MFY Season of Doom 2025

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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Mon Mar 31, 2025 1:22 pm

Frayed Knot wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 12:59 pm

The theory behind this is to get a better result when getting jammed by a pitch.
My understanding is that a "torpedo" bat has a weightier sweet spot. Some of the bat's mass has been transferred to the sweet spot, the area on the bat that batters desire to hit the ball with. Balls struck at the sweet spot will now carry faster and farther. This has nothing to do with batters hitting the ball better while jammed.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/624308 ... intrigued/

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/624091 ... home-runs/

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/624186 ... t-marlins/
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Re: MFY Season of Doom 2025

Post by batmagadanleadoff » Mon Mar 31, 2025 1:25 pm

Centerfield wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 9:42 pm So then pitch them outer half.
Channel9 wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 11:13 am If the bats actually are making a difference expect pitchers to adjust.

End of story.
Youse mean pitchers should avoid pitching to the sweet spot? That's what pitchers have been doing, or trying to do, since baseball was invented.
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Re: MFY Season of Doom 2025

Post by Frayed Knot » Mon Mar 31, 2025 4:12 pm

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 1:22 pm My understanding is that a "torpedo" bat has a weightier sweet spot. Some of the bat's mass has been transferred to the sweet spot, the area on the bat that batters desire to hit the ball with. Balls struck at the sweet spot will now carry faster and farther. This has nothing to do with batters hitting the ball better while jammed.
It's more like the weight/sweet spot has been shifted.
The fattest part of these new bats is now slightly closer to handle causing the previously fattest part to start to taper a bit towards the very end.
You can always make a bigger sweet spot merely by adding more wood. But of course more wood means more weight which is not what most hitters want, plus there are upper limits on both weight and length. This bat simply takes some of the heft from the end and shifts it inward while keeping the weight more or less the same although a 'torpedo' bat may feel lighter than a same weight traditional one because the weightier portion is now closer to the hands.

A ball now hit off the 'new' sweet spot isn't going to have anymore juice behind it than one previously hit off the traditional sweet spot since it's not a bigger barrel, it's just a slightly relocated barrel. In fact it might even have somewhat less oomph since the center of the bat is traveling more slowly than the end no matter how fat or thin it is. But for those players who feel that that they make contact towards the middle of the bat more often than they do off the traditional barrel (and in this age of hard throwers that's not hard to fathom) then maybe the new design could help them make more solid contact more often, or even just stay alive in an AB more often.
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Re: MFY Season of Doom 2025

Post by batmagadanleadoff » Mon Mar 31, 2025 4:23 pm

Frayed Knot wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 4:12 pm
batmagadanleadoff wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 1:22 pm My understanding is that a "torpedo" bat has a weightier sweet spot. Some of the bat's mass has been transferred to the sweet spot, the area on the bat that batters desire to hit the ball with. Balls struck at the sweet spot will now carry faster and farther. This has nothing to do with batters hitting the ball better while jammed.


A ball now hit off the 'new' sweet spot isn't going to have anymore juice behind it than one previously hit off the traditional sweet spot since it's not a bigger barrel, it's just a slightly relocated barrel. In fact it might even have somewhat less oomph since the center of the bat is traveling more slowly than the end no matter how fat or thin it is.
"He invented the “Torpedo” barrel. It brings more wood - and mass - to where you most often make contact as a hitter."

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/624308 ... intrigued/

I think we're both right.

"The bats — with their torpedo-like shape — are custom-made to player preferences and are designed so that the densest part of the bat is where that particular hitter most often makes contact with the baseball, said Leanhardt, who became a field coordinator with the Miami Marlins in the offseason."

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/624186 ... t-marlins/
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Post by MFS62 » Mon Mar 31, 2025 4:25 pm

Frayed Knot wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 4:12 pm But for those players who feel that that they make contact towards the middle of the bat more often than they do off the traditional barrel (and in this age of hard throwers that's not hard to fathom) then maybe the new design could help them make more solid contact more often, or even just stay alive in an AB more often.
As Yogi said, "Half of this game is 90% mental".
The change makes them feel more confident.
But from a Physics standpoint, FK is right - the more mass toward the end of the bat generates more power (assuming contact) if the sweet spot is out there.
My science* starts to dim out when I try to figure if there will be more broken bats when the hitter gets jammed with the new shaped bats.
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Re: MFY Season of Doom 2025

Post by Frayed Knot » Mon Mar 31, 2025 5:33 pm

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 4:23 pm "The bats — with their torpedo-like shape — are custom-made to player preferences and are designed so that the densest part of the bat is where that particular hitter most often makes contact with the baseball, said Leanhardt, who became a field coordinator with the Miami Marlins in the offseason."
Right, because hitting the ball on the traditional sweet spot -- what modern lingo likes to call "barreling it up" -- is hard. Great when it happens, but not easy to do often. So if/when a hitter finds out that, despite wanting to make contract THERE, where he actually makes contact most often is HERE, then you re-shape the bat so as to shift more wood towards that spot. Again, not a bigger sweet spot but a readjusted one that the hitter will hopefully find more often.

Will there be more HRs as a result? Maybe, although I suspect the Yanqui numbers from this weekend are more incidental than cause & effect.
If things work as designed a hitter gets more balls on the 'barrel' but also a slower barrel. Also those balls contacting towards the end at what used to be the barrel will have the opposite case of more bat speed but less weight behind them.



My Calculus runs out when I try to figure if there will be more broken bats when the hitter gets jammed with the new shaped bats.
Theoretically there will be fewer since the heftiest part of the bat is now closer to the handle and therefore closer to the point of contact on a 'jam job'.
otoh, a pitch that is truly in "on his thumbs", as announcers like to say, is still hitting the thinnest part of the stick and will likely produce the same results and same amount of kindling.




btw, I think this topic could use some splitting off
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Re: MFY Season of Doom 2025

Post by Centerfield » Mon Mar 31, 2025 6:42 pm

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 1:25 pm
Centerfield wrote: Sun Mar 30, 2025 9:42 pm So then pitch them outer half.
Channel9 wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 11:13 am If the bats actually are making a difference expect pitchers to adjust.

End of story.
Youse mean pitchers should avoid pitching to the sweet spot? That's what pitchers have been doing, or trying to do, since baseball was invented.
Yes. But assuming it’s a regular barrel, the idea is to live on the corners. If the barrel is now middle in, then the batter should be vulnerable away.
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Re: MFY Season of Doom 2025

Post by metirish » Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:35 am

MFY resign Dom Smith
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Post by MFS62 » Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:48 am

metirish wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:35 am MFY resign Dom Smith
Memo to Dom:
The new bats won't help.

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Post by metirish » Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:23 pm

Adam Ottavino signed by the MFY, and added to active roster
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Post by Marshmallowmilkshake » Fri Apr 04, 2025 1:28 pm

The least classy fans in MLB.

Yankees fans chant ‘f–k Juan Soto’ out of nowhere with anger growing for Mets’ $765 million slugger

https://nypost.com/2025/04/04/sports/ya ... s-slugger/
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Post by Frayed Knot » Fri Apr 04, 2025 1:41 pm

metirish wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:23 pm Adam Ottavino signed by the MFY, and added to active roster
And now they've DFA'd him.
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Post by MFS62 » Fri Apr 04, 2025 1:42 pm

Marshmallowmilkshake wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 1:28 pm The least classy fans in MLB.

Yankees fans chant ‘f–k Juan Soto’ out of nowhere with anger growing for Mets’ $765 million slugger

https://nypost.com/2025/04/04/sports/ya ... s-slugger/
Bleacher creatures is too kind a description of them.
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Re: MFY Season of Doom 2025

Post by batmagadanleadoff » Fri Apr 04, 2025 1:54 pm

MFS62 wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 1:42 pm
Marshmallowmilkshake wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 1:28 pm The least classy fans in MLB.

Yankees fans chant ‘f–k Juan Soto’ out of nowhere with anger growing for Mets’ $765 million slugger

https://nypost.com/2025/04/04/sports/ya ... s-slugger/
Bleacher creatures is too kind a description of them.
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Gimme a break. This is fun. Especially to a Mets fan.
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Post by DocTee » Sat Apr 05, 2025 1:13 pm

metirish wrote: ↑Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:35 am
MFY resign Dom Smith
Memo to Dom:
The new bats won't help.
Dom batting leadoff today for the Yanks' triple A affiliate and fanned to open the game against Syracuse (Brandon Sproat).

Rough start for Dom: 0/10 with 5 K's through 2+ games.
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