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Back in the Saddle IGT 08/03, Mets @ 'stros

KC Aug 03 2008 08:54 AM

C'mon Ollie, let's strap 'em on and give these somsabitches a good what fer!

KC Aug 03 2008 10:47 AM

Reyes ss Beltran cf Wright 3b Delgado 1b Tatis rf Easley 2b Evans lf Cancel c Perez p Matsui Tejada ss Berkman 1b Lee lf Wiggy 3b Pence rf Erstad cf Quintero c Wolf p

Zvon Aug 03 2008 12:11 PM

Reyes swings at the very first pitch of the game, flies out. Beltran singles and is picked off first. Hope this isn't indicative of how this games going to go.

Nymr83 Aug 03 2008 12:12 PM

i like beltran batting 2nd, he belongs there at least until church is healthy given the other choices.

Zvon Aug 03 2008 12:32 PM

Thats was more pitches than Id like for Perez in the first, but he gets thru it, Matsui the only one to reach (siingle). I still can't believe coming in to this series Kaz had only 2 HRs this season and he hits 2. You see shit like that you have to start looking for snakes in the grass.

Zvon Aug 03 2008 12:34 PM

Hey, they are talking bout my man Zevon again! Do they only bring him up when I'm watching?

Zvon Aug 03 2008 12:36 PM

Wiggy does the 4 base jiggy.

Nymr83 Aug 03 2008 12:42 PM

Cancel bunts for a bassehit to lead off the inning!

Zvon Aug 03 2008 12:49 PM

WTF!!!???? Cancel! WhatRyaDOIN!??

Nymr83 Aug 03 2008 12:49 PM

thrown out at third to end the inning, fucking stupid

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 03 2008 12:49 PM

We got the Willies all over again.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 03 2008 12:49 PM

Cancel cancel's that inning. (Caught stealing third with two outs, J. Reyes on 1st and Wright at bat).

metirish Aug 03 2008 12:50 PM

Cancel going for his first steal of third in ten years....wtf?

Zvon Aug 03 2008 01:03 PM

Wright walks to start the 4th. Delgado follows with a line single to left. It is Tatis....

Zvon Aug 03 2008 01:09 PM

This homeplate ump really likes that low pitch. Well, he has been calling it all game. Really thought Jerry was gonna get tossed there.

AG/DC Aug 03 2008 01:09 PM

Evans down looking. Pitch looked down to me (and to Evans and to Manuel). Gameday disagrees.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 03 2008 01:10 PM

I give up.

Zvon Aug 03 2008 01:11 PM

AG/DC wrote: Evans down looking. Pitch looked down to me (and to Evans and to Manuel). Gameday disagrees. All the low called strikes look just below the knees to me. But the guy has been consistent.

KC Aug 03 2008 01:23 PM

Ollie delivering more like Autry with a geetar than Perry with an ax. Everybody thank Ollie.

Zvon Aug 03 2008 01:24 PM

Two 2 out doubles plate another for the 'Stros. Evans stumbles on a routine fly to left that drops for an RBI single. Erstad scores on a double by Quintero..... I don't like what I'm seeing. We cannot get swept here. Offense better step it up. I'm still stuck on Cancel tryin to steal 3rd. What was he thinking?

Zvon Aug 03 2008 01:28 PM

Reyes and Beltran single with one out in the 5th. Let us unite and assemble.

Nymr83 Aug 03 2008 01:33 PM

leaving the bases loaded for two innings in a row isnt good

Zvon Aug 03 2008 01:33 PM

8 left on the last two innings. You can't leave on any more than that.

Rockin' Doc Aug 03 2008 01:35 PM

Zvon - "I'm still stuck on Cancel tryin to steal 3rd. What was he thinking?" After bunting for a single. He must have suddenly got confused and thought he was Jose Reyes. The Mets manage 3 singles in the 5th inning, but still don't score.

Nymr83 Aug 03 2008 01:36 PM

Zvon wrote: 8 left on the last two innings. You can't leave on any more than that. 6.

Rockin' Doc Aug 03 2008 01:37 PM

I was confused by that one myself, Nymr. I thought 3 per innings was the most that could be left on base.

Zvon Aug 03 2008 01:39 PM

Nymr83 wrote: ="Zvon"]8 left on the last two innings. You can't leave on any more than that. 6. Duh,lol. .....I count home plate as a base? Does that get me off the hook? ;)

Zvon Aug 03 2008 01:56 PM

Evans deeks Lee into trying for two. That time he played the ball off the wall like shit (as opposed to that beautiful play earlier). Both times ends up smelling like a rose. Kunz will pitch the 7th.

Frayed Knot Aug 03 2008 01:57 PM

CAN SOMEBODY ON THS TEAM GET A FUCKING TWO-OUT HIT?!?!!???

metsguyinmichigan Aug 03 2008 01:57 PM

Can't blame Ollie or the pen if they can't put one across in that bandbox!

Frayed Knot Aug 03 2008 02:04 PM

This whole weekend has been a bad baserunning clnic.

metsguyinmichigan Aug 03 2008 02:09 PM

Way to go, Kunz! No Murphy today?

KC Aug 03 2008 02:14 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 03 2008 02:15 PM

They said early in the game that Murphy and Evans are platooning. They didn't say if that was announced or anything, or if they were just saying it because it's that way on day two.

Zvon Aug 03 2008 02:15 PM

They say the Mets have not come back from a 4 run deficit all season. Thats pretty weak. Time to change that lil stat...

Zvon Aug 03 2008 02:22 PM

I'd never turn off a Met game cuz I get to see such a limited amount of games on TV, but if I was one a you guys with SNY this would be the point where I would turn this game off.

Zvon Aug 03 2008 02:23 PM

Actually even if I had SNY I'd never turn a Met game off. I'm just that way. But this game has been tough to watch.

Zvon Aug 03 2008 02:25 PM

I'll go thru the motions and throw up the graphics.

KC Aug 03 2008 02:26 PM

Yeah, it's just pathetic to watch sometimes. Why are there Mets in the dugout looking happy? Sit down and look dejected dammit. Finger-pointing fist fight on the charter later, details in the morning.

Frayed Knot Aug 03 2008 02:34 PM

I just want to see how many more runners we can leave all over the place. There's a contest going to see whether we can strand as many runners as the LA-Angel make errors for the day. I think we've put 13 on base so far with zippo scoring - it's quite an accomplishment really.

Zvon Aug 03 2008 02:35 PM

KC wrote: Yeah, it's just pathetic to watch sometimes. Why are there Mets in the dugout looking happy? Sit down and look dejected dammit. Finger-pointing fist fight on the charter later, details in the morning. lol. I was just thinking the same thing. Camera shows J.Reyes laughing after the groundout and then Wright just on the mound with a shit eatting grin during the pitching change and I'm thinking, "Hey, don't be having fun and smilin'. There's no smiling in losing baseball...".

Zvon Aug 03 2008 02:40 PM

We need a comeback to put some wind back in our sails.

KC Aug 03 2008 02:43 PM

They need a collective enema. Er, I mean let's go mets!!!

metsguyinmichigan Aug 03 2008 02:48 PM

This is the part of the order that can do it! I like this Murphy kid.

AG/DC Aug 03 2008 02:50 PM

How about Reyes going after ball four? Have the Mets ever been shut out by this many pitchers in one game?

Zvon Aug 03 2008 02:54 PM

Can't totally lay this on Cancel, cuz 11 LOB is everybodys fault. Still, to me, that was the turning point (if there ever was a point) and he gets to be the goat.

G-Fafif Aug 03 2008 04:06 PM

Anybody else catch the MBTN shoutout from Gary? Much dithering over the obscurities and nonentities who besides Kunz wore 44 before he went to The Source, crediting "our friends at Mets By The Numbers Dot Com" for reminding them David Cone, Jason Isringhausen and Lastings Milledge were all in on 44. No mention, however, of my eternal 44, Bob Myrick.

Gwreck Aug 03 2008 05:14 PM

I thought -- from my 12th row seat behind home plate (no sign of George and Barbara Bush) -- that Meriwether was calling the strikes inconsistently. Nick Evans should not be playing left field. Cannot believe he did not get an error when he fell down, and then on the next batter, his slow pursuit and retrieval of the ball in the corner allowed the second run to score. Oliver deserved better (no walks, again). Houston getting three runners thrown out on the bases in terrible fashion was no comfort, nor was David Newhan's GIDP. Kunz looked nervous of course but if he controls the fastball he should be ok. The Houston fans still really hate Beltran. "He deserted us for a couple extra million" was the stated reason. They don't seem to understand capitalism (in Houston, of all places!), or that their owner has plenty of dough, or that Beltran wasn't exactly a homegrown player, or what he did for them in the playoffs, etc. Suffice to say that the Houston fans did not impress at all in terms of baseball intelligence.

Nymr83 Aug 03 2008 05:21 PM

its the fact that he wasn't a homegrown player that really bothers me. they are booing the guy because of a misperception that they couldn't afford him while ignoring the fact that they only got him in the first place because KC was less able to afford him.

AG/DC Aug 03 2008 07:19 PM

Good point. On Nick Evans... sure, except, if you're not going to score any runs, it doesn't matter if you have Roberto Clemente out there.

SteveJRogers Aug 03 2008 09:09 PM

Eh, its mostly what he and Boras did during the negotiations, the fact that they played their usual games with the Astros, and in the end took the New York deal despite it being comparable.

Gwreck Aug 03 2008 11:34 PM

AG/DC wrote: Good point. On Nick Evans... sure, except, if you're not going to score any runs, it doesn't matter if you have Roberto Clemente out there. Nick Evans is also a big part of the "not scoring any runs" problem. If you're giving up on getting offense from the position, we should at least put Chavez out there -- yes, even against a lefty. Unless and until Evans can hit, he shouldn't have a place on the team.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 04 2008 08:21 AM

Gwreck wrote: If you're giving up on getting offense from the position, we should at least put Chavez out there -- yes, even against a lefty. Makes sense to me. There's really a lot riding on Ryan Church's return, isn't there?

AG/DC Aug 04 2008 08:42 AM

Except Evans has an OPS of .774 against lefthanders and Chavez one of .535. Starting him once or twice a week seems defensible given the team's options.

Gwreck Aug 04 2008 09:30 AM

Tiny sample size (30 PAs) for that stat, however. After the one glorious game in Coors Field, Evans is 8 for 45 with one double and one RBI. That being said, I would agree that it's defensible (even if I don't like it/disagree) for Manuel to give him a start once a week. Minaya doesn't have the same excuse.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 04 2008 09:45 AM