WBC 2023--We'll Be Seeing You Later

[A Boy Named Seo]

For those saying Diaz wouldn't have been hurt in a postgame celebration in spring training, well obviously that's wholly true and I agree. But if you saw the actual celebration, it's apparent that the injury was a freak thing, not caused by a dog pile or something nefarious in the celebration. They were like kids doing little bunny hops and if his ACL or his achilles ruptured (please god no) doing that, then my dudes, that coulda happened climbing out of his car or walking up the steps or playing with hid kid.

[metirish]

World worst people

[Edgy MD]

Keith, man ... .

[A Boy Named Seo]

Easier to know where I stand on things when Olbermann has hot take.

It feels extremely selfish (and a bit of a shit American POV) to decry players from different places for wanting to represent their countries and call it "meaningless". It may mean nothing to Keith fucking Olbermann, but it's a huge source of pride and means a lot to a lot of players.

[Edgy MD]

It's not even really just his opinion I take issue with. I take issue with almost all of his adjectives and nouns.

[batmagadanleadoff]

"...split up teammates based on where their grandmothers got laid."

That's fucking great. I wish I wrote that before Keith did. That's a great line. Even if youse don't even agree with it.

[metirish]

Easier to know where I stand on things when Olbermann has hot take.

It feels extremely selfish (and a bit of a shit American POV) to decry players from different places for wanting to represent their countries and call it "meaningless". It may mean nothing to Keith fucking Olbermann, but it's a huge source of pride and means a lot to a lot of players.

Can't agree more, who is Keith or anyone to say what this should mean to players , very isolationist

[Centerfield]

Have no issue with players wanting to represent their country. It's just idiotic that they would hold this tournament before the season.

And I realize that there's no good time to have an injury that takes 8 months to heal, but at least you take out some of the risk if you have it in winter.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Well, players celebrate just like that in the Majors, too. I wonder if this Diaz incident will have the effect of tamping down those MLB end-of-game celebrations that often follow walk-off hits?

[nymr83]

Have no issue with players wanting to represent their country. It's just idiotic that they would hold this tournament before the season.

And I realize that there's no good time to have an injury that takes 8 months to heal, but at least you take out some of the risk if you have it in winter.

The problem is that any basketball or soccer player who keeps themself in good shape during the offseason can play in an offseason tournament, but this probably isn't the case for pitchers who have to ramp up to pitch - and then cool off again and ramp up again for spring training. I'd think most MLB teams would completely nix their pitchers throwing competitive games November through February.

I think the real answer would be an abbreviated tournament during a lengthened all-star break - only 16 teams qualify and they play Tuesday (round of 16), Wednesday (8), Friday (4), Saturday (Finals), during a Monday through Sunday all star break. the all star game would be on that off day on Thursday.

[Edgy MD]

I'd think most MLB teams would completely nix their pitchers throwing competitive games November through February.

Yes, you wrote that no team would allow any pitcher to do this, but they regularly do it already, in six or seven different fall and winter leagues.

[bmfc1]

Perhaps Adam Ottavino should now remove himself from Team USA.

[nymr83]

I'd think most MLB teams would completely nix their pitchers throwing competitive games November through February.

Yes, you wrote that no team would allow any pitcher to do this, but they regularly do it already, in six or seven different fall and winter leagues.

how many MLB pitchers compete in those leagues? - the domestic winter leagues are entirely minor leaguers. the overseas leagues have free agents/recently retired types and maybe some hitters under MLB contract - but not usually pitchers.

[Edgy MD]

how many MLB pitchers compete in those leagues?

More than a few. Less than all. Certainly more than none.

[A Boy Named Seo]

Perhaps Adam Ottavino should now remove himself from Team USA.

Why? To go participate in a different set of "exhibition" games instead? The only guarantee Adam Ottavino has to preventing an injury is don't play baseball.

[bmfc1]

So he doesn't get caught in a dogpile if Team USA wins. So the Mets, the team that is paying his salary, can supervise his spring workouts rather than strangers who have different goals. He's something like the 6th RP on Team USA (he didn't pitch last night) so they won't miss him.

[Edgy MD]

I predict he won't get caught in a victorious-but-injurious dogpile.

Heck, I'm calling Draft Kings to bet on it.

[Benjamin Grimm]

"...split up teammates based on where their grandmothers got laid."

That's fucking great. I wish I wrote that before Keith did. That's a great line. Even if youse don't even agree with it.

I agree. It's a great line.

[whippoorwill]

World worst people

Wow how dickheady is that

[metirish]

Makes sense , thoughtful from Ron

[Edgy MD]

Darling 1, Olberman 0.

[A Boy Named Seo]

Bring our players home to the safe haven of spring training NOW!!!! so that no one can get injured celebrating

[metsmarathon]

oh the humanity!

[A Boy Named Seo]

Makes sense , thoughtful from Ron

Yeah, but dudes in the 80s just didn't train year round the way they do now. Guys were using March as a time to cut back on ciggies.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Makes sense , thoughtful from Ron

You can justify anything with Darling's logic. Let's legalize bank robberies. Do you know how happy bank robbers are when they successfully walk out of a bank with $80 grand in stolen money? What bank robbery glory!