The Crane Pool Forum

When you run the Philadelphia Marathon, after 26.2 miles you get one of those bad boys and a cup of steaming hot chicken broth to dip it into.

The race is always a cooler day, the last weekend before Thanksgiving, and that is one fine fine post race piece of nourishment.

I'm blocked by Martino but this from SNY

That is a pretty messed up pretzel. Needs beer cheese and a beer.

Heyman, Post: Correa/NYM talks hit a "hiccup" leading Correa/Boras to be in contact with "at least one other team".

MLB.com ((citing NY Post article) is reporting that Correa and Boras are in contact with 2 other teams (one is believed to be the Twins) while also negotiating a restructuring with the Mets.

I'm growing tired of this entire ordeal. It seems that all substantial potential moves the Mets might be considering are on hold while this protracted negotiation drags on. I would love to see Correa manning third base for the Mets, but I am growing tired of this drawn out affair. I seriously doubt, any team will offer him nearly the money (and years) the Giants and Mets offered. If the two sides are not making substantial progress to resolving this contractual impasse, I feel it would be in the Mets best interest to "cut bait" and move on with their offseason.

I would not be stunned of Boras is leaking that he is talking to other teams to put pressure on the Mets. It always seems there are leaks about a "mystery team" involved when he has a star client trying to get a deal signed.

Edgy MD wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:13 pm I wouidn't be surprised to see the Twins enter back into the picture. They have more on his current condition than most teams, and they already have a contract that he opted out of. It wouldn't be so hard to say to Boras, "That deal is still open to opt back into, or at least serve as a starting point."

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Frayed Knot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:51 pm Heyman, Post: Correa/NYM talks hit a "hiccup" leading Correa/Boras to be in contact with "at least one other team".

I think this is a bluff, trying to put the pressure on Unkie Steve to get this deal locked down by releasing this info publicly. I think other teams that can't just print their own monopoly money aren't giving up the big bucks for Correa because of this leg thing anyway.

this whole saga is getting a little tedious...every day on my facebook feed or on sportspyder there is another updated Correa story that basically says nothing new or cooks up drama...at this point it's time to either shit or get off the pot so that we can focus on getting the roster more focused than 1 freaking player...I would like Correa, but it's not like we don't have several other 3B options

I'm not really stressing the mystery team. At this point, no team is going to pip the Mets' offer when there's clearly something scary on the medicals. And I don't see how Correa is served taking another short deal and doing it all over again next year. If he's really walking around with an ankle that was repaired with duct tape and Big League Chew™, any team that beats the Mets will soon find the same befuddling shit on the X-ray, so...

These re-negotiations should protect the club pretty well and I'm sure Carlos will still make truck loads of dough over the next decade.

yeah, i mean, i'm just waiting for it to be done so that i can stop wondering how it's gonna get done. but i'm hardly worried that it gets done.

and if it doesn't get done? well, shit, it's not like we were a bad team before the signing.

Exactly. If they go with Escobar and/or Baty and/or Vientos at third base, they're still a likely playoff team.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:50 am Exactly. If they go with Escobar and/or Baty and/or Vientos at third base, they're still a likely playoff team.

without correa, we were an even bet to take the NL east. damn right we're a likely playoff team even without him!

what, me worry?

looks like boras isn't the only one who can play this game.

metsmarathon wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:22 pm looks like boras isn't the only one who can play this game.

There are two guys who don't like to lose going head to head.
This is now a game of chicken.
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MFS62 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:42 pm

metsmarathon wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:22 pm looks like boras isn't the only one who can play this game.

There are two guys who don't like to lose going head to head.
This is now a game of chicken.
Later

I'm not so sure. I think the Mets have much more leverage. The Mets would like to have Correa, but they don't need to have him. Meanwhile Boras is an agent with a client who needs a contract. The number of teams that can afford a 10-year, $300 million contract is pretty small. The number of those teams that need a shortstop/third baseman is smaller yet - especially if you subtract the Mets and Giants.

It just smells of last-minute drama to either improve the deal or get it over the line.

You kind of get the feeling that if the Mets balk, Boras will sign a shorter-term deal with the Twins, who always seem to be in the background. They've seen the medicals and were OK with offering him the 3-year deal for over $100 million that he opted out of. They also made a long-term offer that the Giants blew out of the water. So they'd be a pretty reasonable fallback.

The Hot Corner wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:49 pm That is a pretty messed up pretzel. Needs beer cheese and a beer.

It kinda looks like a pretzel that had too many beers.

Marshmallowmilkshake wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:53 pm Meanwhile Boras is an agent with a client who needs a contract.

He doesn't care. Didn't he make one of his clients sit out an entire year without a contract a few years ago?
He'll have him sit rather than take a lesser deal.

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Lefty Specialist wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:23 pm You kind of get the feeling that if the Mets balk, Boras will sign a shorter-term deal with the Twins, who always seem to be in the background. They've seen the medicals and were OK with offering him the 3-year deal for over $100 million that he opted out of. They also made a long-term offer that the Giants blew out of the water. So they'd be a pretty reasonable fallback.

but did they give him a new-hire-type physical after the ankle incident late last year?

They saw the prior medicals, but if there's something new with that old injury, maybe they wouldn't be quite so fast to pull a trigger.

I think it's fairly clear that an agent can't "make" a client sit out a year.

Edgy MD wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 2:09 pm I think it's fairly clear that an agent can't "make" a client sit out a year.

I struggled mightily over that word when I typed that.
I thought of using "had" or I could have said "Convinced his client that it would be better for him to...".
Maybe just urged? Suggested?

Whatever

Later

No, an agent cannot make someone sit out against their will.

Correa to the Twins on a short game deal

The Bret Baty era begins

That's my guess

Stephen Drew I think took a 1 year deal not until the season started after Boras overplayed his hand trying to get him the big contract. and he never got paid big after that.

there may have been others.