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Edgy DC Jun 05 2005 09:42 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jan 25 2006 01:09 PM |
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metsmarathon Jun 05 2005 10:29 PM |
mike cameron should be moving up that all-time career list, too. its not just all about cliff!
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SI Metman Jun 06 2005 01:02 AM |
Hopefully Cliff stays healthy enough to meet those projections. It's sad to see that those power numbers are better than his last 2 seasons combined. Damn injuries.
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metsmarathon Jun 06 2005 08:32 AM |
if reyes is to maintain his pace for the entire season, he would:
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Edgy DC Jun 06 2005 08:44 AM |
It's not all about Cliff. I highlight one guy per post.
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seawolf17 Jun 06 2005 08:48 AM |
Hey, Mikey keeps moving up one very special list:
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Benjamin Grimm Jun 06 2005 08:49 AM |
I remember when Wayne Garrett, with his 55 homers, was in tenth place on the all-time Mets list.
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Elster88 Jun 06 2005 09:32 AM |
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Also known as, a list of slow players who got a helluva a lot of at-bats as Mets. |
Edgy DC Jun 11 2005 08:27 PM |
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Edgy DC Jun 12 2005 12:07 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 12 2005 06:13 AM |
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Iubitul Jun 12 2005 12:22 AM |
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pssst... This is 2005..
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Edgy DC Jun 12 2005 06:12 AM |
Thanks. I shall correct now that I have my morning brain on.
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Edgy DC Jun 16 2005 07:21 PM |
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In Met homers, this whole season looks to be a one-man race for second for Mike Piazza, but in the realm of big-league homers, Piazza has caught Dwight Evans, and Johnny Bench within reach.
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cooby Jun 16 2005 07:40 PM |
I thought that said Where Mets Bank
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Edgy DC Jun 16 2005 08:01 PM |
Yeah, I'm not into the font either.
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duan Jun 17 2005 08:28 AM |
I don't know for how much money, but I'd really like to try and keep mike for another season. I kinda feel I'd love him to retire as the mets leading HR hitter of all time, the only way that could happen would be if their was a Piazza playing for the mets in 2006.
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Benjamin Grimm Jun 17 2005 08:34 AM |
Mike still needs 45 homers to pass Darryl. I suspect he'd have to return for 2007 (and maybe 2008) to get another 45 home runs.
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Benjamin Grimm Jun 17 2005 08:38 AM |
And Piazza now has 981 hits as a Met. He's coming up on a big milestone.
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Elster88 Jun 17 2005 08:39 AM |
Just out of curiousity, who's number 15 on the All-Time Career Met Homers list?
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Edgy DC Jun 17 2005 08:41 AM |
I think the Mets have put off talk of resigning Piazza until the off season and so should we.
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duan Jun 17 2005 09:29 AM definitely |
they should wait and see, I'm just saying that emotionally, he's my strongest bond to the franchise, and I'd like three things to happen
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Benjamin Grimm Jun 17 2005 09:32 AM |
Number 3 on that list is the one I'd most like to see.
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Edgy DC Jun 17 2005 09:45 AM |
Well, for what it's worth, his Met career slugging percentage of .546 is likely to stand for a while as a record among Mets with X at-bats, at least until David Wright sees at-bat number X. And Wright, at .515 after 487 at-bats, is certainly no lock. Neither is Beltran, but we'll see.
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Nymr83 Jun 17 2005 04:55 PM |
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My friend, a Yankee fan, says that #3 is already a lock. I disagree and I am STRONGLY opposed to resigning the guy just to try and get him into the hall as a Met. The Mets should be trying to win next year and the year after and should only resign Piazza if he is the best overall catching option available this offseason, taking into account offense, defense, and health of all available catchers.
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Bret Sabermetric Jun 17 2005 05:41 PM |
This emotional attachment to Mike Piazza, which many of you seem to have and which I (clearly) lack, would be okay if you folks would just acknowledge that such ephemeral commodities as the cap on his HOF plaque has cost you a great deal. Getting to root for him the last few unproductive seasons has retarded the Mets' chances of fielding a decent team, and I wouldn't have paid that particular price, if it were up to me. But you've voiced your adoration of Piazza, and Freddy has heard your voices (and the coins jingling in your pocket) and he's given you what you demanded.
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Frayed Knot Jun 17 2005 10:18 PM |
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#1 It would be nice (and hey, who said he's getting another job anyway?) but it's not worth it if it doesn't help the team #2 - I don't even understand #2 #3 - I've spouted off about this subject before ... but I really hate this arguement. * First of all, I don't care what he "goes in as". It's not like the image on the plaque limits a career to that phase only at the exclusion of any and all others. It wouldn't diminish his Met career one iota if his likeness contained some other insignia. * His NYM ABs passed his LAD ABs about a year and change ago - so unless he returns to Dodgertown after this season and stays at least 2 full seasons, he'll still wind up w/the plurality of his career in the blue and orange. * And - like #1 - it would be really dumb reason if that were the only reason we retained a player.
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duan Jun 18 2005 04:41 AM |
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Thing is, while sport is about athletic performance and competition it is also apparent that in relation to *teams* emotional attachment is a huge part of why one is capable of and persists in following one particular team rather then the game and the people who play it best at any particular moment in time. I'm aware that it may well be better for the mets to part ways with Piazza at the end of the season, I'm just saying that due to a particular confluence between his arrival in New York and mine that I'm conscious that to me, at least, he's one of the reasons I've bothered to continue to follow baseball from 3,000 miles away.
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Bret Sabermetric Jun 18 2005 05:39 AM |
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Yeah, the 2001 season. Now after three or four sub-par seasons, you're willing to concede "OKay, we'll be willing to sacrifice his services"--that's mighty big of you. The idea was to do that when he could have gotten you something valuable in return. The luxury of having Piazza catch for you and bat clean-up has cost you a huge chunk of your lives. (Say, where are all those fine folks who claimed at the beginning of this year that Piazza in the four-hole was still a good idea? Lost in cyberspace, I suppose. Let's just say that I made up that last point, since I cant support it thanks to EZ-board any more, okay? Theyre in cyber-heaven, rubbing shoulders with the "Mientkiewicz is a Gold Glove/All-Star/ MVP /Jesus Christ type who we need like air itself" crowd.) "Will you put a freaking sock in it, already? No one cares! You're a Met-hater, and I'm not listening to you any more. LALALALALALA."
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KC Jun 18 2005 06:44 AM |
>>>This emotional attachment to Mike Piazza, which many of you seem to have and which I (clearly) lack<<<
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Bret Sabermetric Jun 18 2005 06:50 AM |
I feel the love.
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KC Jun 18 2005 06:59 AM |
Happy Birthday
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cooby Jun 18 2005 07:13 AM |
Happy Birthday, Sal! Have a piece of strawberry rhubarb pie for me!
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ScarletKnight41 Jun 18 2005 09:24 AM |
BS - is it really your birthday? If so, have a great one!
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Bret Sabermetric Jun 18 2005 09:46 AM |
Hmmm...maybe I am feeling some love here.
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Edgy DC Jun 19 2005 04:00 PM |
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I'm guessing, but it may take until the end of the season for Piazza to pass Grote in hits by a Met catcher.
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KC Jun 19 2005 04:04 PM |
How about rbi and ind lob's or some measure of what he does with risp?
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Edgy DC Jun 19 2005 04:10 PM |
In RBI, he's third and within a whisper of second. LoBs and BA with RiSP are elusive stats to measure against the Mets all-time.
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KC Jun 19 2005 04:46 PM |
He's lucky that his early years were so dominant, otherwise the last couple
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ScarletKnight41 Jun 19 2005 04:50 PM |
Whenever I think of Glavine, I think of freezing my ass off Opening Day 2003 for his Met debut.
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KC Jun 19 2005 04:54 PM |
I found Gary Carter's post '86 years with the Mets frustrating too. I used to
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Edgy DC Jun 19 2005 05:05 PM |
He's lucky that his early years were so dominant, otherwise the last couple of years might have elusively whispered him out of the HOF.
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KC Jun 19 2005 05:25 PM |
Fortunate then, don't word play me. If you want to root for him go ahead, I'm done.
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Bret Sabermetric Jun 19 2005 08:17 PM |
How would a Moslem feel upon having converted the Pope to follow Islam?
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Edgy DC Jun 19 2005 09:10 PM |
That's not what I was doing.
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duan Jun 20 2005 06:38 AM thing is |
you may mock my liking of Piazza and wishing his further success - and tying that up with records, retirements & the hall of fame. Here's the thing Piazza is more of *the mets* to me then any other player. It's as simple as that, when he goes there'll be no connection to the team I first followed. That's fine, all 'fans' go through that it over the passing of time.
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Edgy DC Jun 20 2005 10:24 AM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jun 20 2005 11:07 AM |
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Mike Piazza v. Mike Piazza with Runners in Scoring Position
*I haven't been able to locate Piazza's 1998 totals w/RiSP, so this data is incomplete.
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KC Jun 20 2005 10:39 AM |
I think he probably had a good hundred games with the Mets in 1998 and
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Bret Sabermetric Jun 20 2005 03:47 PM |
Well, SOMETHING happened in between mocking some poor hapless predictor's remark that the Mets will never have another playoff team with Piazza on it (by sticking it in your sig line) and "If you want to root for him go ahead, I'm done."
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KC Jun 20 2005 04:01 PM |
Poor Sal, we wounded him so ...
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Edgy DC Jun 21 2005 09:15 PM |
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In the single-season category, it looks like Jose could quickly try and fill that huge gap between the leader and the pack.
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Nymr83 Jun 21 2005 09:48 PM |
Sal, i admit i did not join the "anti-piazza party" until last year, but why does it matter when people came around, calm down on the converting thing, Piazza's lack of production converted them, not you :)
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Bret Sabermetric Jun 22 2005 05:00 AM |
Nymr83--it's not about my getting credit for conversion, or getting credit for being right, but now it hardly matters if you're pro-Piazza or anti-, because there's no real buyers for Piazza on any level whatsoever. If the Mets released him, there would be many multiples of the numbers of teams who would go "Meh" as opposed to the teams who, even a year or two ago, would go, "I'll buy THAT for a dollar!" Almost literally, you can't give him away any more.
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Johnny Dickshot Jun 22 2005 05:08 AM |
Who are you talking to?
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cooby Jun 22 2005 05:14 AM |
Wow, I was not aware that my personal interest in this club had such a direct result on their fortunes. And from so far away, too. I will have to be more careful about that.
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Bret Sabermetric Jun 22 2005 05:40 AM |
Dickshot, I think you and Cooby are being disingenuous here.
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KC Jun 22 2005 06:09 AM |
I need this like I need a hole in the head.
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Bret Sabermetric Jun 22 2005 06:21 AM |
You see, KC, that some people are in indefensible positions so they mostly treat my posts as invisible these days. If you ferociously and mockingly asserted that Piazza was likely to drive in 80 runs last year, that makes me think that there may have been an equally wrongheaded major league GM who thought last year at that time that possibility was much larger than I thought it was. What I advocated then was simply to find out what that hypothetical (but very real) GM would have given you in exchange for Piazza.
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KC Jun 22 2005 07:24 AM |
Look, let me be blunt. These outbursts make no fucking sense to me.
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Rotblatt Jun 22 2005 07:58 AM |
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Okey dokey, smokey! While I agree that we should be sellers this year, your statement is laughable. There are maybe one or two teams who have conceded the season so far. Those teams are worse in the standings than we are and have less talent than we do. Are ALL the GMs with records worse than ours despicable for not throwing in the towel yet? What about all the teams who are more than 6.5 games out? Or maybe just those more than 3 games out of the wild card race? Anything can happen in a season, Sal. Even I know that Omar can't publicly throw in the towel yet, and I totally agree with you that we should be sellers this year, not buyers. As for your hypothesis that Omar is only concerned with putting the appearance of talent on the field, what the fuck are you talking about? He's been here all of about five minutes. How can you possibly blame him for Piazza or Glavine or Kazmir or Huber or Peterson? Maybe you don't like the moves he's made, but it's waaaay too early to start saying he's only interested in window dressing. And I think it's clear that this team, while flawed, is both better than the ones we've trotted out the last few years, and contains more players likely to contribute in the years ahead. Do you honestly think we're worse last year than we are now? Or that we'd be better this year with Phillips, Stanton & McEwing than with Pedro, Beltran & Ishii?
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soupcan Jun 22 2005 08:04 AM |
I think what you are failing to see as far as Piazza's value to the Mets is the business side of it.
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duan Jun 22 2005 08:49 AM that's complete nonsense sal |
Ok, the world series in 2000 was the pinnacle of the Leiter/Piazza/Alfonso Mets. They got within Timo Perez actually running freaking hard on a Todd Zeile double again the wall of winning the whole thing. Well, no we weren't but we were petty damn close and if the raison d'etre is winning the world series then that would CLEARLY have been difficult time to "start rebuilding" that was the year to try and strengthen the team in a couple of key areas to go try and take a step up.
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Johnny Dickshot Jun 22 2005 09:48 AM |
Come on now. It's so much easier just to accuse the other side of sleeping in Piazza Pajamas.
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Bret Sabermetric Jun 22 2005 10:02 AM |
I make too easy a target of myself by using hyperbolic rhetoric like Piazza pajamas. I can say it in a less attractive way for the Dickshots of this world, but I prefer not to.
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cooby Jun 22 2005 10:04 AM |
Mind telling us what you're doing on a pro-Mets forum then?
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soupcan Jun 22 2005 10:14 AM |
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You don't have to agree with Fred or even sympathize. I just get the impression that you think they are just stoopid for not dealing Piazza when in fact there are very valid reasons for not doing so. Also if you think that owning a professional sports team is the source of 'untold riches' then I'm wondering how you got the keys to MFS' medicine cabinet. Its well documented that these teams lose more money than they make and even those that do turn a profit do a relitively modest one at that. These franchises are playthings, toys and in many cases tax shelters that serve to massage the egos of their billionaire owners. Why do you think there are no more 'family-owned' teams? They can't afford them. Teams are owned by multi-national conglomerates for the pupose of providing a vehicle to promote their other products. In terms of te Mets they are owned by Sterling Equities which is a real estate company. Don't think that lo, those many moons ago when Wilpon and Doubleday bought the team, that Freddy didn't know that one day a stadium would be built and Sterling would profit handsomely. Sure it took a lot longer than he thought but here it comes.
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Bret Sabermetric Jun 22 2005 10:16 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 22 2005 10:32 AM |
I am pro-Mets.
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Bret Sabermetric Jun 22 2005 10:18 AM |
Soup--Piazza's a symbol of the problem. I actually like the guy, in many ways.
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soupcan Jun 22 2005 10:22 AM |
I hear ya.
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cooby Jun 22 2005 10:22 AM |
Well no, I'm not asking you to stop.
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cooby Jun 22 2005 10:26 AM |
(Cooby comes to mind), that the W-L record is a blip on the radar screen of their enjoyment.
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Willets Point Jun 22 2005 10:32 AM |
Everything seems right with this forum now.
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Bret Sabermetric Jun 22 2005 10:42 AM |
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Maybe someone can explain this stuff to me. The Mets are essentially a charitable organization that runs at a loss year after year, yet is part of a gigantic money-generating mega-conglomerate: Am I supposed to commiserate with the poor Metsies for their difficulty keeping out of bankruptcy, or view them as a money-making monster for the crucial part they play in the big, bad mega-conglomerate's financial scheme to control the world? Or are you spinning it both ways at once? If the team per se loses money (on one set of books) but enable Fred to print cash for his real estate business (on another), am I supposed to then give a flying fuck that he's unwilling to lose a few more millions in his loss-leader here?
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soupcan Jun 22 2005 10:48 AM |
I don't pretend to know how exactly it works. I have been told by people who are in a position to know however, that it does. And very nicely.
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Rotblatt Jun 22 2005 11:06 AM |
I think that many owners do get back more money than they put in, but they are (quite legally) able to hide certain incomes in such ways that shows them to be losing money. Which is to their advantage for tax & PR purposes. It also helps when they're trying to bilk a stadium out of a city.
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duan Jun 22 2005 11:06 AM if you want to address |
the issue of the way baseball teams make money, that's an ENTIRELY different ball game - for a start the restrictive labor practices would need to go, similarly the 'mlb' structure where it's a closed shop is hugely negative to genuine competition.
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duan Jun 22 2005 11:09 AM by the way |
if you've the remotest interest in all this kind of skullduggery you should start by checking out the late Doug Pappas' fantastic website [url]http://roadsidephotos.sabr.org/baseball/index.htm[/url]
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Vic Sage Jun 22 2005 11:24 AM |
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well, since you're apparently talking to me... 1) i don't go to see Mike Piazza ...i go to see my baseball team; 2) i never said we shouldn't trade him, i just disagreed as to the value of a good hitting catcher, even one in decline, so paying somebody to take him in exchange for a bag of balls (which YOU were advocating) was not a deal i was interested in; 3) That he's batted in the middle of the order for too long has had to do with the dearth of other options, but now has more to do with Randolph's inability to write out a lineup card. WWSB has had Reyes 1st and Wright hitting 7th-8th most of the season! It should come as no great surprise he's also been slow to adjust to Mike's continuing decline; 4) Despite his decline, Mike Piazza is currently 4TH IN RUNS CREATED amongst major league catchers, trailing only I-rod, posada and Varitek; 5) His presence hasn't kept us from the post-season, and it hasn't kept us from spending money, it has simply allowed us to continue to have one of the better hitting catchers in baseball in our lineup. 6) I don't see a steady diet of Ramon Castro being of much help to this franchise, now or in the future; 7) I don't care what hat Mike wears in the HOF; 8) I'd be happy to trade him or nor re-sign him if we have better catching options. But we don't right now. Whether we re-sign Mike should have to do with what our needs are, who is available, and at what price, and what we think a reasonable expectation is for his production next year. I take no position on it right now. Although a .260/20hr/60rbi season still makes him a productive catcher, as long as he's hitting 6th-7th, not 4th. on a broader subject, your advocacy of "dumping" the best hitting catcher in baseball the year after he lead us to the WS (after 2 prior playoff seasons) was met with derision, and rightfully so. In 2001, Mike was (again) 1st amongst catchers in RC (by a large margin); in 2002, he was 2nd (just behind Posada); in 2003, he was injured in 2004, he was 8th and this year, he's 4th I don't see, from this, a catcher we needed to dump. Instead of signing other mediocrities to big money, perhaps we should've built the team more wisely, and then Mike's contributions would've been more valuable in the context of better teams. You've gone on record as being an advocate for youth over experience, for rebuilding on principle, for your willingness to suffer 100-loss seasons as long as it might increase our future chances of winning the WS. I, on the other hand, am not tolerant of 100 loss seasons, i don't value youth for its own sake, nor discredit experience, and, in the biggest media market in the world, Wilpon can afford to keep a team winning at the same time that we cultivate the players in our farm system... it doesn't have to be one or the other. I've lived thru rebuilding that led to nothing, and it was based on ownership's UNWILLINGNESS to participate fully in the economics of baseball at the time. You can continue to rend your clothes over our Snidely Whiplash owner, and prop yourself up as the vindicated martyr, but i'm bored by the act.
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KC Jun 22 2005 11:42 AM |
So Bret, let me get this straight. You drag me through the muck on the
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Willets Point Jun 22 2005 12:07 PM |
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And Mr. Met looks so happy to be with you too!
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duan Jun 22 2005 12:17 PM all this kinda started |
when I said this
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Edgy DC Jun 22 2005 12:37 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 22 2005 12:48 PM |
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In other news, Braden Looper's save last night, getting his tormentor Bobby Abreu, leaves him ensconced as the ninth most prolific savior in Mets history.
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cooby Jun 22 2005 12:42 PM |
Oh yeah, this thread had an actual point to it once
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Johnny Dickshot Jun 22 2005 01:04 PM |
Just curious: Combined team saves in one season? Which season wins?
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Bret Sabermetric Jun 22 2005 03:16 PM |
Borderline character assassination, KC? I've never advocated the assasination of a borderline in my life. All I said about you (recently, here) was
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Willets Point Jun 22 2005 03:55 PM |
Well said, Bret.
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KC Jun 22 2005 04:03 PM |
Of course it's well said, he an excellent wordsmith.
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Bret Sabermetric Jun 22 2005 04:39 PM |
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Why, thank you, KC.
I don't know. I think I had to do some real work, and this seemed like more fun. Maybe you'll remind me of my reasons next Wednesday? I may have been right the first time. (Also I was planning to go incognito, but Widey Dickshot blew me out of the water prematurely.) Anyway, this needn't be about me nor about you guys. All's I was trying to establish was that Edgy and Norrin clearly felt last year that Piazza was a good bet to drive in 80 runs. Now, unless you accept the thesis that they're nuts or awful baseball judges, and I don't, there must have been some GMs who also considered that a real possibility. We should have found one of those GMs and figured out what was the maximum price we could extract from him. The Mets felt otherwise, mainly I think because of the non-baseball logic that Soupy is offering in this thread. I think that non-baseball logic requires us to feel bad for Freddy's bank account (maybe trading Piazza would have cost him some walkup sales in 2004, and that's just too damned bad for poor Fred.) This ongoing policy, of keeping your washed up veterans and maintaining a buyer's stance, and NOT DELIVERING YEAR AFTER YEAR, is getting very old, yet I don't hear any calls to back up the truck and endure a rebuilding season (which translates as A season in which we don't pretend to be a contender.) As long as that's unacceptable to you, and I haven't heard cries for it, I think we're on this treadmill to fifth place. That's why I;'m rooting for the Mets to lose--as long as you're taking solace in a fourth place finish or a .500 record through mid-May as positive signs, we're getting force-fed more of the same crap from Fred and Omar and the rest of the fakers.
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Bret Sabermetric Jun 22 2005 05:13 PM |
Anyway I don't mean to hog this thread nor hijack it.
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Edgy DC Jun 23 2005 01:12 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 23 2005 05:00 PM |
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Willets Point Jun 23 2005 01:59 PM |
Geez Louise, Cedeno never made it into the top 48 on that list in any of his other seasons with the Mets. What a blip!
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Edgy DC Jun 23 2005 03:08 PM |
Not shown: T33) Roger Cedeño, 2002: 25
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Willets Point Jun 23 2005 03:14 PM |
Oops, didn't notice the snip.
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Edgy DC Jun 23 2005 03:37 PM |
Still, "The Bilp" is a good Cedeño nickname.
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Edgy DC Jun 23 2005 05:08 PM |
I filled in the gap above and also added the career list.
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Edgy DC Jun 24 2005 11:54 AM |
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It's interesting, but it seems that part of where Piazza's home run power is going is into doubles. He's on a pace to produce the heighest doubles total of his career.
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Edgy DC Jun 24 2005 12:13 PM |
Pedro's aiming at breaking into what has been thus far a pretty exclusive three-man club in the top ten.
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Edgy DC Jun 24 2005 09:14 PM |
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Tonight's homer was Cliff Floyd's 18th, his magic number as a Met.
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Edgy DC Jun 25 2005 03:21 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 25 2005 03:34 PM |
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Floyd's season passes nine others with that homer, including two of his own. He currently projects to put up the homerist season in the Mets in their 44-year history.
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KC Jun 25 2005 03:29 PM |
I have to admit I thought about Hundley's mark this afternoon. I quieted my
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Edgy DC Jun 25 2005 07:02 PM |
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Now for the post-game. I'll start with the obvious, rebooting Cliff Floyd's pace to account for his second homer. Remember T64) Bobby Bonilla 1992 and Rusty Staub, 1974? Cliff is so over those seasons? How about Ron Swoboda's rookie season of 1965? His once Met rookie record of 19 homers is now tied for 64th all-time thanks to Cliff's smackdown of Yankee pitching. Likewise Rusty Staub 1975, John Olerud, 1999, and Jeromy Burnitz 2002. Dustbin of history.
Now for other news. Did you know, a lot is happening this season on the doubles front? Just to keep things jake, I'm going to track three guys at once. Because of the nature of doubles (most everybody who starts can reach at least the high teens in doubles totals over a season), these guys are still way back in the pack, all-time, but they're projecting to three of the doubliest seasons in Met history. Obviously, it's going to take some health for Piazza to keep going, but it's not too hard to imagine Beltran picking up his pace. 1) Bernard Gilkey, 1996: 44 David Wright Projected to End of Season: 43.78 T2) Howard Johnson, 1989: 41 T2) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1999: 41 T4) Gregg Jefferies, 1990: 40 T4) Edgardo Alfonzo 40 Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 39.41 6) John Olerud, 1999: 39 7) Robin Ventura, 1999: 38 T8) Eddie Murray, 1992: 37 T8) Howard Johnson, 1990: 37 T8) Lenny Dykstra, 1987: 37 T8) Felix Millan, 1975: 37 T8) Joel Youngblood, 1979: 37 T13) Brian McRae, 1998: 36 T13) John Olerud, 1998: 36 T13) Rusty Staub, 1973: 36 T13) Todd Zeile, 2000: 36 T13) Ty Wigginton, 2003: 36 Carlos Beltran Projected to End of Season: 35.03 T18) John Olerud, 1997: 34 T18) Howard Johnson, 1991: 34 T18) Keith Hernandez, 1985: 34 T18) Keith Hernandez, 1986: 34 T18) Lee Mazzilli, 1979: 34... ...T147) Rey Ordóñez, 1998: 20 T147) Jeff Kent, 1996: 20 T147) Kevin Elster, 1990: 20 T147) Tim Teufel, 1988: 20 T147) John Milner, 1977: 20 T147) Charley Smith, 1965: 20 T147) David Wright, 2005: 20 T147) Ken Boswell, 1971: 20 T147) Wayne Garrett, 1973: 20 T147) Ed Kranepool, 1971: 20 T147) Tim Teufel, 1986: 20 T147) Robin Ventura, 2001: 20... ...T181) Butch Huskey, 1998: 18 T181) Dick Schofield, 1992: 18 T181) Darryl Strawberry, 1990: 18 T181) Gary Carter, 1987: 18 T181) Elliott Maddox, 1978: 18 T181) Del Unser, 1975: 18 T181) Bud Harrelson, 1970: 18 T181) Donn Clendenon, 1970: 18 T181) Jerry Grote, 1968: 18 T181) Joe Christopher, 1965: 18 T181) Jim Hickman, 1965: 18 T181) Jim Hickman, 1962: 18 T181) Hubie Brooks, 1983: 18 T181) Mike Piazza, 2005: 18 T181) Wally Backman, 1986: 18 T181) Howard Johnson, 1985: 18 T181) Benny Agbayani, 1999: 18 T181) Mo Vaughn, 2002: 18 T181) Jeromy Burnitz, 2003: 18 T181) Jason Phillips, 2004: 18... ...T221) Butch Huskey, 1996: 16 T221) Kevin Elster, 1991: 16 T221) Daryl Boston, 1991: 16 T221) Keith Hernandez, 1988: 16 T221) Gary Carter, 1988: 16 T221) Claudell Washington, 1980: 16 T221) Elliott Maddox, 1980: 16 T221) Steve Henderson, 1979: 16 T221) Steve Henderson, 1977: 16 T221) Lenny Randle, 1978: 16 T221) Joe Torre, 1975: 16 T221) Bud Harrelson, 1967: 16 T221) Carlos Beltran, 2005: 16 T221) Bud Harrelson, 1971: 16 T221) Ed Kranepool, 1975: 16 T221) Cleon Jones, 1966: 16 T221) Mookie Wilson, 1985: 16 T221) Jay Payton, 2001: 16 T221) Todd Zeile, 2004: 16 T221) Jose Reyes, 2004: 16
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Iubitul Jun 25 2005 07:13 PM |
I really hope Cliff passes Hundley - I always believed that Hundley's numbers were steroid assisted...
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soupcan Jun 25 2005 07:21 PM |
I'm surprised to read that lubby.
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Edgy DC Jun 28 2005 12:09 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jun 28 2005 03:20 PM |
Using our PotG statistics, Mike Piazza has already moved from the ninth-most accomplished Met to the sixth-most this season, and will, barring a catastrophic injury, certainly pass fellow-31 John Franco in fifth place.
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Elster88 Jun 28 2005 03:14 PM |
Wright's first full season and he's on almost pace to tie the all-time doubles record? Not bad, kid.
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Edgy DC Jun 28 2005 03:36 PM |
By the way, the countdown to 1,000 Met hits has begun for Mike Piazza:
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Edgy DC Jun 28 2005 07:18 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 28 2005 07:44 PM |
Hit Number 992:
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Edgy DC Jun 28 2005 07:43 PM |
Hit Number 993:
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seawolf17 Jun 30 2005 12:34 PM |
All Time Mets Triples
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Frayed Knot Jun 30 2005 12:46 PM |
Hit Number 994:
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seawolf17 Jun 30 2005 01:02 PM |
All Time Mets K's:
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Edgy DC Jun 30 2005 07:51 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 01 2005 06:39 AM |
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OK, let's do this right.
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Edgy DC Jun 30 2005 08:01 PM |
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Three games from the half-way mark in the season, Jose Reyes already has the third highest triple total in Mets history. His pace isn't currently fast enough to overtake Lance Johnson 1996, but it is increasing.
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Edgy DC Jun 30 2005 08:13 PM |
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Big top-ten-type news here: Piazza's fifth-inning single was the 994th of his Met career, tying him with fellow-catcher Jerry Grote as the eighth hitliest Met of all time.
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Edgy DC Jun 30 2005 08:34 PM |
Finally, Pedro has already tied John Matlack '77 and Dave Mlicki '95 for 86th place on the all-time season strikeout list for the Mets. I like this list a lot, because it shows how guys simply have their level, with a lot of guys -- Al Leiter or Bobby Jones f'rinstance, but Nolan Ryan also -- having their healthy seasons bunched together.
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Willets Point Jun 30 2005 08:41 PM |
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Musn't have been big innings.
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Benjamin Grimm Jul 01 2005 05:49 AM |
Piazza's June 30 hit was actually his 995th as a Met.
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Elster88 Jul 02 2005 05:17 PM |
All-Time Mets Hits in a Single Season
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Benjamin Grimm Jul 07 2005 01:06 PM |
Two hits today (so far) and Mike Piazza now has 997 as a Met.
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Elster88 Jul 07 2005 01:12 PM |
Just looking through the list of single season hits.
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Edgy DC Jul 07 2005 08:23 PM |
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Yeah, a big part of what made that season such big news for Piazza is that he had four of the best table-setters in Met history on base in front of him -- Henderson, Alfonzo, Olerud, and Cedeño.
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Edgy DC Jul 07 2005 08:36 PM |
And HoJo is falling on two fronts!
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Benjamin Grimm Jul 11 2005 06:28 AM |
Strikeouts in a season:
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Benjamin Grimm Jul 11 2005 06:29 AM |
Totals strikeouts as a Met:
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Edgy DC Jul 11 2005 07:28 AM |
Pretty interesting that, after all this time, the top ten is a three-man club.
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Benjamin Grimm Jul 11 2005 07:30 AM |
And Matlack is the only southpaw to get more than 200 in a season. In their best strikeout years, Koosman, Leiter, and Fernandez each got exactly 200.
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Benjamin Grimm Jul 14 2005 07:42 PM |
Piazza gets his 1,000th Mets hit with style. A three-run tie-breaking homer against the Braves at Shea.
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Edgy DC Jul 14 2005 07:47 PM |
Sweet.
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Frayed Knot Jul 14 2005 07:52 PM |
Funny how neither of the radio guys mentioned that it was hit #1,000.
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Edgy DC Jul 15 2005 09:15 AM |
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Piazza's likely done climbing the Mets career ladder in homers, but the overall ladder goes on.
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Edgy DC Jul 15 2005 05:24 PM |
The home run also accounted for Mike Piazza's 1,200th RBi.
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Elster88 Jul 21 2005 09:44 AM |
All-Time Mets Hits in a Single Season
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Edgy DC Jul 21 2005 10:31 AM |
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Four hundred is a little more possible today than yesterday.
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Edgy DC Jul 22 2005 03:01 PM |
Goal: To get Jose Reyes off the bottom of the MLB OpS charts among qualifiers:
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Johnny Dickshot Jul 22 2005 03:24 PM |
How about we also get Carlos Beltran out of Daryle Ward's neighborhood. My goodness.
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Elster88 Jul 22 2005 04:53 PM |
Ichiro and Crawford are also down there? Lo Duca below Piazza?
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Edgy DC Jul 25 2005 09:35 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 05 2005 10:49 PM |
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Piazza's next chase is Joe Carter. Four hundred is still a reach of sorts.
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Elster88 Jul 25 2005 09:43 AM |
Junior Griffey should be in brick color too, no? I'm guessing that's not Senior?
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Edgy DC Jul 25 2005 09:49 AM |
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OK, back to an ol' favorite. Jose Reyes's 2005 is already the second tripliest of all Met time. His pace has seemingly fallen off to put him out of contention for catching Lance Johnson, but these things come in bunches.
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Elster88 Jul 25 2005 09:51 AM |
All-Time Met Doubles in a Single Season
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Elster88 Jul 25 2005 01:09 PM |
Jose has missed one game so far this year. I predicted he would play in 120 games this year in our predictions thread in the old CPF. This isn't a category that gets cracked often, only three new entries to the top 20 since 1991.
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Edgy DC Jul 25 2005 09:39 PM |
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Jose's all alone in second place now. It's a long chase after Lance.
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seawolf17 Jul 27 2005 02:15 PM |
Interesting, albeit relatively worthless, info from today's Mets Press Pass notes:
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Elster88 Jul 27 2005 02:20 PM |
Where does one who isn't a member of the press get Press Pass notes? Or is that not possible?
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seawolf17 Jul 27 2005 02:24 PM |
They have them on mlb.com... go to News, then Press Pass. You have to create an account, then they'll e-mail you every day when they're ready. I usually check them, just for kicks; if I think of it, I try to print them out before I go to a game (because I'm a nerd). They're an invaluable KTE resource.
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Elster88 Aug 03 2005 08:56 AM |
A good couple of weeks and Jose is projecting to break the top 3.
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Elster88 Aug 03 2005 09:00 AM |
Reyes has missed one game this year. Wright has missed two.
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Elster88 Aug 03 2005 09:06 AM |
Reyes looking to break 700. He's looking to pass Kaz's mark from last year. I think he might just.
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Benjamin Grimm Aug 03 2005 09:25 AM |
I seem to remember a time when the single-season record for at bats in a season was 699. (Manny Trillo, perhaps?) I'm pretty sure it's since been broken, and that there have been a few 700 seasons. Though not, of course, for the Mets.
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Edgy DC Aug 03 2005 11:38 AM |
Willie Wilson had the first 700-at-bat season, I'm pretty sure.
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Frayed Knot Aug 03 2005 01:05 PM |
700 AB seasons:
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Benjamin Grimm Aug 03 2005 01:47 PM |
My Manny Trillo guess was way off. His career high was 582 at bats.
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Edgy DC Aug 04 2005 10:05 PM |
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Round number time. With the season two thirds gone, Mike Piazza is on a pace for exactly 21 homers, which projects him to exactly 399 homers for his career, the exact same place his almost teammate Andres Galarraga packed it in.
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Edgy DC Aug 05 2005 07:29 AM |
Just when I was sure Greg couldin't carry him any longer, Jason steps up.
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metirish Aug 05 2005 07:39 AM |
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Excellent, I've added "fear & faith" as a favorite,I was at this game,great discription.
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Edgy DC Aug 05 2005 10:59 PM |
Mike Piazza has passed Darryl in one category. In the other, you can feel it in the air, the Darryl's out of reach. But he has passed Johnson. 'Eighty-six Mets are dropping like infield flies.
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soupcan Aug 06 2005 09:10 AM |
This is my favorite thread to peruse by the way.
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Iubitul Aug 06 2005 09:38 AM |
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With the exception of Manny, and maybe A-Rod, it seems like all of those names in dark red are suspect.
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Edgy DC Aug 08 2005 12:04 PM |
All-Time Wins by a Major League Pitcher
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Edgy DC Aug 09 2005 10:07 AM |
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Since last we checked, Jose Reyes's 2005 has gone from the 43rd theftiest season in Met history to the tenth. Career-wise, Jose has entered this huge void of 23 thefts between 13th and 14th, between Frank Taveras and Kevn McReynolds, between base-stealers and guys that can steal.
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MFS62 Aug 09 2005 10:56 AM |
Edgy, those lists awoke some great memories for me. The first players that I saw on those lists were Musial, Snider (In Brooklyn) and Ted Williams (I saw diMaggio, too).
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Edgy DC Aug 13 2005 10:37 PM |
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Since last we checked on Reyes, he's passed the best two stolen-base seasons that Vince Coleman had in a Met uniform. He's pace now has him breathing down Mookie's neck for the second-stealiest Met season ever.
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Edgy DC Aug 16 2005 10:16 PM |
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Floyd ties Olerud.
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Elster88 Aug 17 2005 09:20 AM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Sep 03 2005 06:59 PM |
We have another Met who has broken the top ten in a single season category.
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Edgy DC Aug 17 2005 07:49 PM |
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Bye, Bye, Burleigh. Hello, Nolie.
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Edgy DC Aug 18 2005 09:28 AM |
Mets RBIs in a Season
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Elster88 Aug 22 2005 12:00 PM |
I'm surprised that there have only been 16 times when a Met reached 100 RBI for a season.
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Elster88 Aug 24 2005 10:09 AM |
All-Time Met Doubles in a Single Season
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MFS62 Aug 24 2005 10:25 AM |
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I'm not. I've been following the team since the beginning, and was amazed that there were so many. Later
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Benjamin Grimm Aug 24 2005 10:28 AM |
Me too. Well, I haven't been around since the beginning, but I do remember when the Mets had never had a 100-rbi season. The first was Rusty Staub in 1975. (And then they traded him!)
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Willets Point Aug 24 2005 10:32 AM |
Looks like he broke his own record: T54) Rusty Staub, 1974: 78
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seawolf17 Aug 24 2005 10:37 AM |
Donn Clendenon, 97 RBI in 1970.
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Willets Point Aug 24 2005 10:54 AM |
Damn, fooled by Edgy's snip once again!
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Valadius Aug 25 2005 08:24 AM |
How is Hafner tied for 7th with nobody?
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Elster88 Aug 25 2005 08:29 AM |
Fixed.
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SI Metman Aug 25 2005 08:57 AM |
A-Rod... nobody... same difference
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Elster88 Aug 25 2005 09:14 AM |
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The two triples he's hit in Arizona are his only ones in a month. He takes sole possesson of 12th all time.
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Edgy DC Aug 27 2005 03:56 PM |
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Career triple number 20 ties Jose for tenth all-time as a Met.
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Benjamin Grimm Aug 27 2005 05:06 PM |
And by next season he could be in second or third place.
Looks strange, doesn't it, in light of how he's doing this season.
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Valadius Sep 03 2005 06:01 PM |
BUMP.
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Rockin' Doc Sep 03 2005 06:08 PM |
How did Kranepool ever get 25 triples? I thought he was slow first baseman. How many times can an outfielder knock himself unconscious or break a leg trying to make a play. Hard to imagine ED legging out all those doubles any other way, no matter how many at bats he had in his career.
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Edgy DC Sep 03 2005 06:28 PM |
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Updating.
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Elster88 Sep 03 2005 06:56 PM |
We have another Met who has broken the top ten in a single season category.
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Bret Sabermetric Sep 04 2005 06:32 AM |
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Shouldn't that read "tied for the Met lead in triples, 2"?
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Edgy DC Sep 06 2005 08:00 PM |
All-Time Met Doubles in a Single Season
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Valadius Sep 07 2005 07:35 PM |
Reyes is now tied with Lance Johnson's CRAZY '96 season.
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Elster88 Sep 08 2005 07:35 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 08 2005 07:51 AM |
No, he's not.
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Elster88 Sep 08 2005 07:45 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 08 2005 07:51 AM |
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Does anyone know off the top of their head who was the last Met to finish in the top 5 in the NL in batting average? Olerud? I don't think Fonzie did in '99 or '00.
_____________________________ This post had the designation 162) Mike Phillips
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Edgy DC Sep 08 2005 07:48 AM |
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Benjamin Grimm Sep 08 2005 08:07 AM |
Hmmm.
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Rockin' Doc Sep 08 2005 11:09 AM Where Mets Rank... |
Atlanta...... ...81 59..... .579
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Edgy DC Sep 10 2005 06:07 PM |
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Valadius Sep 11 2005 02:55 AM |
Why does Norm Cash have an asterisk next to his name?
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Edgy DC Sep 11 2005 06:03 AM |
I stole the list initially from a site that put asterisks next to lefties. I removed all of them as irrelevant to the exercise, but inadvertantly left Cash's.
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Edgy DC Sep 11 2005 12:42 PM |
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Reyes passes LJ.
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Edgy DC Sep 11 2005 12:58 PM |
All-Time Mets Caught Stealings in a Season
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Edgy DC Sep 11 2005 02:23 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 11 2005 02:24 PM |
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Valadius Sep 11 2005 02:24 PM |
I was just going to comment on this, too...
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Edgy DC Sep 11 2005 02:26 PM |
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Beatcha.
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Edgy DC Sep 11 2005 03:22 PM |
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Pedro not quite on a top-ten trajectory any more. Will the top ten remain a three-man club? Stay tuned.
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Edgy DC Sep 16 2005 07:32 PM |
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Pedro's 2005 leapfrogs eight other Met seasons tonight. Eight. Among those are two Seaver seasons, a Gooden, a Cone, a Matlack, a Fernandez, a Fernandez, and a Leiter. He's among royalty. He also inches his pace closer to a top-ten finish.
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Benjamin Grimm Sep 17 2005 06:47 AM |
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And a Koosman, too. I think it's kinda neat how the Mets record for most strikeouts my a left-hander is exactly 200, and that it's shared by three pitchers. If only Matlack had struck out five more in 1974...
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Benjamin Grimm Sep 17 2005 07:23 AM |
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Reyes getting into some exclusive territory. Ten more at bats, and he'll be in third place on this list. He has an outside shot at 700 at bats. (He'd need to average more than 5 per game.) But Lance Johnson is definitely within reach.
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Benjamin Grimm Sep 17 2005 07:29 AM |
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Players with more than 40 Doubles in a season
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Edgy DC Sep 17 2005 07:42 AM |
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Yeah, I accidentally put Fernandez twice.
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MFS62 Sep 17 2005 08:33 AM |
Don't know if this belongs here or in some other thread.
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Edgy DC Sep 18 2005 02:21 PM |
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Ok, let's do it.
Coming up, Cornelius Floyd
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Zvon Sep 18 2005 02:33 PM |
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Ill be glad to create an updated versions to these cards(these cards were made in 2002 for the mets 40th anni) I made an entire digital baseball card set that takes you thru the Mets 1st 40 yrs bk in 2002. Made it at work in my spare time and gave it to my brothers and met fan friends that Xmas as a PC slide show. I will set this up to view somewhere and share this with you guys over the winter. For now, a picture of a quarter will get you a 5 card pack any time Im logged in.
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Edgy DC Sep 18 2005 02:36 PM |
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Cliff has
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ScarletKnight41 Sep 18 2005 04:52 PM |
I love Zvon's handiwork with those cards!
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Benjamin Grimm Sep 18 2005 07:34 PM |
How great would it be if Tom Glavine won 27 games next season for the Mets?
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Edgy DC Sep 18 2005 07:50 PM |
I'll happily take half that.
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Edgy DC Sep 18 2005 09:53 PM |
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Edgy DC Sep 18 2005 10:29 PM |
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I wonder when he gets the team outs record. It seems almost guaranteed at this point.
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Valadius Sep 18 2005 10:50 PM |
Anybody want to go calculate THAT?
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Edgy DC Sep 21 2005 06:10 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 21 2005 06:18 PM |
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Zvon Sep 21 2005 06:16 PM |
yep----time for an update set.
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Edgy DC Sep 22 2005 07:44 AM |
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Jose is on the verge of besting Mookie's best. He's also projecting himself into the top-ten all-time Met base thieves
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Elster88 Sep 22 2005 07:47 AM |
I really like those cards Zvon. You just have to fix the all-time home run card. You have HoJo ahead of Mikey.
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Edgy DC Sep 22 2005 01:16 PM |
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Piazza's gone from eleventh to seventh on the hit list, with a good chance to finish fifth.
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Elster88 Sep 22 2005 01:18 PM |
Rey Ordonez, 14th most prolific hitter in Mets' history.
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Edgy DC Sep 22 2005 10:26 PM |
It's not like he's the only punch line in that list either, with Bud Harrelson fifth and Jerry Grote ninth. Felix Millan (13th) was only an occasional contributor also.
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Edgy DC Sep 22 2005 10:37 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 23 2005 07:20 AM |
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One K tonight. Very disappointing, but it gets Pedro into the Seaver-Gooden-Cone Zone.
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Elster88 Sep 23 2005 06:58 AM |
From Gary's postgame chatter it sounds like Pedro might not pitch again this year.
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Edgy DC Sep 24 2005 09:23 PM |
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Pretty good counting year for Glavine, passing seven guys on the all-time win list and 15 on the Mets list.
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Edgy DC Sep 24 2005 09:40 PM |
All-Time Mets RBI in a Single Season
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Edgy DC Sep 25 2005 08:39 PM |
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Piazza ties Joe Carter and Floyd starts appearing on the Met homerun list.
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Edgy DC Sep 28 2005 01:08 PM |
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Mookie has been consigned to history. Perhaps Reyes gets permission to run like crazy after Cedeño, now that the Mets have been eliminated.
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Edgy DC Sep 28 2005 01:13 PM |
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This table really might've blown your mind had Jose Reyes gone for and attained those two other triples he had a shot at last night. For now, the fun part is the footrace between Reyes and Ed Kranepool.
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Benjamin Grimm Sep 28 2005 01:39 PM |
Here's another category where Jose is nearing the Top Ten. (And David Wright isn't too far behind.)
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Edgy DC Sep 29 2005 08:07 AM |
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I missed last night's action, mercifully, but there was still some ladder climbing. Lee Mazzilli is passed on the all-time homerun list.
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Willets Point Sep 29 2005 09:29 AM |
Mets fans will be eagerly tuning into the last games of the season to see if Mike Piazza can hit that projected .46 of a homerun.
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soupcan Sep 29 2005 09:47 AM |
I'd like to see Wright hit a three run jack this weekend and finish with 25 ding dongs, 100 ribbies and a .300 average.
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rpackrat Sep 29 2005 11:33 AM |
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Wouldn't .46 of a home run mean that he's out by about 4 feet trying to stretch a single into a double?
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Willets Point Sep 29 2005 11:37 AM |
Actually he'd be out by nearly 14 and a half feet. Ouch!!
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Edgy DC Sep 29 2005 07:11 PM |
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Hey, Dale Murphy! Hearing footsteps?
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Edgy DC Sep 29 2005 07:12 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 29 2005 07:17 PM |
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Hey, Dale Murphy! Hearing footsteps?
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Valadius Sep 29 2005 07:14 PM |
You might want to move Mike above Joe Carter.
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Edgy DC Sep 29 2005 07:17 PM |
Of course. Thanks.
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Benjamin Grimm Sep 29 2005 07:22 PM |
Meanwhile, Jose Reyes has set a new club record for most at bats in a season. His 683rd at bat came in tonight's game and broke Lance Johnson's record of 682 set in 1996.
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Valadius Sep 29 2005 07:28 PM |
One of Lance's '96 records has fallen. Egads.
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Edgy DC Sep 29 2005 07:44 PM |
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Cliff chasing... Buddy Harrelson?
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Valadius Sep 29 2005 07:53 PM |
Glavine is now tied with Frisella at 296 Met K's.
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soupcan Sep 30 2005 07:09 AM |
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.307, 26, 100. I love this kid.
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Edgy DC Sep 30 2005 07:39 AM |
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Kind of pointless to project to the end of the season, when every starting pitcher but Benson, Seo, and Zambrano are finished, but I will anyway.
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Edgy DC Sep 30 2005 12:59 PM |
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The next hit makes Piazza a top-five Met hitman.
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Edgy DC Oct 01 2005 08:48 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Oct 01 2005 09:00 PM |
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Tonight's update starts with Robocop
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Valadius Oct 01 2005 08:53 PM |
Why is it projecting Berto to lose saves?
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Edgy DC Oct 01 2005 09:00 PM |
An error on my part, now fixed.
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MLB Stolen Base Leaders, 2005
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cooby Oct 01 2005 09:18 PM |
Jose could have a real big honking day tomorrow and still catch Cedeno.
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Valadius Oct 02 2005 03:05 PM |
Now we can do rankings without projections! Hooray!
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Edgy DC Oct 02 2005 04:00 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2005 05:33 PM |
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Dissing the projections. Ouch.
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duan Oct 02 2005 04:40 PM |
Sal would call me an idiot, but I want Piazza back. A 3 headed catching 1b, ph troika of Castro, Jacobs and Piazza would be nice if there's no hope of a Delgado type signing on the FA market.
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Valadius Oct 02 2005 05:58 PM |
I'm not dissing them, it's just that I haven't been here for the off-season yet, where such things exist.
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metsmarathon Oct 02 2005 07:46 PM |
well, we could always project for next year...
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Edgy DC Oct 02 2005 07:48 PM |
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Nymr83 Oct 02 2005 08:22 PM |
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the same posts will be repeated every few days for 6 months...offseasons suck.
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Valadius Oct 02 2005 08:24 PM |
And your final 2005 New York Mets team leaders are:
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Valadius Oct 02 2005 09:19 PM |
That took me perhaps two-to-three hours of research.
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Edgy DC Oct 02 2005 10:27 PM |
Looking at that OpS chart, just so you know, Jose Reyes is approxiamately 33rd all-time for the Mets. David Wright, if had 1000 at-bats to qualify, would be third.
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SI Metman Oct 02 2005 11:01 PM |
Looking back at Edgy's chart for rookie homers, I believe Jake will still have his rookie eligibility next season. Perhaps he makes it twice on that list...
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Valadius Oct 02 2005 11:08 PM |
He had only 100 at-bats this season.
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Johnny Dickshot Oct 03 2005 05:35 AM |
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Thanks.
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Frayed Knot Oct 03 2005 08:57 AM |
Team Record - Tied for 5th in NL (83-79)
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Elster88 Oct 03 2005 09:26 AM |
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Yep, Gary confirmed it yesterday in the post-game.
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Elster88 Oct 03 2005 09:31 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 03 2005 09:33 AM |
All Time Met Hit Batsmen in a Single Season
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Valadius Oct 03 2005 09:32 AM |
One telling stat from my data table is Jose Reyes's pitches per plate appearance. 2660/733 = 3.63 pitches per plate appearance. That's just sad.
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rpackrat Oct 03 2005 12:45 PM |
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I don't see where it's all that sad. That ranks him 4th best on the team in that category (after Wright, Beltran, and Floyd), and 101st in the major leagues (47th in the NL). I'd certainly like to see him draw more walks, but the number of pitches he's seeing is not particularly low.
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Edgy DC Oct 03 2005 12:56 PM |
Two stolen bases on the last day clinched the Major League lead for Chone Figgins. Jose Reyes --- wiped out by a first-pitch double-play grounder by Carlos Beltran in his only baserunning appearance on Sunday --- finished as the National League champ.
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Frayed Knot Oct 03 2005 12:58 PM |
I agree and was just about to comment that that (pitches/AB) number didn't seem particularly low.
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Valadius Oct 03 2005 02:19 PM |
In terms of being a leadoff man, though, it's not particularly wonderful, and it would be nice to see his OBP rise to at least the .350 mark. He needs to draw more walks.
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Frayed Knot Oct 03 2005 02:31 PM |
Sure, he's gotta get that OBP up.
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Johnny Dickshot Oct 03 2005 02:38 PM |
I'd be inclined to think that Torre's been around the block enough to know that calling violations of the unwritten rules is weak but is doing what he can to support a team of paranoid billionaire crybabies like Gayrod (not to mention Steinbrenner), and that only the most easily duped, pandering media types (Suzie, Sterling, Kay) swallow it whole.
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Edgy DC Oct 18 2005 01:54 PM |
Dickie's post above seems to be in the wrong thread, but I like it.
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MFS62 Oct 29 2005 02:20 PM |
In his book "Countdown to Super Bowl" about SB III, Dave Anderson wrote that when Jet coach Weeb Eubank saw his old quarterback Johnny Unitas enter the game for the Colts, he said to himself "No interceptions now, John".
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Nymr83 Oct 29 2005 03:11 PM |
i'd be all in favor of it...provided the mets had a 5-0 lead and it was a solo-shot.
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TheOldMole Oct 30 2005 09:28 AM |
What NYM said. And I gotta tell you, if it was a walk-off gamer, I'd still have mixed feelings. I'll always root for Mike.
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Edgy DC Nov 26 2005 09:44 PM |
And, in what appear to be their peak rankings, Mike Jacobs leaves as the 340th-greatest all-time Met, Mike Cameron as the 93rd-greatest.
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Edgy DC Dec 11 2005 03:29 PM |
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