Politics Are Still Loco: 2024

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Re: Politics Are Still Loco: 2024

Post by Benjamin Grimm » Thu Feb 08, 2024 10:58 am

I don't think we're using the term "heiny" correctly here. Neither Lorena Bobbit nor Lauren Boebert (I had never before noticed the similarity of their names) were focused on the buttocks, but instead on the anterior region.
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Re: Politics Are Still Loco: 2024

Post by whippoorwill » Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:34 am

Honestly she needs a name change. I was seriously asking.
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Re: Politics Are Still Loco: 2024

Post by whippoorwill » Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:35 am

Oh, hiney is interchangeable with me lol
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Re: Politics Are Still Loco: 2024

Post by TransMonk » Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:36 pm

The Supreme Court heard arguments around the state of Colorado looking to bar Trump from the ballot based on the 14th Amendment.

Honestly, I thought the Trump lawyers presented their argument well and the lawyers for CO did not.

My prediction is that the court will rule fairly heavily (maybe unanimously) that CO cannot bar Trump from being on the ballot because states do not have authority to bar a federal candidate.
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Re: Politics Are Still Loco: 2024

Post by Edgy MD » Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:58 pm

All reporting is suggesting that they appear poised to heavily rule against restricting his heinie from the ballot.
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Re: Politics Are Still Loco: 2024

Post by Benjamin Grimm » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:05 pm

Disappointing, but not surprising.
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Re: Politics Are Still Loco: 2024

Post by metsmarathon » Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:16 pm

in fariness, all the red states would rule that biden's "open borders" or "healthcare" are also an insurrection.

think the court'll throw us all a curveball and rule that while colorado cannot bar trump from it's federal election, because he in in fact an insurrectionist, trump is ineligible for all ballots.

naaaah....
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Re: Politics Are Still Loco: 2024

Post by Fman99 » Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:56 pm

I'm also focused on the anterior region
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Post by Edgy MD » Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:01 pm

metsmarathon wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:16 pm in fariness, all the red states would rule that biden's "open borders" or "healthcare" are also an insurrection.
"In fariness."

Fun word.
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Re: Politics Are Still Loco: 2024

Post by metirish » Thu Feb 08, 2024 6:44 pm

Special Counsel Hur deciding not to move forward on Biden , but then dropping bombs about his memory recall could be devastating and looks like a hit job.
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Post by Frayed Knot » Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:13 pm

The Special Counsel, appointed by Biden's appointed Attorney General and sworn to legal judgements rather than partisan politics, reports
that Biden answered questions incorrectly such as to when his term as VP both began and ended, as well as the year of the death of son
Beau (off "by several years" according to reports).
Unless we hear evidence that any of those claims about memory and comprehension are inaccurate, I don't think it smells like a hit job at all.
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Post by Bob Alpacadaca » Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:33 pm

The Wall Street Journal, directly quoting the report:
Mr. Hur also says Mr. Biden would likely present himself as a forgetful old man, the way he presented himself to Mr. Hur’s prosecutors.

And it’s on this point where the report becomes more politically than legally damaging. As Mr. Hur puts it: “Mr. Biden’s memory also appeared to have significant limitations—both at the time he spoke to [his ghost writer Mark] Zwonitzer in 2017, as evidenced by their recorded conversations, and today, as evidenced by his recorded interview with our office. Mr. Biden’s recorded conversations with Zwonitzer from 2017 are often painfully slow, with Mr. Biden struggling to remember events and straining at times to read and relay his own notebook entries.

“In his interview with our office, Mr. Biden’s memory was worse. He did not remember when he was vice president, forgetting on the first day of the interview when his term ended (‘if it was 2013—when did I stop being Vice President?’), and forgetting on the second day of the interview when his term began (‘in 2009, am I still Vice President?’). He did not remember, even within several years, when his son Beau died. And his memory appeared hazy when describing the Afghanistan debate that was once so important to him,” Mr. Hur writes.

If Mr. Biden is that forgetful, how can he fulfill his presidential duties for another four years? Democrats have some hard thinking to do about his candidacy.
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:40 pm

Bob Alpacadaca wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:33 pm The Wall Street Journal, directly quoting the report:
Mr. Hur also says Mr. Biden would likely present himself as a forgetful old man, the way he presented himself to Mr. Hur’s prosecutors.

And it’s on this point where the report becomes more politically than legally damaging. As Mr. Hur puts it: “Mr. Biden’s memory also appeared to have significant limitations—both at the time he spoke to [his ghost writer Mark] Zwonitzer in 2017, as evidenced by their recorded conversations, and today, as evidenced by his recorded interview with our office. Mr. Biden’s recorded conversations with Zwonitzer from 2017 are often painfully slow, with Mr. Biden struggling to remember events and straining at times to read and relay his own notebook entries.

“In his interview with our office, Mr. Biden’s memory was worse. He did not remember when he was vice president, forgetting on the first day of the interview when his term ended (‘if it was 2013—when did I stop being Vice President?’), and forgetting on the second day of the interview when his term began (‘in 2009, am I still Vice President?’). He did not remember, even within several years, when his son Beau died. And his memory appeared hazy when describing the Afghanistan debate that was once so important to him,” Mr. Hur writes.

If Mr. Biden is that forgetful, how can he fulfill his presidential duties for another four years? Democrats have some hard thinking to do about his candidacy.
The obvious solution is to vote for Adolf Hitler instead of Biden.

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Post by Edgy MD » Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:44 pm

Not that I haven't long believed that his mental sharpness has been wanting, but handled well, this could be advantageous to President Biden.
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:56 pm

No. I think that the country should instead vote for the psychopath serial liar who, all of the time, is either committing crimes or planning to commit crimes.
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Post by MFS62 » Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:44 pm

If the court decides for Trump. it will effectively erase Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment from the Constitution. The text of the provision is clear: "A person is disqualified from being an officer of the United States if, having taken an oath to uphold the Constitution, they participate in an insurrection."
That was the point that should have been pursued today.

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Post by Frayed Knot » Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:47 pm

So you're expecting the SC to treat an act of insurrection as an already decided fact prior to him not yet being
found guilty of it but also prior to him even being charged with it? That's not how the SC generally operates.
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Post by Edgy MD » Thu Feb 08, 2024 10:08 pm

Yeah, I disagree that the Court would be erasing part of The U.S. Constitution.

There are plenty of things that are less than clear about a provision that hasn't been triggered in over a century.
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Post by Bob Alpacadaca » Thu Feb 08, 2024 10:17 pm

Perhaps what the Journal was suggesting was that the Democrats have a stronger opening to suggest to the president that he not seek a second term and have time to replace him with a more fit candidate who could potentially serve the next two terms. It might be easier to persuade the president to pass the torch because of a health issue rather than a legal one.
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Fri Feb 09, 2024 2:28 pm

Frayed Knot wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:47 pm So you're expecting the SC to treat an act of insurrection as an already decided fact prior to him not yet being
found guilty of it but also prior to him even being charged with it? That's not how the SC generally operates.
Didn't Colorado hold a pretty good hearing on whether or not Trump aided or participated in an insurrection? And wasn't Trump given a fair opportunity to appear, present evidence and defend himself in that hearing?
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Post by metirish » Fri Feb 09, 2024 2:56 pm

Bob Alpacadaca wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 10:17 pm Perhaps what the Journal was suggesting was that the Democrats have a stronger opening to suggest to the president that he not seek a second term and have time to replace him with a more fit candidate who could potentially serve the next two terms. It might be easier to persuade the president to pass the torch because of a health issue rather than a legal one.

I was watching a doc last night on Netflix and Corey Booker was on and I thought to myself wtf ever happened to him?
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metirish wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 2:56 pm I was watching a doc last night on Netflix and Corey Booker was on and I thought to myself wtf ever happened to him?
Um, nothing. He's still the senator from New Jersey. (The non-indicted one.)
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Post by metirish » Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:21 pm

Lefty Specialist wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:54 pm
metirish wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 2:56 pm I was watching a doc last night on Netflix and Corey Booker was on and I thought to myself wtf ever happened to him?
Um, nothing. He's still the senator from New Jersey. (The non-indicted one.)

Yeah I get that, thanks though

He was the rising star at one point, now nothing much
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Post by Edgy MD » Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:01 pm

I think he certainly had a moment, but momentum has been lost. He was with Rosario Dawson for a few years there.

In fairness, I tend to think that the visibility of most senators has been fading. Presidential politics be crazy, House politics be crazy, and Supreme Court politics be nuts. The drama in the Senate is Mitch McConnell going blank in public and Chuck Schumer being annoying.
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Post by Lefty Specialist » Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:13 pm

metirish wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:21 pm
Lefty Specialist wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:54 pm
metirish wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 2:56 pm I was watching a doc last night on Netflix and Corey Booker was on and I thought to myself wtf ever happened to him?
Um, nothing. He's still the senator from New Jersey. (The non-indicted one.)

Yeah I get that, thanks though

He was the rising star at one point, now nothing much
Yeah, being non-crazy just doesn't get the attention it used to. He ran for president, found nobody was interested, and went back to work. He's not the greatest senator ever, but at least he votes the right way on everything and doesn't embarrass me.
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