The Pete Alonso Conundrum
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I don't know what the guy has been offered, but he may not want to accept less than the Mets offered last season.
It'd be a mental block for me, anyhow. $100 million looks pretty great unless you have a strong memory of having left $200 million on the table.
It'd be a mental block for me, anyhow. $100 million looks pretty great unless you have a strong memory of having left $200 million on the table.
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My guess is Pete signs somewhere for one year and starts free agency over In 2026.
In other possible news Vientos goes to first and Bregman becomes a Met
In other possible news Vientos goes to first and Bregman becomes a Met
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My guess, as of right now: Pete comes back to the Mets with a four year contract, $130 million with one or more opt-outs. And vesting clauses for the fifth and sixth years that could bring the potential total close to the $200 million that Boras appears to want so badly.
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Pete already took that risk once and lost, but ... ashie is a big page-turnin' guy.
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i'll be relatively shocked if this isn't what ends up happening.Benjamin Grimm wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:52 pm My guess, as of right now: Pete comes back to the Mets with a four year contract, $130 million with one or more opt-outs. And vesting clauses for the fifth and sixth years that could bring the potential total close to the $200 million that Boras appears to want so badly.
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I'm here too. I think this is the most likely result. I think it's possible that someone may enter the picture on a short term deal, but I think only the Mets would extend to that fourth year (and option years) and that will ultimately be the difference. Also, I think Pete would prefer to come back if everything else was equal.Benjamin Grimm wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:52 pm My guess, as of right now: Pete comes back to the Mets with a four year contract, $130 million with one or more opt-outs. And vesting clauses for the fifth and sixth years that could bring the potential total close to the $200 million that Boras appears to want so badly.
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Can we get this done before Easter, please?Benjamin Grimm wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:52 pm My guess, as of right now: Pete comes back to the Mets with a four year contract, $130 million with one or more opt-outs. And vesting clauses for the fifth and sixth years that could bring the potential total close to the $200 million that Boras appears to want so badly.
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Four and 130 would certainly suggest his holdout has been fruitful.
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I predicting a signing announcement next Thursday, Jan 16.kcmets wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:36 pmCan we get this done before Easter, please?Benjamin Grimm wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:52 pm My guess, as of right now: Pete comes back to the Mets with a four year contract, $130 million with one or more opt-outs. And vesting clauses for the fifth and sixth years that could bring the potential total close to the $200 million that Boras appears to want so badly.
Why? Because it'll be the two year anniversary of this thread (and don't think that Pete, Scott, David, and Steve haven't been reading and keeping up on it).
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I have an appointment with my urologist that day!
That can't be a coincidence.
That can't be a coincidence.
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The longer this goes on, Pete's image of a lovable polar bear is going to get tarnished.
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I'm not there. This is no other team that's been definitely in on Alonso, and I don't think Stearns will bid against himself. This is basically Stearns against Boras. Pete wants to be a Met and can sign anytime he wants. Boras is pushing for something he won't get, at least not from the Mets. If another mystery team enters the picture this could all change, but that hasn't happened yet. I'm sure Boras is trying to feed the Rosenthals and the Hey, man's of the world rumors that the Red Sox or Giants or Mariners are interested in Pete, but it doesn't seem to be happening.Centerfield wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 2:34 pmI'm here too. I think this is the most likely result. I think it's possible that someone may enter the picture on a short term deal, but I think only the Mets would extend to that fourth year (and option years) and that will ultimately be the difference. Also, I think Pete would prefer to come back if everything else was equal.Benjamin Grimm wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:52 pm My guess, as of right now: Pete comes back to the Mets with a four year contract, $130 million with one or more opt-outs. And vesting clauses for the fifth and sixth years that could bring the potential total close to the $200 million that Boras appears to want so badly.
I'm guessing he signs, but it'll be more like 3/$100 with an opt-out somewhere. Spring training is a little more than 5 weeks away and I'm betting the Polar Bear is getting a little antsy (as are most of us).
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I hope this is the case.
The key will be whether another team enters the mix. If no team ever shows interest, then Pete has one and only option. If another team comes in with a 3 year offer, then I think BG's contract is more likely. I would think there would be some team interested in a 40+ HR bat on a 3 year deal, but what do I know.
The key will be whether another team enters the mix. If no team ever shows interest, then Pete has one and only option. If another team comes in with a 3 year offer, then I think BG's contract is more likely. I would think there would be some team interested in a 40+ HR bat on a 3 year deal, but what do I know.
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As has been said, teams may be reluctant to bid on Pete with the thought that Uncle Steve will come in and match or exceed whatever they offer. Kind of a Catch-22 from Pete's perspective.
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Which was exacerbated by Pete publicly stating how much he'd love to be back. Basically he told other teams they'd be used as negotiating pawns.
He's so goofy and loveable. Part of why I want him back.
He's so goofy and loveable. Part of why I want him back.
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I tend to think it's fine to be used as a negotiating pawn, if you don't take it personally, like it's a romantic slight or something.
If I'm the Phillies GM, and I like Pete Alonso and I think Pete Alonso is worth four years @ $30 million per annum, but I think he really wants to go back to the Mets, I'm going to bid my 4x30 to make sure the Mets have to endure as much pain as possible to outbid me.
If my suspicion is off and he accepts, great. I got my man at the price I thought he was worth. If he goes to them, my offer goes right back in my pocket. They are out that much more money and it didn't cost me a cent. Pete's using me? No, I'm using him!
If I'm the Phillies GM, and I like Pete Alonso and I think Pete Alonso is worth four years @ $30 million per annum, but I think he really wants to go back to the Mets, I'm going to bid my 4x30 to make sure the Mets have to endure as much pain as possible to outbid me.
If my suspicion is off and he accepts, great. I got my man at the price I thought he was worth. If he goes to them, my offer goes right back in my pocket. They are out that much more money and it didn't cost me a cent. Pete's using me? No, I'm using him!
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I agree. I'm surprised that teams don't seem to see it that way.
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I think it's time to just say, 'this is what we'll give you and your
agent and if that is not satisfactory then thanks and good luck.'
Be a Met, or be a weasel...
agent and if that is not satisfactory then thanks and good luck.'
Be a Met, or be a weasel...
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If the Mets ever reach that point, they won't say so in the way you describe. They'll just sign a different player as an alternative solution and that's how Alonso's camp will get the message.
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Where do you get “weasel” from? I’ve not seen a single thing to suggest Pete isn’t acting in good faith. Negotiations can take a while.
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WFAN is reporting an "exclusive" (I didn't catch the name of the reporter) That Pete has agreed to accept a three year contract with the Mets, finances not disclosed/ still being worked out.
The lack of more details makes me suspicious, but ...
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If true, this sounds promising.