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Re: Winter Ball Injury for Ronny Mauricio

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:58 pm
by Edgy MD
duan wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:34 pm
Edgy MD wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:27 pm. Anecdotally, I think of blown ACLs as more common in amateur soccer than the pros, so maybe, but what do I know? But it's certainly not crazy to think that more rest over the winter would have made this less likely to happen in spring.
I’m pretty sure they’re not that common in amateur football, I’ve been playing for almost 30 seasons and know of 1/2 teammates at most.
Where they have become incredibly common is in elite women’s football, and there’s definitely something that coaches, sports scientists and physios need to figure out
https://www.skysports.com/amp/football ... -to-fix-it
Indeed, where I come from, most ACL surgery scars are on women's knees. They recognize them on each other at cocktail parties and instantly bond with each other over their football horror stories.

Re: Winter Ball Injury for Ronny Mauricio

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:14 pm
by Frayed Knot
There's a theory that women get those kind of drastic knee injuries at a greater rate than male athletes due to simple skeletal structure.
Men, with their narrower hips and tendency towards bowl-legged-ness, have more of a straight line from hips to knees to ankles, where
as females start with the tops of the femurs wider apart tapering down towards narrower 'knock' knees leading to a greater chance of
the knee joint 'folding' inward due to an awkward landing or from the simple starts and cuts as discussed above.

That female athletes get ACL (and similar) tears at a greater rate than males is statistically true (at least in some studies, mostly involving
basketball IIRC). Whether the basic leg structure is The reason or simply A reason is speculation, but it certainly rings true to me.

Re: Winter Ball Injury for Ronny Mauricio

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:44 pm
by duan
Frayed Knot wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:14 pm That female athletes get ACL (and similar) tears at a greater rate than males is statistically true (at least in some studies, mostly involving
basketball IIRC). Whether the basic leg structure is The reason or simply A reason is speculation, but it certainly rings true to me.
It definitely is true at 'top level' women's football (soccer) - though the theory's are far and wide - I think the one that makes most sense to me is that by and large women are going through a very similar set of training structures at the top level of football as the men do and that fails to take into account some simple physiological differences - stuff like hips etc as you detail - and therefore we should be shaping their training slightly differently to take that stuff into account and make their legs less susceptible, rather then the current programme which could be making them develop their physique in such a way as to make them actually 'more' susceptible as while it works for men it does not work as well for women.

Re: Winter Ball Injury for Ronny Mauricio

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:19 pm
by ashie62
Lefty Specialist wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:12 pm
MFS62 wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 1:55 pm Joe Schultz.
Later
Debating whether it should be 'fuckshit' or 'shitfuck'.
Ball Four

This injury is a lifetime for Baty and Vientos

They will have a larger opportunity to prove that they can hit

Maybe Luisangel Acuna crushes double A and adds to the infield

Re: Winter Ball Injury for Ronny Mauricio

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:32 pm
by Benjamin Grimm
I can see something like that happening mid season, Acuna playing second and McNeil moving to third.

Re: Winter Ball Injury for Ronny Mauricio

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:02 pm
by Benjamin Grimm
Has Maurico had his surgery yet? I haven't heard anything about when it's supposed to happen.

Re: Winter Ball Injury for Ronny Mauricio

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:24 pm
by MFS62
Benjamin Grimm wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:02 pm Has Maurico had his surgery yet? I haven't heard anything about when it's supposed to happen.
Did he even have his MRI, or are they using the classic "waiting for the swelling to go down" for the delay?
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Re: Winter Ball Injury for Ronny Mauricio

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:34 pm
by Edgy MD
Using that for what?

Re: Winter Ball Injury for Ronny Mauricio

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:50 pm
by MFS62
For the delay in announcing the completion or scheduling of the surgery. I've heard it many times at pressers when reporters asked about injuries. Haven't you?
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Re: Winter Ball Injury for Ronny Mauricio

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:48 pm
by Edgy MD
If you've heard that diagnosticians are waiting for swelling to go down, I would imagine it's because they are.

Why would anybody intentionally delay diagnostics and treatment of their own high-investment players? And then concoct a cover story?

Re: Winter Ball Injury for Ronny Mauricio

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:00 pm
by MFS62
It was not my intention to allege any sinister motives for the delay.
I said it was the reason why nothing's been announced. It is a perfectly valid medical reason.
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Re: Winter Ball Injury for Ronny Mauricio

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 5:45 pm
by G-Fafif
From Will Sammon in the Athletic:
Ronny Mauricio’s surgery for a torn ACL is scheduled for shortly after New Year’s Day in New York, a league source said. Those close to him said Mauricio, 22, was in good spirits. Mauricio sustained the right knee injury on Dec. 10 while playing winter ball in the Dominican Republic.

Re: Winter Ball Injury for Ronny Mauricio

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:29 am
by G-Fafif


Re: Winter Ball Injury for Ronny Mauricio

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 3:07 pm
by Edgy MD
David Altchek got the call.

I've come to associate Altchek with shoulder surgeries. He did Edwin Diaz' knee, also, but hey, Edwin still hasn't re-appeared.

Re: Winter Ball Injury for Ronny Mauricio

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 3:23 pm
by Benjamin Grimm
If it's six months he will be back in July. Eight months would be September. So he has a chance to play a little this season, if things go well.

Re: Winter Ball Injury for Ronny Mauricio

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:58 pm
by metirish


Re: Winter Ball Injury for Ronny Mauricio

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 7:22 pm
by A Boy Named Seo
metirish wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:58 pm

Probably prudent. I know he wants to get ramped up and play ball but getting to spring training injury-free and feeling good would be tops on my list, too.

Re: Winter Ball Injury for Ronny Mauricio

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:24 pm
by metirish


This is disturbing, I tried to post the article from Puma's tweet, but it's a "members only" article, never saw that in the Post before

Re: Winter Ball Injury for Ronny Mauricio

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:06 pm
by metirish