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Marmol replaces Wood on AS roster-Does Hurdle hate the Mets?

batmagadanleadoff Jul 14 2008 10:16 AM

Cub set up reliever Carlos Marmol replaces teammate Kerry Wood on the AS roster. Marmol is the seventh Cub and fifth reliever to be named to the NL AS squad this year. It seems to me that Johan Santana was the most qualified pitcher to replace Wood, especially since Cole Hamels pitched yesterday and thus, would not be available to play this Tuesday. I'm wondering if there's some bad blood between Clint Hurdle and the Mets. Reyes was also snubbed this year and is a deserving AS. David Wright's initial snubbing may have been the most egregious of all.

TheOldMole Jul 14 2008 10:40 AM

He was passed over for Met mgr at one point, wasn't he?

AG/DC Jul 14 2008 10:41 AM

They beat the pants off his team this weekend, didn't they?

Frayed Knot Jul 14 2008 11:46 AM

Probably could have gone without a 7th Cub but I guess they'd just make the argument that he was only replacing a teammate anyway. The other thing about Marmol is June + July = 16.1 IP, 17 ER, 14 H, 13 BBs, 4 HRs He's got like the reverse-Heilman splits.

Gwreck Jul 14 2008 11:50 AM

Hurdle's passing over of Wright wasn't necessarily his fault: Fans voted Larry in. Players voted Aramis Ramirez in. He put Wright on the "Final man" ballot and then gave him the first spot vacated by injury. I don't think he should feel snubbed by Hurdle. Also, what makes you think Hamels is unavailable to throw an inning? Wouldn't Tuesday be a throw day after pitching on Sunday?

AG/DC Jul 14 2008 12:02 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 14 2008 12:11 PM

You know, when Joel Youngblood made the All-Star Team in 1981, he couldn't play because he was hurt. In fact, it was pretty clear that he was out long-term when he was selected. He was replaced, but nobody felt an obligation to do it with Dave Kingman or Mookie Wilson or Hubie Brooks or Neil Allen. 'Blood showed up and tipped his cap and, other than that, my 14-year-old self had to accept that our lone All star bert was stillborn.

attgig Jul 14 2008 12:08 PM

would've thought johan would've been a good pick for replacement... I also think it would've been awesome to put in sabathia or harden

soupcan Jul 14 2008 12:22 PM

AG/DC wrote: You know, when Joel Youngblood made the All-Star Team in 1981, he couldn't play because he was hurt. In fact, it was pretty clear that he was out long-term when he was selected. He was replaced, but nobody felt an obligation to do it with Dave Kingman or Mookie Wilson or Hubie Brooks or Neil Allen. 'Blood showed up and tipped his cap and, other than that, my 14-year-old self had to accept that our lone All star bert was stillborn. You've reminded me of Mazz in '79 at the Kingdome. Honerun and 2 rbi (bases loaded walk off Guidry if I recall correctly). Wuz robbed of the MVP.

G-Fafif Jul 14 2008 12:23 PM

AG/DC wrote: You know, when Joel Youngblood made the All-Star Team in 1981, he couldn't play because he was hurt. In fact, it was pretty clear that he was out long-term when he was selected. He was replaced, but nobody felt an obligation to do it with Dave Kingman or Mookie Wilson or Hubie Brooks or Neil Allen. 'Blood showed up and tipped his cap and, other than that, my 14-year-old self had to accept that our lone All star bert was stillborn. Youngblood [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ALS/ALS198108090.shtml]batted and popped up foul[/url].

AG/DC Jul 14 2008 12:39 PM

Foot in mouth. My apologetics. As I read that I saw the popup before me. Who am I thinking of that was hurt as the lone rep during the Torre era?

Benjamin Grimm Jul 14 2008 12:46 PM

Stearns, maybe? 1978 was the only "Torre" year in which no Met got into the All-Star Game. http://ultimatemets.com/allstar.php

Valadius Jul 14 2008 12:48 PM

Pat Zachry, 1978.

G-Fafif Jul 14 2008 12:54 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jul 14 2008 01:51 PM

Torre-Bamberger-Howard Era Met All-Star History 1977 John Stearns, inserted to catch ninth 1978 Pat Zachry, does not pitch (isn't injured until later in July) 1979 Lee Mazzilli, pinch-hits in eighth (homers; plays CF, walks with bases loaded in ninth) John Stearns, DNP (chosen as replacement for injured reserve C Ted Simmons) 1980 John Stearns, inserted to catch in fourth (bats in fifth and grounds out as 14th consecutive N.L. out to start game before N.L. rallies; pinch-hit for by Pete Rose in sixth) 1981 Joel Youngblood, inserted to pinch-hit in second (fouls out) 1982 Stearns, inserted to catch ninth 1983 Orosco, inserted to pitch with two outs in seventh; strikes out Ben Oglivie; pinch-hit for by Johnny Bench

soupcan Jul 14 2008 12:55 PM

Valadius wrote: Pat Zachry, 1978. Not allowed to answer that question if you weren't alive at the time.

G-Fafif Jul 14 2008 01:14 PM

Stengel Era Met All-Star History 1962 (Game 1) Ashburn, DNP 1962 (Game 2) Ashburn, inserted as PH in seventh, singles 1963 Snider, inserted as PH in eighth, strikes out; stays in in LF 1964 Hunt, starts at 2B, bats eighth, goes 1-for-3 (single in third), pinch-hit for by Hank Aaron in ninth (Aaron K's before Callison hits game-winning homer) 1965 Kranepool, DNP

G-Fafif Jul 14 2008 01:19 PM Westrum Era Met All-Star History Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 14 2008 01:39 PM

Westrum Era Met All-Star History 1966 Hunt, inserted at 2B in sixth; grounds out in seventh; sacrifices Tim McCarver to second in tenth to set up winning run 1967 Seaver, inserted to pitch 15th, allows only a walk to Carl Yastrzemski, records save for Don Drysdale

batmagadanleadoff Jul 14 2008 01:25 PM

Gwreck wrote: Also, what makes you think Hamels is unavailable to throw an inning? Wouldn't Tuesday be a throw day after pitching on Sunday? Maybe he could. But off the top of my head, I can't recall a pitcher starting on the Sunday before the AS game and then pitching in the AS game two days later.

G-Fafif Jul 14 2008 01:39 PM

Hodges Era Met All-Star History 1968 Grote, starts at C; bats seventh; goes 0-for-2, replaced by Tom Haller in sixth Seaver, inserted to pitch in seventh; throws two scoreless innings Koosman, inserted to pitch with two outs in ninth; strikes out Carl Yastrzemski to end game; records save 1969 Jones, starts in LF; bats sixth; goes 2-for-4; scores two runs; replaced by Pete Rose in eighth Koosman, inserted to pitch in seventh; allows leadoff double to Rico Petrocelli then retires next five; replaced by Larry Dierker with two out in eighth Seaver, DNP 1970 Seaver, starting pitcher; throws three innings; allows one hit; strikes out four; pinch-hit for in third by Rusty Staub Harrelson, inserted at SS in seventh; goes 2-for-3 (two singles); scores first N.L. run 1971 Harrelson, starts at SS; goes 0-for-2; replaced by Don Kessinger in sixth Seaver, DNP

G-Fafif Jul 14 2008 01:49 PM Edited 3 time(s), most recently on Jul 14 2008 01:58 PM

Berra-Frazier Era Met All-Star History 1972 Mays, starts in CF; bats second; goes 0-for-2; replaced by Cesar Cedeno in sixth McGraw, inserted in ninth; allows only Joe Rudi double in two scoreless innings; records save 1973 Mays, inserted as PH in eighth for Willie Stargell; strikes out Seaver, inserted to pitch in eighth; throws scoreless inning; allows only walk to Cookie Rojas; replaced by Jim Brewer 1974 Matlack, inserted to pitch in sixth; throws scoreless inning, allowing single to George Hendrick and walk to Thurman Munson; replaced by Lynn McGlothlen in seventh Grote, inserted in ninth to catch 1975 Seaver, inserted in sixth to pitch; throws one inning; gives up three-run homer to Carl Yastrzemski; replaced by Jon Matlack Matlack, inserted in seventh to pitch; throws two scoreless innings; allows hits to Claudell Washington and George Hendrick; pinch-hit for by Al Oliver who starts winning rally with double; records win; awarded co-MVP with Bill Madlock 1976 Kingman, starts in RF; bats seventh; goes 0-for-2 with K; replaced by starting CF George Foster in right when Cesar Cedeno inserted in CF Seaver, inserted to pitch in fourth; throws two innings; allows home run to Fred Lynn in fourth; allows single to Rusty Staub in fifth but erases him on DP; replaced by John Montefusco in sixth

AG/DC Jul 14 2008 01:55 PM

High anticipation here for the Frazier era.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 14 2008 01:56 PM

G-Fafif wrote: Berra Era Met All-Star History 1975 Seaver, inserted in sixth to pitch; throws one inning; gives up three-run homer to Carl Yastrzemski; replaced by Jon Matlack Matlack, inserted in seventh to pitch; throws two scoreless innings; allows hits to Claudell Washington and George Hendrick; pinch-hit for by Al Oliver who starts winning rally with double; records win Hey! What are you, slipping or something??!!?? What about Matlack's MVP? What about that? Huh?

G-Fafif Jul 14 2008 01:57 PM

AG/DC wrote: High anticipation here for the Frazier era. Frazier era folded into Berra-Frazier era above; Torre era repurposed as Torre-Bamberger-Howard era.

G-Fafif Jul 14 2008 01:59 PM

batmagadanleadoff wrote: ="G-Fafif"]Berra Era Met All-Star History 1975 Seaver, inserted in sixth to pitch; throws one inning; gives up three-run homer to Carl Yastrzemski; replaced by Jon Matlack Matlack, inserted in seventh to pitch; throws two scoreless innings; allows hits to Claudell Washington and George Hendrick; pinch-hit for by Al Oliver who starts winning rally with double; records win Hey! What are you, slipping or something??!!?? What about Matlack's MVP? What about that? Huh? Excellent point, dreadful omission, entry repaired.

Frayed Knot Jul 14 2008 02:23 PM

Too lazy to look it up, but it's my recollection that Seaver never started an ASG - or at least never as a Met

Benjamin Grimm Jul 14 2008 02:30 PM

He started in 1970. http://ultimatemets.com/profile.php?PlayerCode=0150

Zvon Jul 14 2008 02:44 PM

Excellent info here that brings back memories that I can't say for sure I even had.