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d'Kong76
Jun 07 2005 06:42 PM

d'Kong76
Aug 04 2005 05:40 PM

Johnny Dickshot
Nov 29 2005 07:33 AM

Wow. I just finished a review of the 1963 season. Re-reading this discussion was great.

Edgy MD
Nov 29 2005 08:17 AM

I just retro-fitted my tables with exciting borders for clearer reading.

Frayed Knot
Nov 24 2006 08:20 AM


1963 Rankings
POINTSPLAYER
30Ron Hunt
29Carl Willey
28Roger Craig
27Jim Hickman
26Al Jackson
25Duke Snider
24Frank Thomas
23Larry Bearnarth
22Tim Harkness
21Galen Cisco
20Tracy Stallard
19Charlie Neal
18Jay Hook
17Al Moran
16Rod Kanehl
15Jim Hicks
14Ed Kranepool
13Choo Choo Coleman
12Grover Powell
11Jesse Gonder
10Joe Christopher
9Ken McKenzie
8Duke Carmel
7Pumpsie Green
6Don Rowe
5Jimmy Piersall
4Chico Fernandez
3Hawk Taylor
2Cliff Cook
1Norm Sherry

Edgy MD
Dec 01 2006 09:01 AM

OK, we have some significant disparities in this one. The top ten match up but we have big differences in the middle, particularly with Jay Hook. It might have been me screwing around, but I should have at least noted changes I imposed onto the spreadsheet in the thread.

1963 Rankings
POINTSPLAYERSPREADSHEET SEZ:
30Ron HuntRon Hunt
29Carl WilleyCarl Willey
28Roger CraigRoger Craig
27Jim HickmanJim Hickman
26Al JacksonAl Jackson
25Duke SniderDuke Snider
24Frank ThomasFrank Thomas
23Larry BearnarthLarry Bearnarth
22Tim HarknessTim Harkness
21Galen CiscoGalen Cisco
20Tracy StallardTracy Stallard
19Charlie NealCharlie Neal
18Jay HookAl Moran (+1)
17Al MoranGrover Powell (+5)
16Rod KanehlJoe Hicks (+1)
15Jim (actually Joe) HicksJesse Gonder (+4)
14Ed KranepoolDuke Carmel (+6)
13Choo Choo ColemanEd Kranepool =orange](-1)
12Grover PowellRod Kanehl =orange](-4)
11Jesse GonderDon Rowe (+5)
10Joe ChristopherJoe Christopher
9Ken McKenzieKen McKenzie
8Duke CarmelJay Hook =orange](-10)
7Pumpsie GreenChoo Choo Coleman =orange](-6)
6Don RowePumpsie Green =orange](-1)
5Jimmy PiersallJimmy Piersall
4Chico FernandezChico Fernandez
3Hawk TaylorSammy Taylor
(Hawk didn't appear until '64)
2Cliff CookCliff Cook
1Norm SherryNorm Sherry

Edgy MD
Dec 04 2006 07:14 AM

OK, we have a minor crisis here. Which is the authentic table?

OE: On first glance, mine looks like it was culled from JG's 40-man list above.

Frayed Knot
Dec 04 2006 07:17 AM

Assume that yours is correct.

MFS62
Dec 04 2006 07:36 AM

I usually don't get into the rankings, even though I saw every Mets team play. But here are some things about that 1963 season that you might find interesting:

The Mets search for a regular third baseman throughout their history has been oft mentioned. The thread above mentions Jim Hickman, and he is rated highly. But does anyone remember that Hickman played the second most games at third for the Mets that year? He played 59 games there, and had a fielding pct of .914 (not good).
Charlie Neal, who most think of as a second baseman, played 66 games at third in 1963, and had a .963 fielding pct.
To put that into perspective, a player remembered as one of the best fielding third baseman ever, the Yankees' Cletis Boyer, had a .954 fielding percentage that same year.

Later

Edgy MD
Dec 04 2006 08:02 PM

1963 Rankings
POINTSPLAYER
30Ron Hunt
29Carl Willey
28Roger Craig
27Jim Hickman
26Al Jackson
25Duke Snider
24Frank Thomas
23Larry Bearnarth
22Tim Harkness
21Galen Cisco
20Tracy Stallard
19Charlie Neal
18Al Moran
17Grover Powell
16Joe Hicks
15Jesse Gonder
14Duke Carmel
13Ed Kranepool
12Rod Kanehl
11Don Rowe
10Joe Christopher
9Ken McKenzie
8Jay Hook
7Choo Choo Coleman
6Pumpsie Green
5Jimmy Piersall
4Chico Fernandez
3Sammy Taylor
2Cliff Cook
1Norm Sherry

Johnny Dickshot
Dec 04 2006 08:15 PM

Why are all these getting re-done?

Edgy MD
Dec 04 2006 09:11 PM

They're not. Knot is just posting them as tables to confirm that we all have the same list.

We generally do, we didn't for 1963.