You Always Remember Your First Time

Which first time Hall of Fame nominees would you vote for?

Carlos Gonzalez
0
No votes
Curtis Granderson
2
4%
Felix Hernandez
7
15%
Adam Jones
0
No votes
Ian Kinsler
2
4%
Russell Martin
0
No votes
Brian McCann
1
2%
Dustin Pedroia
1
2%
Hanley Ramirez
1
2%
Fernando Rodney
0
No votes
CC Sabathia
6
13%
Ichiro Suzuki
25
54%
Troy Tulowitzki
1
2%
Ben Zobrist
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 46
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Cowtipper
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Re: You Always Remember Your First Time

Post by Cowtipper » Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:42 am

It only ever seems to be a flawed system when the guy someone wants in doesn't get in or the outcome someone wants doesn't happen.
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Re: You Always Remember Your First Time

Post by batmagadanleadoff » Sun Jan 26, 2025 2:14 pm

Cowtipper wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:42 am It only ever seems to be a flawed system when the guy someone wants in doesn't get in or the outcome someone wants doesn't happen.
Not really. If there are 11 Hank Aarons on the ballot, eleven candidates who clearly belong in the HOF, then it's understandable that one of those eleven might not get inducted, given that each voter may only vote for 10 candidates.

Here's the 1982 HOF vote tallies:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/awar ... 1982.shtml

Nine voters omitted Aaron from their ballots. 45 voters couldn't bring themselves to vote for Frank Robinson.

I wonder why.
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Re: You Always Remember Your First Time

Post by Edgy MD » Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:43 am

There was a very different electorate in 1982. The group has since been pared down considerably. Fewer 98 year olds who haven't written in 25 years.

There were also writers back then who only covered baseball for a short part of their career, but whose BBWAA membership somehow stayed active, even though most of their career might have been on a boxing beat, or restaurants, or dance.
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Re: You Always Remember Your First Time

Post by batmagadanleadoff » Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:26 pm

Edgy MD wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:43 am There was a very different electorate in 1982. The group has since been pared down considerably. Fewer 98 year olds who haven't written in 25 years.

There were also writers back then who only covered baseball for a short part of their career, but whose BBWAA membership somehow stayed active, even though most of their career might have been on a boxing beat, or restaurants, or dance.
So what? That doesn't justify excluding Aaron and Robinson from the HOF ballot.
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Re: You Always Remember Your First Time

Post by Edgy MD » Mon Jan 27, 2025 4:47 pm

I didn't exclude them. Nor did I justify excluding them.
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