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Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah: Camp Day IGT 7/24

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 24 2008 09:34 AM

rained all night but stopped this morning. Good guys according to the Snooze:

Reyes - SS
Evans - LF
Wright - 3B
Delgado - 1B
Beltran - CF
Tatis - RF
Easley - 2B
Castro - C
Perez - P

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 24 2008 09:36 AM

This will be the second time for Evans in the 2-hole. He hit there on the Sunday before the All-Star break against Colorado and went 2 for 3.

AG/DC
Jul 24 2008 09:38 AM

first career homer for Evans coming today. I feel it in my core.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 24 2008 09:42 AM

Rollins
Utley
Burrell
Howard
Werth
Victorino
Feliz
Coste
Moyer

Gwreck
Jul 24 2008 09:45 AM

Duplicate post.

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 24 2008 09:59 AM

Did Schneider lose his starting status? Castro's in the starting lineup for the third time in the last four games. I hope this is a trend.

Gwreck
Jul 24 2008 10:03 AM

Today's start is obvious (day game after night, lefty pitcher). Tuesday's start, against a righty, perhaps not.

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 24 2008 10:14 AM
Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jul 24 2008 10:20 AM

Gwreck wrote:
Today's start is obvious (day game after night, lefty pitcher). Tuesday's start, against a righty, perhaps not.


You're absolutely right. But still, Castro started as many of the Mets last four games as was possible, assuming that yesterday's starter would be rested today.

HahnSolo
Jul 24 2008 10:16 AM

ESPN Gametracker has Bruntlett at shortstop. What happened to Rollins?

Frayed Knot
Jul 24 2008 10:16 AM

Bruntlett led off the game, not Rollins -- not sure what the deal is there.

Bruntlett - GO
Utley - K
Burrell - 1B
Howard - K

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 24 2008 10:21 AM

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
="Gwreck"]Today's start is obvious (day game after night, lefty pitcher). Tuesday's start, against a righty, perhaps not.


You're absolutely right. But still, Castro started as many of the Mets last four games as was possible, assuming that yesterday's starter would be rested today.


Gwreck: I take back my observation. Once Castro started the two games previous to yesterday's game, it was a given that as of today, he would've started three of the last four. So today's start doesn't add anything that we couldn't have assumed after Castro's two consecutive starts earlier this week.

HahnSolo
Jul 24 2008 10:24 AM

3 up, 3 down for the Mets.

AG/DC
Jul 24 2008 10:30 AM

Hard to deal with Beltran not hitting in the first.

If not cleanup, why not bat him segundo?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 24 2008 10:32 AM

The Mets reserve the No. 2 slot for guys who can't hit.

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 24 2008 10:33 AM

Did anyone notice how Delgado has caught up to Beltran statistically and how their numbers are now virtually identical (excluding stolen bases, obviously)?

duan
Jul 24 2008 10:35 AM

and the fact that Beltran's a pretty damn good centre fielder.

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 24 2008 10:39 AM

duan wrote:
and the fact that Beltran's a pretty damn good centre fielder.


Yeah. That too. I was going for offense, though.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 24 2008 10:40 AM

I suppose we could argue Beltran's been hitting poorly enough recently to qualify for the 2 hole. And he bunts!

duan
Jul 24 2008 10:42 AM

sure, but if your centre-fielder's hitting as well as your 1st baseman you've got a great asset in the outfield or a liability at 1st!

lets be thankful that it's the former rather then the latter at the mo'.

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 24 2008 10:42 AM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I suppose we could argue Beltran's been hitting poorly enough recently to qualify for the 2 hole. And he bunts!


Congratulations. With that kind of thinking, you now qualify for the next Mets managerial opening.

duan
Jul 24 2008 10:50 AM

it's kinda fun watching this from the pitchers perspective on mlb's gameday. and hoping that he hits pat burrell

duan
Jul 24 2008 10:54 AM

they seem kinda lifeless though - like that on the tv too?

AG/DC
Jul 24 2008 10:57 AM

You ever watch from the point of view of the guy buried underneath the umpire?

soupcan
Jul 24 2008 10:59 AM

Have I not noticed this before or is the Violent Femmes discography a new addition to the Shea in-game library this year?

Just now - 'Blister In The Sun', after a homerun (noticed mostly after Delgado shots) 'Gone Daddy Gone'.

duan
Jul 24 2008 11:00 AM

what I do like is that they've got Moyer up to 50 or so pitches through 3. he rarely gets more then a pitch or 3 past 100 these days.
(only one start at 110+ this year)

duan
Jul 24 2008 11:02 AM

if i was moyer i'd STILL think about pitching around wright to get to delgado.

duan
Jul 24 2008 11:03 AM

charlie manuel and jamie moyer should listen to me.

Gwreck
Jul 24 2008 11:04 AM

Blister in the Sun has been around for years.

Gone Daddy Gone is new, I think, for this year's Delgado homers.

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 24 2008 11:04 AM

Delgado shift-robbed of a line-drive that ordinarily would've gotten through to Rf to drive in a run.

duan
Jul 24 2008 11:06 AM

we could really use a lefty mashing caddy for Delgado though. Is that what Casey Blake would be?

duan
Jul 24 2008 11:08 AM

yeah but you can hardly call it shift robbed when they virtually always field that way and he virtually always hits into it (against lefties like).
ops of .600 vs lefties.

AG/DC
Jul 24 2008 11:11 AM

soupcan wrote:
Have I not noticed this before or is the Violent Femmes discography a new addition to the Shea in-game library this year?

Just now - 'Blister In The Sun', after a homerun (noticed mostly after Delgado shots) 'Gone Daddy Gone'.


They've been doing that for about two seasons, I think. That "Gone Daddy Gone" is a cover, though.

Gwreck
Jul 24 2008 11:19 AM

Perez so far:

4 IP, 3 H, 7 Ks, 0 BB.

AG/DC
Jul 24 2008 11:20 AM

Sign him now.

AG/DC
Jul 24 2008 11:22 AM

Nine Ks through five. Sid-esque.

HahnSolo
Jul 24 2008 11:22 AM

5 IP, 3 H, 9 K, 0 BB

metsguyinmichigan
Jul 24 2008 11:23 AM

I like Castro. In the four games I've seen in person this season, he's hit homers in two of them. Maybe I'm actually a good luck charm -- but only for back-up catchers.

I thin Ollie can outlast Moyer, and we can feast on the Phillie bullpen.

This game is huge!

HahnSolo
Jul 24 2008 11:29 AM

They're really moving things along. Top 6 already. They must know the campers have to get home.

HahnSolo
Jul 24 2008 11:30 AM

Great. Rollins out of the lineup and Bruntlett has reached twice.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 24 2008 11:34 AM

Perez vs. Howard with two out and a runner on third.

Odds favor a strikeout, I'd say.

HahnSolo
Jul 24 2008 11:35 AM

Big Whiff for Ollie. Get this guy another run, please!

Gwreck
Jul 24 2008 11:36 AM

Oliver: 6 IP, 4 H, 0 BB, 10 K, 0 ER. 78 pitches.

P.S. I'd love to get some more runs for the Mets however...

batmagadanleadoff
Jul 24 2008 11:37 AM

metsguyinmichigan wrote:
Maybe I'm actually a good luck charm -- but only for back-up catchers!


Talent-wise, Castro's no back-up catcher. Maybe he's been held back by his health or some unfortunate pigeonholing. I'm happy that he's getting more playing time.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 24 2008 11:38 AM

Holy crap Ollie's on fire some yeah

And fix the damn evilseaver!

HahnSolo
Jul 24 2008 11:40 AM

Mets have had just 4 guys reach base through six. Luckily three of them were back to back to back in the third.

metsguyinmichigan
Jul 24 2008 11:41 AM

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Perez vs. Howard with two out and a runner on third.

Odds favor a strikeout, I'd say.


Great call! On the nose.

metsguyinmichigan
Jul 24 2008 11:41 AM

Gwreck wrote:
Oliver: 6 IP, 4 H, 0 BB, 10 K, 0 ER. 78 pitches.

P.S. I'd love to get some more runs for the Mets however...


HAIL SEAVER!

HahnSolo
Jul 24 2008 11:42 AM

Late innings v. the Phillies the last two seasons have not been Good Times. Let's change that today.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 24 2008 11:43 AM

And there's your tying run

HahnSolo
Jul 24 2008 11:45 AM

HahnSolo wrote:
Late innings v. the Phillies the last two seasons have not been Good Times. Let's change that today.


I should really keep my thoughts to myself.

metsguyinmichigan
Jul 24 2008 11:45 AM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
And there's your tying run


Dammit. Sole possession of first place is there for the taking and they can't do more than a single run? C'mon offense! Bring it on!

TransMonk
Jul 24 2008 11:49 AM

I'm slowly learning to hate Jason Werth.

He's part of that Phillies Sideburn Clan.

metsguyinmichigan
Jul 24 2008 11:52 AM

I'm slowly learning to like Tatis. The guy's a gamer!

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 24 2008 11:52 AM

Question:

If Perez comes to the plate this inning with runners on and the score still tied, do you hit for him?

(It would either be bases loaded, one out, or two on and two out.)

HahnSolo
Jul 24 2008 11:52 AM

TransMonk wrote:
I'm slowly learning to hate Jason Werth.

He's part of that Phillies Sideburn Clan.


That godawful facial hair always gets the Mets. Him, Scott Spiezio 2006.

soupcan
Jul 24 2008 11:53 AM

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Question:

If Perez comes to the plate this inning with runners on and the score still tied, do you hit for him?

(It would either be bases loaded, one out, or two on and two out.)


Yes.

metsguyinmichigan
Jul 24 2008 11:54 AM

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Question:

If Perez comes to the plate this inning with runners on and the score still tied, do you hit for him?

(It would either be bases loaded, one out, or two on and two out.)


Bottom seven -- you might have to. Tough call. Then again, who is on the bench? Anderson?

Vince Coleman Firecracker
Jul 24 2008 11:55 AM

Okay, Ollie'll get this inning, right?

Frayed Knot
Jul 24 2008 11:56 AM

Moot point as Castro flies out
(or 'Mute' point as some used to say on another forum in a different time and space)


Leading off next inning it's a no-brainer to PH.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 24 2008 11:57 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 24 2008 11:57 AM

My question becomes moot:

- D. Easley popped out to shallow right
- R. Castro lined out to right



Perez will pitch the 8th and is due to lead off in the bottom of the inning.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 24 2008 11:57 AM

Taguchi PHing for Moyer grounds out on 1 pitch: 2 problems solved.

duan
Jul 24 2008 11:58 AM

what annoys me though ... is the SIX pitch seventh inning which featured (at least according to gameday) a first pitch pop out, a second pitch pop out and two bunt attempts by Delgado.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 24 2008 11:59 AM

I see Endy's in the game.

Who's their best choice to lead off the 8th?

There's Anderson, A. Reyes, and Schneider and Cancel.

Am I forgetting anyone?

TransMonk
Jul 24 2008 11:59 AM

Bruntlett, you're killing me.

I would have rather faced the MVP.

Vince Coleman Firecracker
Jul 24 2008 12:00 PM

Good night, sweet prince Utley. Oliver Perez is your father.

seawolf17
Jul 24 2008 12:01 PM

How many times you think they walk guys to get to Ryan Howard?

TransMonk
Jul 24 2008 12:01 PM

Utley: 0-for this series, no?

Vince Coleman Firecracker
Jul 24 2008 12:02 PM

Time to make Howard look like a minor leaguer. Get 'em, Ollie.

Frayed Knot
Jul 24 2008 12:02 PM

IW to Burrell in order to face Howard.
Correct move w/2 outs - last time was only 1.

Howard's day so far: K - K - K

Gwreck
Jul 24 2008 12:04 PM

Full count to Howard.

TransMonk
Jul 24 2008 12:05 PM

This isn't good.

seawolf17
Jul 24 2008 12:05 PM

Nice run, Ollie.

No pressure, Aaron Heilman.

Gwreck
Jul 24 2008 12:05 PM

Plunks him to load the bases.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 24 2008 12:05 PM

Ugh! Hit by pitch! Werth coming up to bat!

Vince Coleman Firecracker
Jul 24 2008 12:06 PM

Shit. Big Baby Useless gets hit by the pitch. I feel less confident vs Werth than Howard.

Frayed Knot
Jul 24 2008 12:06 PM

Dang!
He had him 0-2, then fell to 3-2, then hit him ... and that'll end his day

Heilman in to face the righty Werth

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 24 2008 12:06 PM

Fasten your seatbelts!

seawolf17
Jul 24 2008 12:09 PM

I love you, Aaron Heilman. I take back all those nasty things I said about you in April. You know me, baby. I always come back.

Vince Coleman Firecracker
Jul 24 2008 12:09 PM

Got him!

TransMonk
Jul 24 2008 12:09 PM

Big time! I likey.

Frayed Knot
Jul 24 2008 12:10 PM

Benjamin Grimm wrote:

Who's their best choice to lead off the 8th?

There's Anderson, A. Reyes, and Schneider and Cancel.


AReyes might be your best OBP guy out of that crew
Switch-hits too so CManuel can't mix & match.


Suxx for Ollie that he can't get the win. Maybe Heilman "vultures" one up here.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 24 2008 12:10 PM

]J. Werth flied out to deep center


For those watching on TV, was this at all scary, or did Beltran have it all the way?

seawolf17
Jul 24 2008 12:11 PM

Beltran had it all the way. Maybe four or five steps back.

duan
Jul 24 2008 12:11 PM

whew. got to see that, Werth got a decent bit of it.

Vince Coleman Firecracker
Jul 24 2008 12:11 PM

Win this in regulation, guys.

TransMonk
Jul 24 2008 12:12 PM

Cancel...c'mon O.

duan
Jul 24 2008 12:13 PM

if we score in this inning before 2 outs does he not get a win?

Vince Coleman Firecracker
Jul 24 2008 12:13 PM

Cancel has the worst Gamecast photo I've ever seen.

TransMonk
Jul 24 2008 12:13 PM

Yes! Let's do this.

Vince Coleman Firecracker
Jul 24 2008 12:14 PM

Woohoo! Pinch runner?

Frayed Knot
Jul 24 2008 12:14 PM

Robinson Cancel-s any immediate send-down possibility with a leadoff single.

Centerfield
Jul 24 2008 12:15 PM

Vince Coleman Firecracker wrote:
Cancel has the worst Gamecast photo I've ever seen.


Yup. His neck like spills outside the boundaries.

Frayed Knot
Jul 24 2008 12:15 PM

Vince Coleman Firecracker wrote:
Woohoo! Pinch runner?


Nah.
Cancel is faster than his bulk suggests.

Vince Coleman Firecracker
Jul 24 2008 12:16 PM
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Hate hate hate having Reyes sacrifice there.

Centerfield
Jul 24 2008 12:16 PM

Fast enough to warrant a sacrifice bunt from the guy who hit the 3 run jack last night?

HahnSolo
Jul 24 2008 12:17 PM

Up to David. God I hate the sacrifice there.

TransMonk
Jul 24 2008 12:18 PM

Centerfield wrote:
Fast enough to warrant a sacrifice bunt from the guy who hit the 3 run jack last night?


No. Up to David.

Gwreck
Jul 24 2008 12:18 PM

Four outside to David sets up the Romero-Delgado matchup.

TransMonk
Jul 24 2008 12:18 PM

Or Carlos.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 24 2008 12:18 PM

IBB to Wright.

They WANT to face Delgado!

Frayed Knot
Jul 24 2008 12:19 PM

Centerfield wrote:
Fast enough to warrant a sacrifice bunt from the guy who hit the 3 run jack last night?


Of course not.

Vince Coleman Firecracker
Jul 24 2008 12:20 PM

Do it, Hootie.

Centerfield
Jul 24 2008 12:20 PM

If we lose, I dub this the BiFL game.

duan
Jul 24 2008 12:22 PM

of course they want to 600 ops vs lefties!!

metsguyinmichigan
Jul 24 2008 12:22 PM

Centerfield wrote:
If we lose, I dub this the BiFL game.


BiFL?

Gwreck
Jul 24 2008 12:22 PM

Happiness is seeing "In play, runs(s)" appear in your gamecast.

Frayed Knot
Jul 24 2008 12:23 PM

Phils forgot to sub Sandy Amoros in prior to that AB as Carlos pulls a Yogi.

seawolf17
Jul 24 2008 12:23 PM

Bunting is for losers.

I like this Delgado kid; gonna be a good player someday.

metsguyinmichigan
Jul 24 2008 12:23 PM

I call it the DELGADO GAME!!!!

AG/DC
Jul 24 2008 12:23 PM

I was tuned out and working on a project and I tuned back in just in time for "In play, runs(s)."

Robinson Cancel, the secretest of weapons.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 24 2008 12:24 PM

Wha'ppen?

Vince Coleman Firecracker
Jul 24 2008 12:24 PM

My Gamecast is frozen.

TransMonk
Jul 24 2008 12:24 PM

I lik baseball.

duan
Jul 24 2008 12:24 PM

the best is, it's 2 runs, not one because they walked Wright.

seawolf17
Jul 24 2008 12:24 PM

Oh, and Carlos? I'm sorry for all those things I said about you in April, about how you were old and washed up, and how I wanted to trade you for a dead squirrel.

You know me. I always come back, baby.

Centerfield
Jul 24 2008 12:24 PM

Mine too. Or Romero is taking a long time between pitches.

Gwreck
Jul 24 2008 12:24 PM

Delgado double to left, scores 2!

Delgado thrown out at third (throw went home initially) for third out.

metsguyinmichigan
Jul 24 2008 12:24 PM

C'mon, Billy. Bring it!!!!

seawolf17
Jul 24 2008 12:25 PM

Delgado doubled down the left-field line, scoring two, then got thrown out trying to stretch it into a triple.

AG/DC
Jul 24 2008 12:25 PM

All righties here for Waggoner.

apmorris
Jul 24 2008 12:26 PM

sweet!


hey guys

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 24 2008 12:26 PM

Was he stretching to a triple, or trying to advance on the throw?

Either way, he shouldn't have made the third out at third, but because of his clutch double, I'll forgive him.

Centerfield
Jul 24 2008 12:27 PM

Getting Victorino was a big out.

Frayed Knot
Jul 24 2008 12:27 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Wha'ppen?


Delgado sliced a nice little double right down the left field line (hence the Sandy Amaros reference)

Vince Coleman Firecracker
Jul 24 2008 12:27 PM

Now Gamecast is going way too fast.

I like the results, though.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 24 2008 12:28 PM

Is Victorino out already? I still see Delgado and Romero smiling at me.

AG/DC
Jul 24 2008 12:28 PM

These are all big outs. The out that we just didn't get? Big.

I nominate R. Heinous Reyes for defensive duty in left.

seawolf17
Jul 24 2008 12:28 PM

Suck it, Jimmy Rollins. Suck it long, suck it hard. Hope you enjoy second place.

Vince Coleman Firecracker
Jul 24 2008 12:28 PM

@ outs, go get em, Billy Baroo!

metsguyinmichigan
Jul 24 2008 12:29 PM

ROLLINS!!!

Take 'em, Billy.

AG/DC
Jul 24 2008 12:29 PM

Bam!

TransMonk
Jul 24 2008 12:29 PM

All alone in first place...and by our largest margin this season IIRC.

Let's do it again tomorrow.

Centerfield
Jul 24 2008 12:29 PM

This game has been deposited squarely into the books.

Vince Coleman Firecracker
Jul 24 2008 12:29 PM

I guess they won? Gamecast gets today's LVP.

Frayed Knot
Jul 24 2008 12:29 PM

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Was he stretching to a triple, or trying to advance on the throw?

Either way, he shouldn't have made the third out at third, but because of his clutch double, I'll forgive him.


On the throw.
Thing is, on a play like that you sometimes WANT them to cut it off and nail you since that will assure the 2nd run scoring.

Not sure how close it would have been without that but that case is a semi-forgivable 3rd out at 3rd

holychicken
Jul 24 2008 12:30 PM

It said he doubled. . . but was out at second. . .did he overrun the bag and try to come back?

apmorris
Jul 24 2008 12:30 PM

Yay!

Valadius
Jul 24 2008 12:30 PM

Suck it Phillies.

Suck it hard.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 24 2008 12:30 PM

Oh we win.

metsguyinmichigan
Jul 24 2008 12:30 PM

Awesome!!!

I was having a really crappy day today.

But now, it's so much better!

apmorris
Jul 24 2008 12:31 PM

Vince Coleman Firecracker wrote:
I guess they won? Gamecast gets today's LVP.


I imagine traffic was pretty high today

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 24 2008 12:31 PM

Awful lotta gay porn dialogue on this page.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 24 2008 12:32 PM

If Steve Rogers starts a magic number countdown thread today, I say we all strangle him.

Frayed Knot
Jul 24 2008 12:33 PM

holychicken wrote:
It said he doubled. . . but was out at second. . .did he overrun the bag and try to come back?


No, the out was at 3rd.
Double to LF, Burrell hits cutoff, cutoff throws home (too late), catcher throws back to 3rd for 3rd out.

metirish
Jul 24 2008 12:33 PM

Can't we just strangle him anyway?


kidding Stevo.

metsguyinmichigan
Jul 24 2008 12:39 PM

Somewhere, Jayson Stark is weeping.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 24 2008 12:40 PM

metsguyinmichigan wrote:
Somewhere, Jayson Stark is weeping.


Awwww, now I feel bad!

mario25
Jul 24 2008 12:40 PM

FIRST PLACE METS....SOUNDS GREAT...let me go on record to say I was wrong about DELGADO earlier this year...he is playing great right now!

metsguyinmichigan
Jul 24 2008 12:51 PM

mario25 wrote:
FIRST PLACE METS....SOUNDS GREAT...let me go on record to say I was wrong about DELGADO earlier this year...he is playing great right now!


Me, too. Apologies all around -- and I'm happy to offer it!

AG/DC
Jul 24 2008 12:58 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 24 2008 01:39 PM

Not so fast. On your knees, both of you. I want to see some groveling.

Centerfield
Jul 24 2008 01:02 PM

Like he said, lots of gay porn today.

themetfairy
Jul 24 2008 01:02 PM

Mets Fast Forward won't have to skip ahead much in this one - running time of today's game was 2:18. Very quick by today's standards.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 24 2008 01:06 PM

The Phillies must have been very eager to get out of first place.

AG/DC
Jul 24 2008 01:09 PM

As much as tack-on runs, I like when an IGT has tack-on pages after a win.

G-Fafif
Jul 24 2008 01:33 PM

Maybe not as epic as breaking the MGIM streak, but I do believe bmfc1 was in attendance today, up from our nation's capital for the final time, sons and father in two, three generations of fc's (as it were) in their last game at Shea. And what a game they chose!

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 24 2008 01:46 PM

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
The Phillies must have been very eager to get out of first place.


No shit. If we don't manage to give away a near-certain victory in the opener here, we'd really be dancing on their graves today.

As it is, 9 outta 13 for the good guys. This is really starting to resemble last year in reverse.

G-Fafif
Jul 24 2008 01:48 PM

Billy after the game on the potential irony of Jimmy Rollins standing in the way of the Mets.

"He's not Barry Bonds. He's Jimmy Rollins."

The assembled multitudes around his locker gave out and "oooh..." Wagner didn't flinch.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 24 2008 01:52 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:

No shit. If we don't manage to give away a near-certain victory in the opener here, we'd really be dancing on their graves today.


I know. I'm trying not to dwell on that. If not for one miserable inning, the Mets would have a three-game lead.

G-Fafif
Jul 24 2008 02:02 PM

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]
No shit. If we don't manage to give away a near-certain victory in the opener here, we'd really be dancing on their graves today.


I know. I'm trying not to dwell on that. If not for one miserable inning, the Mets would have a three-game lead.


OR...the Phillies regroup after playing dead Tuesday night, sweep the next two and have all the momentum.

You never know how these things are going to go. Two in a row after what happened is the reality. And it's quite pleasant.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 24 2008 02:08 PM

Exactly. Baseball is full of might-have-beens. As things stand right now, more of them have gone in our favor this year than haven't.

holychicken
Jul 24 2008 02:15 PM

Since the win today I have been going back and forth between the "damn it! We could have been 3 games up!" and the "WOO HOO! After that first game I figured we would be lucky to finish this series only one game back!"

Valadius
Jul 24 2008 02:21 PM

I'll take it. Now hopefully the Marlins will pass the Phillies and the Phillies will keep collapsing.

And is it just me, or is the Rollins = Jeter media comparison similarity score going way, WAY up?

metsguyinmichigan
Jul 24 2008 02:31 PM

Valadius wrote:
I'll take it. Now hopefully the Marlins will pass the Phillies and the Phillies will keep collapsing.

And is it just me, or is the Rollins = Jeter media comparison similarity score going way, WAY up?


Does Rollins have an Edge ad yet?

holychicken
Jul 24 2008 02:35 PM

metsguyinmichigan wrote:


Does Rollins have an Edge ad yet?

Nope. But he did just contract herpes.

bmfc1
Jul 24 2008 03:14 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 24 2008 03:53 PM

As G-Fafif was nice enough to mention, I was at Shea today w/my father and two sons. I paid way too much to sit in good seats as it was probably our last time at Shea but we got every pennies worth. As I looked around, I thought about going to Shea with my friends in '69 (as a parent, I can't imagine letting an 11 year old go with his friends and no parents to a game, but times were different); about paying ushers to get into better seats; about my old friend Seth Sevin who fell down the stairs in the Upper Deck and lost some teeth (we were about 13); about being at Shea for Dwight Gooden's one hitter against the Cubs; about being there when Gooden set the rookie K record; about our year with season tickets in '87 and the guy two seats over who brought a different date each time and gave each one a plastic drink tumbler.

We stopped by the Diamond Club to see the trophies and Mets HOF'ers, and then a real life star walked by, Ron Darling. Our seats were as comfortable as Shea seats can be but Shea looked beautiful to us. The game was, as you know, fantastic. When Bruntlett was announced as a late replacement for Rollins, I said to my son that he would probably get three hits. Ding! There were a lot of Phillies fans near us on the 3B side but they behaved as well as they can, given their rooting interest.

The atmosphere was like a playoff game. I got a T-shirt in the T-shirt launch (it was thrown in our direction). The operative view has to be that our guys are resilient, and, unlike the '07 team, can "take a punch", rather than "if Wagner was healthy, they would have swept."

As we left, I looked around at the maze of ramps, listened to the excited fans ("We're number 1!" "Yankees suck!" "Phillies suck!"), I hugged the boys and said "thanks" to Shea, one last time.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 24 2008 03:34 PM

sniff

something in my eye

/wipes

Rockin' Doc
Jul 24 2008 04:11 PM

It's great to return home from work read through such an enjoyable IGT.

Glad the three generations of fc's had a great time. Nice to go out with a win.

soupcan
Jul 24 2008 07:25 PM

holychicken wrote:
Since the win today I have been going back and forth between the "damn it! We could have been 3 games up!" and the "WOO HOO! After that first game I figured we would be lucky to finish this series only one game back!"


2 of 3 is what you want going into any series. That's what they got. Be happy. Balls could've bounced a number of different ways today or last night.

Nice read bmfc, I'm glad you got a win today.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 24 2008 07:26 PM

Just watching the replay now. Romero made two excellent plays there against Reyes and Chavez.

Hate that bunt there just the same.

themetfairy
Jul 24 2008 08:18 PM

bmfc1 - I'm glad that you and the family had such a great day :)

Mendoza Line
Jul 24 2008 08:37 PM

I took the day off from work and found myself in the next to the last row of the mezzanine (just to the 1B side of home plate), getting the mail-slot view of the field.

It's really not a bad view...all you miss are the Diamond Vision replays and some really high pop flies. It's definitely a better view than what I would have gotten from Gameday at the office.

Mr. Met stopped by to visit our section and tossed around a few t-shirts. After some thought, I decided it was probably best to keep my 43-year-old butt in my seat rather than compete with the kiddies for the shirts. Gotta admit it was tempting, though.

My section must have been better behaved than bmfc's - I heard "Phillies Suck" chants, but no "Yankees Suck" chants, and none of the chanters were specific as to what it was that the Phillies sucked. There were a lot of red and white t-shirts in the stands, but the Phillies phans were generally well-behaved, as Phillies phans go.

Hope the kids enjoyed the Shea experience.

I'm now running a three-game winning streak at Shea. Celebrated by walking around Flushing for a couple of hours with a big smile on my face.

About the game -

Given that there wasn't much hitting going on today, I wasn't virulently opposed to bunting in the bottom of the 8th. But if the bunt had to be on, why not let Reyes swing away and bunt Endy and his weak OPS? Sure, there's some risk that Reyes hits into a DP. I'll take that risk, all day, every day if it means that Reyes gets a chance to hit rather than Endy.

Of course, if Evans/Chavez had been at the bottom of the order where they belonged, Endy and his weak OPS wouldn't have been an issue.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 24 2008 08:47 PM

Sometime soon you hope Jerry realizes these sac bunts are all huge favors to the opposition and don;t help his guys too much.

There must have been 5 in this series alone that didn't work as intended.

metirish
Jul 25 2008 09:54 AM

When the Mets are going great like in the '06 season I didn't really care to hear the yankees suck chants that were nearly a nightly occurrence at Shea , I think after a while it was embarrassing in a way . We were so far in front with the division in hand and every now and then during a game I would hear the chant coming from the telly.

But they do suck.