Non-NYM off-season moves

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Re: Non-NYM off-season moves

Post by metirish » Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:41 pm

Teoscar Hernandez back to the Dodgers , 3 years $66 million
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Re: Non-NYM off-season moves

Post by Frayed Knot » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:25 am

Corbin Burnes, 30, to the Diamondbacks, six years.
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Re: Non-NYM off-season moves

Post by smg58 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 8:06 am

Teoscar has had nearly identical value to Alonso over the last four seasons. So while Alonso could ask for a little bit more than that on account of being two years younger, he couldn't (or at least shouldn't) ask for a lot more.

Good job by the D-Backs of sneaking in and getting the Scottsdale native.
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Re: Non-NYM off-season moves

Post by MFS62 » Mon Dec 30, 2024 9:48 am

Nats re-sign first baseman Josh Bell.
One year deal.
Another one bites the dust.
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Re: Non-NYM off-season moves

Post by MFS62 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 6:41 pm

Trevor Williams signs with the Nats 2 years, $14 million.
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Re: Non-NYM off-season moves

Post by MFS62 » Fri Jan 03, 2025 7:45 pm

Los Angeles (N) has agreed to terms with utility player Hyeseong Kim on a three-year contract for $12.5 million with a two-year club option for 2028 and 2029.
The 25-year-old Kim, who has played the past six seasons with the KBO's Kiwoom Heroes, was the first player from South Korea and Japan to be posted this offseason and has been training in Los Angeles for the past month.

https://sports.yahoo.com/dodgers-hyeseo ... 07566.html
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Re: Non-NYM off-season moves

Post by Frayed Knot » Fri Jan 03, 2025 8:41 pm

Charlie Morton to the Orioles on a one year deal.
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Post by Edgy MD » Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:27 pm

That's a mighty old arm, but he's probably made as many starts as anybody over the last six years.

He may be the new Bartolo.
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Re: Non-NYM off-season moves

Post by Frayed Knot » Mon Jan 06, 2025 9:17 pm

MFS62 wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 7:45 pm Los Angeles (N) has agreed to terms with utility player Hyeseong Kim on a three-year contract for $12.5 million with a two-year club option for 2028 and 2029.
A move which allows the Dodgers to then deal IF, and one-time top prospect, Gavin Lux to the Reds for a competitive balance draft pick and an OF prospect.
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Post by MFS62 » Tue Jan 07, 2025 8:41 am

Frayed Knot wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 9:17 pm A move which allows the Dodgers to then deal IF, and one-time top prospect, Gavin Lux to the Reds for a competitive balance draft pick and an OF prospect.
They have to re-think the rules about competitive balance picks. LA won the fucking world series. What more "competitive balance" do they need?
If you're going to have them in the first place (isn't that what the drafts are for?) there has to be a limit on how they're used (e.g.- you can only trade them to a sub-.500 team).

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Post by Frayed Knot » Tue Jan 07, 2025 9:30 am

The 'Competitive Balance' picks are awarded to lower revenue teams and are the only type of pick that can be traded.
So if the Reds chose to give up the pick in lieu of another player in order to complete the deal for Lux then it's their call.
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Post by MFS62 » Tue Jan 07, 2025 9:56 am

I understand what they're for, and why.
The Mets even took advantage of a competitive balance draft (although it wasn't called that) when they got Jack Fisher because the league had rachmunus on them.
And Cincy must believe that the player they got will be better than anyone they might draft. But I don't think its is right to be able to trade those picks to a plus .500 team. (Maybe I'm just pissed because LA got it.)

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Post by Frayed Knot » Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:03 am

It's a future pick instead of a player who had previously been picked (or signed). I don't see how one is any more fair/moral than the other.
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Post by Benjamin Grimm » Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:20 am

I agree. The Reds were given a competitive balance pick to use as they see fit to improve their organization. To prevent them from using it to make trades with the teams that have the most talent wouldn't make sense.
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Post by Edgy MD » Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:52 am

Or just bag the draft altogether.

But no, of course you shouldn't prevent Cincinnati and LA from making the trade based on the notion that the Dodgers are too good.
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Post by MFS62 » Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:33 pm

I know. But it just irritated my sense of fairness when I read about it- the rich get richer.
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Post by Benjamin Grimm » Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:42 pm

But did they? They gave up somebody to get that draft pick. It may just as easily be the Reds who benefit from this transaction.
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Re: Non-NYM off-season moves

Post by MFS62 » Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:08 pm

Every team trades with the thought that what they got back is better than what they gave up.
They have to think they did.
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Re: Non-NYM off-season moves

Post by Frayed Knot » Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:10 pm

Lest we forget, Lux is a former 1st round draft pick (20th overall) who was one of the top prospects in baseball (#2 mlb.com, #3 Baseball Prospectus, #4 Baseball America) going into the 2020 season. Has he lived up to all that? No, but that doesn't mean he never will. He came into 2024 without a set position (LAD used him at SS, 2B, 3B, LF, and CF) or an everyday job after missing all of 2023 with an injury.
But he also just turned 27 y/o so maybe the Reds will hand him a steady slot and reap the benefits of getting him at the right time.
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Post by MFS62 » Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:29 pm

Good point.
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Re: Non-NYM off-season moves

Post by Johnny Lunchbucket » Tue Jan 07, 2025 2:42 pm

Also comes to the Reds as a similarly high-ranked but underperforming infielder departs in Jonathan India
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Post by Frayed Knot » Tue Jan 07, 2025 3:49 pm

Yeah, the Dodgers' main gripe about Lux was that he wasn't a good enough SS. That's at least partly why Mookie got moved over there, lack of better options.
But now they got the Korean player and signed last year's mid-season pick-up from the Cards Tommy Edman (y'all remember him?) to a Five-year deal.
iow, Lux became expendable, but not garbage. He's also kind of similar to Edman as well as India but is 2-1/2 years younger than Edman and one year to India.
The Reds have two years of control on Lux. And the other good thing about Lux to the Reds is that the Yanx were eying him.
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Re: Non-NYM off-season moves

Post by Marshmallowmilkshake » Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:28 pm

Justin Verlander heads to the Giants, per Heyman.
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Re: Non-NYM off-season moves

Post by MFS62 » Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:39 pm

Marshmallowmilkshake wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:28 pm Justin Verlander heads to the Giants, per Heyman.
1 Year, $15 million.
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Re: Non-NYM off-season moves

Post by Lefty Specialist » Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:52 pm

Just glad that option didn't vest.
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