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="Edgy DC":1e3jaef0]Well, I heartily concur that there haven't been enough visible consequences for fundamental mental errors. I don't think that can be made up in one grand gesture, though.
Got to give the Yankee runners credit. They ran. It may seem like an award for walking erect, but apparently it's not automatic.[/quote:1e3jaef0]
That's what kinda gets me... if the situation were reversed, I don't think the Mets win. Because the Mets probably wouldn't be running.
I need to stop thinking about this game. Really.
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Frayed Knot
Jun 13 2009 04:57 AM
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So who are these "professional" teams that have essentially fired a player for an on-field error -- especially one due $15mil with no logical replacement?
And, while we're at it, I missed the calls to release Delgado, Sheffield, Castro & Murphy for their easy drops earlier in the season. Or for Church when he missed 3rd.
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seawolf17
Jun 13 2009 05:12 AM
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="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":12yogybj]="Edgy DC":12yogybj]Well, I heartily concur that there haven't been enough visible consequences for fundamental mental errors. I don't think that can be made up in one grand gesture, though.
Got to give the Yankee runners credit. They ran. It may seem like an award for walking erect, but apparently it's not automatic.[/quote:12yogybj]
That's what kinda gets me... if the situation were reversed, I don't think the Mets win. Because the Mets probably wouldn't be running.
I need to stop thinking about this game. Really.[/quote:12yogybj]
You're so right. Teixeira needs to get a ton of credit for hustle there... it's really easy to just jog it out and give up, and I thought the same thing would have happened were the roles reversed.
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metirish
Jun 13 2009 05:14 AM
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I feel terrible for Castillo, he's worked hard this season and got back in the fans good graces(if that means anything) and now this. I don't think it will ever be forgotten.
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G-Fafif
Jun 13 2009 05:14 AM
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I honestly thought "game tied, runner on third." Those bastards know how to play the game.
The case for immediate release [url=http://faithandfear.blogharbor.com/blog/_archives/2009/6/13/4220655.html:1tlb5tzu]here[/url:1tlb5tzu].
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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 13 2009 07:00 AM
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In think some people need a few days off from the Mets.
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dgwphotography
Jun 13 2009 07:33 AM
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I really think I'm one of them....
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Kong76
Jun 13 2009 07:57 AM
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I think most of us have been there at least once or twice over the years.
But FAFIF sounds like his cheese may have slid off it's cracker.
Someone please check on him ... we're here for you, man!
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bmfc1
Jun 13 2009 08:02 AM
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I'm with G-Fafif, cheese and cracker status notwithstanding. Castillo had no business being resigned, certainly no business being resigned through 2011, and shouldn't wear the Mets uniform any longer. It's one thing to drop a pop-up (as chronicled elsewhere, future HOF'er Jeff Kent cost the Mets a game that way once), but Castillo was using one hand--perhaps using two might have balanced him better and allowed him to grab the ball before it hit the ground--and then threw it to the wrong base.
I'm sure he'll be out there again today but he shouldn't be. Thing is, our GM is so bad that there's no alternative.
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Ashie62
Jun 13 2009 08:39 AM
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Umpires, Divorce lawyers and Castillo suck but they aren't going away.
Maybe Castillo thought it might go yard
I took 3 days off from the Mets..time for 2 more
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themetfairy
Jun 13 2009 08:43 AM
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I could get into a torches and pitchforks kind of mob over this.
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smg58
Jun 13 2009 08:54 AM
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="bmfc1":d3tven2u]Castillo had no business being resigned, certainly no business being resigned through 2011, and shouldn't wear the Mets uniform any longer.[/quote:d3tven2u]
Maybe, absolutely, and in an ideal world yes. But we have zero infield depth right now, and I doubt we could get any in return for him. We have to hope he redeems himself.
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MFS62
Jun 13 2009 08:54 AM
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holychicken
Jun 13 2009 09:34 AM
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="seawolf17":23h2thif]
You're so right. Teixeira needs to get a ton of credit for hustle there... it's really easy to just jog it out and give up, and I thought the same thing would have happened were the roles reversed.[/quote:23h2thif]
I am honestly not convinced about this. They were just jogging around the bases and even Teixeira himself said that he "turned it on" when he got waved around. If Castillo had thrown to home instead of second, they probably would have gotten him. . . if he had been hustling, they wouldn't have gotten him.
The ball was up in the air for a while.
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Swan Swan H
Jun 13 2009 09:42 AM
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It would be unseemly to suggest that the great and hallowed Yankees were the mere beneficiaries of a gift victory, following the failures of their closer and big-money cleanup hitter. A scenario must be concocted whereby they 'earned' it somehow, and Teixiera's 'hustle' is slightly more plausible than the gnarled ghostly hand of Miller Huggins tugging on Castillo's elbow.
OE: I'm starting to feel like Dean Wormer talking about Delta House. I should go watch an episode of 'Pushing Daisies' and chill before 4:00.
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Frayed Knot
Jun 13 2009 09:52 AM
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="holychicken"]| ="seawolf17"]
You're so right. Teixeira needs to get a ton of credit for hustle there... it's really easy to just jog it out and give up, and I thought the same thing would have happened were the roles reversed. |
I am honestly not convinced about this. They were just jogging around the bases and even Teixeira himself said that he "turned it on" when he got waved around. If Castillo had thrown to home instead of second, they probably would have gotten him. . . if he had been hustling, they wouldn't have gotten him.
The ball was up in the air for a while. |
I didn't see a camera angle showing Teixeira (and, really, why would there be one) but Ray Knight, on a play involving a huge error that some of you may remember, claimed later on that he "was busting it the entire way" when film clearly shows him doing nothing of the sort. He didn't turn on the jets until it was pointed out to him that the ball 'got by Buckner' at which point he could have crawled home and still made it.
Credit for hustle - and/or memory of it - many times gets selectively assigned.
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Edgy DC
Jun 13 2009 11:58 AM
Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jun 15 2009 10:27 AM
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We're in perspective trouble any day Ashie is the one credited with displaying his "great mind.."
How about this. This is the speach Skipper Edgy gave his troops in his dreams last night.
<blockquote>(Throw 15 bats across the clubhouse floor.)
OK, sit down. I don't want nobody heading toward the shower and it won't matter if you do because I told the clubbie to turn the water off.
First of all, Luis, I'm not going tell you you fucked up, because you know you did. But you commited two mental errors that completely undermined everything. You didn't use two hands, and you threw behind the winning run. Making an error is one thing, playing with your head up your ass is another. I shouldn't need to tell you but I apparently do. You stunk. Your teammates have stunk by making simple lazy mental plays like that --- not running balls out, one handed catches --- and I've stunk by tolerating it all without consequences for too long.
For you, you don't play the next two days, no matter how despearate I get. You show up, dress, sit on the bench, support the hell out of your stinking teammates, and go home. Other than that, this weekend is over for you. After that, we'll never speak of this. And I don't think we'll have to, because you'll be running hard, catching the ball with two hands, and keeping your stinky head in the game, right?
As for the rest of you stinks, that's our new standard. Mental errors will get you pulled from the game straight away and another day on the bench to get your fool head straight. Multiple violations will be dealt with in a more serious and humiliating manner which I haven't thought of, because I frankly don't expect there to be multiple violations, and that's a dark part of my imagination I don't like to visit until I have to.
Tonight, as I said, they'll be no showers. Razor is handing out subway cards. You'll all be putting on your street clothes over your stinky stinky bodies and taking the subway home so the good people who gave their time and money to support you tonight can ride next to you and tell you how much you stink.
Fernando, you're a fine player and hopefully will be a big league all star someday, but tonight you're taking a bus to Buffalo. Usted va al Buffalo en un autobus. I don't want you anywhere near these stinking stinks right now. It leaves from Port Authority in an hour. I know 11 hours is a long time for your stinky body to be on a bus to Buffalo, but, if you don't like it, you can get off at Binghamton. If your manager says you're hustling and playing smart, you'll be back. Otherwise, get used to the busses.
Delgado, Nieve is starting tomorrow. You make sure he gets home. The rest of you stinks are on your own. Enjoy travelling like real people and coming home to your wives all funky and shit. Personally, I think that's too good for you. I'll see you tomorrow which I fucking expect to be the hustlingest day in New York Mets history. Because if it's not, I will go apeshit.
Now I'm letting the reporters in. Tell them how much you stink. Don't hang this on Luis alone. You all have been humiliating yourselves and the city on the front of your jersey. Tell them that. Stinking stinkers.
(Overturn post-game spread.)</blockquote>How about that?
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Ashie62
Jun 13 2009 12:29 PM
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Works for me..don't think Willie would ever consider it..Now Bobby V..yes, yes he would
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MFS62
Jun 13 2009 01:10 PM
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Edgy, I hope in your dream that the window was wide open and you delivered it in your best Albert Finney voice.
Or maybe you were just channeling this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLMl0CLIDLg
Later
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Edgy DC
Jun 13 2009 01:31 PM
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No, my model is more from Vincent Gardenia's performance in <i>Bang the Drum Slowly</i>. If you notice, I withhold the shower, rather than chase them into the shower. And I avoid exclamation points.
I can't lose my temper anymore. Just can't.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 13 2009 05:36 PM
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Is this position looking silly yet?
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metirish
Jun 13 2009 05:41 PM
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="John Cougar Lunchbucket":vio99rtk]Is this position looking silly yet?[/quote:vio99rtk]
Very ......
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Vic Sage
Jun 15 2009 10:19 AM
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fire Jerry, hire Edgy!
Now!
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Kong76
Jun 16 2009 03:10 PM
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I hope FAFIF isn't sore with us for ribbin' him.
What a weekend.
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