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Alternate Sites/Moved Series

Gwreck Sep 26 2022 08:27 AM

With the threat of Hurricane-related weather complications, there is a non-zero chance of needing to play the games against the Braves somewhere else. Neutral sites available this weekend include domed stadiums in Miami and Tampa (though Tampa could also be hit by the hurricane) as well as Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, and Philadelphia. Miami may be preferred since Atlanta is headed there anyway to finish the season. Precedent for moving games due to Hurricane: 2004: Marlins vs Expos, at Comiskey Park in Chicago 2008: Houston vs Cubs, at Miller Park in Milwaukee 2017: Houston vs Texas, at Tropicana Field in Tampa 2017: Tampa vs Yankees, at Citi Field Additionally, there is also precedent to just move these games to Citi Field (the Braves can play as the “home team”): 2010: because of the G20 Summit, three Phillies at Blue Jays games were moved to Philadelphia. 2011: because of scheduling conflicts regarding time required to construct the stage for a U2 concert, 3 Mariners at Marlins games were moved to Seattle.

Edgy MD Sep 26 2022 08:33 AM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

I think Baltimore would be objectively nice.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 26 2022 08:41 AM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

I vote for Philadelphia. Do we think this is something that might actually happen?

Ceetar Sep 26 2022 08:57 AM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

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Edgy MD Sep 26 2022 09:03 AM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I vote for Philadelphia. We get to vote?!

Benjamin Grimm Sep 26 2022 10:27 AM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

NWS forecast not looking too bad, so far: Friday: A 40 percent chance of showers, mainly after 8am. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 67. Friday Night: A 40 percent chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 58. Saturday: A 40 percent chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 70. Saturday Night: A 20 percent chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 59. Sunday: A 20 percent chance of showers. Mostly sunny, with a high near 75. Maybe Friday gets postponed with a doubleheader on Sunday. Unless the forecast starts looking a lot worse, I doubt that they'll move the series to another city.

Fman99 Sep 26 2022 10:51 AM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

The whole system could trend west and head for the TX/LA/MS coast, too, it's still pretty early to guess what ultimate path this thing will take.

bmfc1 Sep 26 2022 11:34 AM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

WSH is home against PHI so PHI is available as is BAL (hangout at Edgy's!).

Edgy MD Sep 26 2022 11:52 AM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

How do they do this? Do they honor trade-ins on tickets already sold in Atlanta first or do they start fresh? Do the tickets get exclusively sold digitally through Atlanta's sales department or can I show up at Camden's ticket window? As the Braves are the home team, does Georgia have legal jurisdiction? Will Atlanta fans doing The Chop be subject to Maryland racial harassment laws and ordinances? Would The Oriole Bird have to surrender his office to the Braves' Johnny-come-lately mascot Blooper? Would the Georgia flag be flown? Will Atlanta's retired numbers be displayed? If the Braves clinch, do Atlanta fans, as the home team supporters, get to run amok in downtown Baltimore?

Willets Point Sep 26 2022 12:06 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

Fenway Park is available that weekend and considering the Braves' Boston heritage and the maximum safe distance Eastern Time Zone location from the hurricane, it's the only logical choice.

kcmets Sep 26 2022 12:30 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

I propose the entire series be moved here, just to be on the safe side.

Willets Point Sep 26 2022 02:03 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

The "cool breeze off the River" is a strong selling point.

bmfc1 Sep 26 2022 02:10 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Atlanta+GA?canonicalCityId=508c6a2d4ca8386de1772c4316073b1448fb270ee2d264d01c7b2a4b33073688 From this, perhaps a rainout on Friday, they play on Saturday, and a D/N DH on Sunday? Sunday's game is mandated for 7:10 due to ESPN.

Ceetar Sep 26 2022 02:18 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Atlanta+GA?canonicalCityId=508c6a2d4ca8386de1772c4316073b1448fb270ee2d264d01c7b2a4b33073688 From this, perhaps a rainout on Friday, they play on Saturday, and a D/N DH on Sunday? Sunday's game is mandated for 7:10 due to ESPN. it says 70% of rain Friday, steady rain, potential for heavy rainfall. 90% friday night. 90% Saturday. 70% Saturday night. 60% chance of rain Sunday day, 'showers early becoming numerous later'. Does drop to 30% by Sunday night. The storm could move some, but it's almost unavoidable that there's going to be at least tropical storm strength winds and likely a lot of rain. They do need to think about how they're going to fit these games in

Gwreck Sep 26 2022 03:46 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

One would expect the Braves would think carefully about what serves them best. Obviously there is a financial component with big crowds expected for all 3 games. But if there were to be 2 days of washouts, a doubleheader on Sunday would still leave a meaningful game to be made up. Making up that game on Thursday, October 6 would be very unappealing to the losing team (which would have to play the wild card series starting the next day). There is also the possibility it won't matter, but that's not going to be known in advance. Interestingly, the Mets and Braves both have an off day Thursday. They conceivably consider moving Friday's game forward one day if Friday weather looked like a washout.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 27 2022 02:59 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

Latest from the National Weather Service: Friday: A 40 percent chance of showers. Partly sunny, with a high near 71. Friday Night: A 50 percent chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 58. Saturday: Showers likely. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 68. Chance of precipitation is 60%. Saturday Night: A 40 percent chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 58. Sunday: A 40 percent chance of showers. Partly sunny, with a high near 70. Sunday Night: A 20 percent chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 58.

Frayed Knot Sep 27 2022 03:03 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

Biggest problem with this storm is that it's moving at a snail's pace which means both higher rain totals wherever it passes and multiple days of lousy weather instead of just one.

MFS62 Sep 27 2022 03:08 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

Don Shula would have been happy about a wet field. Later

bmfc1 Sep 27 2022 03:23 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

There is a State of Emergency for Georgia effective on Thursday.

Ceetar Sep 27 2022 03:31 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

depending on timing this could end up impacting the Mets vs Nats series to end the season too

Edgy MD Sep 27 2022 03:49 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

I imagine the Nats don't have a sold-out crowd hungry for action. They could move that series to Fukuoka and there wouldn't be a whole lot of fan complaint.

MFS62 Sep 27 2022 03:57 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

Edgy MD wrote: I imagine the Nats don't have a sold-out crowd hungry for action. They could move that series to Fukuoka and there wouldn't be a whole lot of fan complaint. Fukuoka them and their fans. Later

Edgy MD Sep 27 2022 05:15 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

Well, that's not my position, but I'm simply suggesting that the the Braves have far more pressure to deliver on what they've sold.

Gwreck Sep 28 2022 12:27 AM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

The Nationals games referenced above (vs Mets) are at Citi Field. I don't see a situation in which those are affected (unless there's bad weather in NY).

Ceetar Sep 28 2022 06:43 AM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

=Gwreck post_id=108870 time=1664346443 user_id=56] The Nationals games referenced above (vs Mets) are at Citi Field. I don't see a situation in which those are affected (unless there's bad weather in NY).

well it looks like it's going more inland now, but the timing of the hurricane would probably have the remnants over NY.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 28 2022 06:49 AM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

According to this article, they're not considering a change in venue: MLB discussing contingency plans for Mets-Braves series Options include shifting Friday's game to a matinee and/or scheduling a split doubleheader on Sunday. Though not a desirable option, the teams could also make up one or more games on Thursday, Oct. 6, the day after the regular season is set to conclude, if those games are necessary to decide the NL East title.

Fman99 Sep 28 2022 07:31 AM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

Split doubleheaders suck. Fuck these teams and MLB for squeezing every last nickel out of fans during a hurricane.

Edgy MD Sep 28 2022 07:34 AM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

Moving Friday up and pushing two games to Sunday seemed to me like it was going to be the plan they go for. I'm not thinking it's going to work and this may be a one-game series. Things don't just return to normal after a hurricane. They may end up stuck in town.

Gwreck Sep 28 2022 08:00 AM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

=Fman99 post_id=108878 time=1664371899 user_id=86] Split doubleheaders suck. Fuck these teams and MLB for squeezing every last nickel out of fans during a hurricane.

This is misguided. The Braves already sold essentially all of the tickets to all 3 games. You can't reschedule as a single-admission doubleheader without screwing a full stadium's worth of ticketholders.

Fman99 Sep 28 2022 08:49 AM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

=Gwreck post_id=108883 time=1664373645 user_id=56] =Fman99 post_id=108878 time=1664371899 user_id=86] Split doubleheaders suck. Fuck these teams and MLB for squeezing every last nickel out of fans during a hurricane.

This is misguided. The Braves already sold essentially all of the tickets to all 3 games. You can't reschedule as a single-admission doubleheader without screwing a full stadium's worth of ticketholders.


Fuck those fans too then. Them and their stupid racist tomahawk chant. They can all eat bear shit.

Ceetar Sep 28 2022 08:51 AM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

they're screwing them anyway by not being proactive and/or clear about plans. Yes, hurricanes can be unpredictable, but EVERYONE can see the damn thing coming, and pretending like it's all gonna be normal isn't great customer service either. It's Wednesday now, which means creative plans like trying to flex to tomorrow or starting even a few hours earlier on Friday are harder to pull off. (spoiler: TV networks don't want them to start games earlier)

TransMonk Sep 28 2022 10:57 AM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

Agreed, but MLB will hold their breath and cross their fingers that a) the storms don't postpone more than one of the NYM/ATL games and b) when they reschedule the postponements for 10/6, any games may not be necessary. If the Mets were to play a game (or two!) on 10/6 to decide the division AND the Mets fall to the #1 WC, they would need to immediately fly home to host the first game of the WC series on 10/7, no?

Benjamin Grimm Sep 28 2022 12:25 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

Yes. All four Wild Card series are scheduled to be played on Friday, Saturday and Sunday, October 7 through 9. The Division Series begins on Tuesday the 11th.

Gwreck Sep 28 2022 01:34 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

Tim Healey of Newsday reporting: [BLOCKQUOTE]All of these are in play for Mets-Atlanta this weekend, according to a source: * changing the Friday game from night to day * a split doubleheader Sunday * using next Thursday (Oct. 6) to make up one or two games if they are needed to decide the NL East[/BLOCKQUOTE] https://twitter.com/timbhealey/status/1575205575516106752?s=46&t=YzvVWVlVqiJdAtDzpSpPzQ —- Needless to say, expecting these teams to play 1 (or 2!) games on 10/6 is completely unreasonable.

Edgy MD Sep 28 2022 01:40 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

Two other options (but nobody asked me): [list=1] Both teams are off tomorrow. Why not have them fly in on Thursday and start the series early? [*]Both teams finish off their season against also-rans. Why not have the teams stick around on Monday, push back the less consequential series and finish the series late? If it's necessary or desireable that those subsequent, season-closing series include all three games, they can play a Wednesday doubleheader or add a Thursday game with no team having to turn around and fly in for a one-off. [/list]

Benjamin Grimm Sep 28 2022 02:04 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

I get the impression that they considered and dismissed option 1. Option 2 is interesting.

bmfc1 Sep 28 2022 03:17 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

According to Mike Puma, the Mets offered to move today's game to 4 PM and play tomorrow night and ATL refused. F them.

Frayed Knot Sep 28 2022 03:23 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

I think they should play through the hurricane. It might not be pretty baseball but it might be fun to watch ... y'know, from the dry, warm safety of my couch.

Marshmallowmilkshake Sep 28 2022 03:28 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

=bmfc1 post_id=108921 time=1664399859 user_id=73] According to Mike Puma, the Mets offered to move today's game to 4 PM and play tomorrow night and ATL refused. F them.

The Braves seem to do a lot of things that just invite bad karma. Mocking the trumpets, Cano, this type of thing. It's gotta catch up with them at some point, no?

Gwreck Sep 28 2022 03:40 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

Don't forget the racist chants. Lots of bad juju in that place.

Fman99 Sep 28 2022 03:41 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

=bmfc1 post_id=108921 time=1664399859 user_id=73] According to Mike Puma, the Mets offered to move today's game to 4 PM and play tomorrow night and ATL refused. F them.

Twats

Frayed Knot Sep 28 2022 03:45 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

I wonder if their refusal has anything to do with their rotation. They've used scrubs/call-ups the last two nights (and won anyway) so as to set up their pitchers for the Met series. Maybe a re-jiggering of the sked would have upset their plans. Just throwing out a guess.

Gwreck Sep 28 2022 04:26 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

The Braves have also played 13 games in a row without an off day. (Insert joke here about games against Washington being a half-day off).

bmfc1 Sep 28 2022 04:48 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

Gwreck cites their argument. Unstated is that if more than one game cannot be played then the Mets would have to return to ATL on the 6th.

Fman99 Sep 28 2022 05:36 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

Not playing tomorrow, with the impending weather for Friday onward, is a travesty. I don't know why the teams have any input. It should be handed down from up on high. Oh you're off? And the stadium is not in use? Guess what, suit up, ya babies

Willets Point Sep 28 2022 05:50 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

=Gwreck post_id=108934 time=1664403996 user_id=56] The Braves have also played 13 games in a row without an off day.

And they won 15 of those games.

kcmets Sep 28 2022 05:58 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

Willets Point wrote: =Gwreck post_id=108934 time=1664403996 user_id=56] The Braves have also played 13 games in a row without an off day. And they won 15 of those games.

Pretty funny, feels that way don't it?

nymr83 Sep 28 2022 07:13 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

Edgy MD wrote: Moving Friday up and pushing two games to Sunday seemed to me like it was going to be the plan they go for. I'm not thinking it's going to work and this may be a one-game series. Things don't just return to normal after a hurricane. They may end up stuck in town. Surely Steve Cohen owns a fleet of helicopters ready to evacuate the Mets directly from the Braves field?

bmfc1 Sep 28 2022 07:43 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

=Fman99 post_id=108947 time=1664408217 user_id=86] Not playing tomorrow, with the impending weather for Friday onward, is a travesty. I don't know why the teams have any input. It should be handed down from up on high. Oh you're off? And the stadium is not in use? Guess what, suit up, ya babies

The Commissioner should have dictated it but he's only in charge of lockouts.

nymr83 Sep 28 2022 08:45 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

it makes no sense. They need to tell the Braves: you can play tomorrow, or if the weather doesn't work out, you're going to playing them in New York.

kcmets Sep 28 2022 08:50 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

NOAA: 30% chance of showers on Friday, little bit of wind.

Frayed Knot Sep 28 2022 09:05 PM Re: Alternate Sites/Moved Series

Yeah, people tend to forget how far west Atlanta is (almost in the central time zone - closest MLB city is Cincinnati) so they'll probably be on the western edge of that 'cone of uncertainty' (those seem to be about as reliable as the cone of silence) so while the weather might suck, particularly Friday, I don't believe they'll be on the path of destruction (cue Barry McGuire).