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I'd put the car and model behind him on the infield, and his name in the lower left hand corner. But you do you.

Edgy MD wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:31 pm I'd put the car and model behind him on the infield, and his name in the lower left hand corner. But you do you.

But the car's an outline illustration. Don't you think it should be an actual car for your idea to work? Also, there's only the hood of the car to work with. The car would have to be high up on the card, against the card border(s), appearing as if the missing part of the car got cut off or cropped out by the edge(s) of the card.

Your point is valid, but it's what I'd go for.

Here's the contact sheet Sr. Vargas allegedly used for reference.

Purple hum, typewriter cards
Razor lights you'll bring

Edgy MD wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:46 pm Your point is valid, but it's what I'd go for.

Here's the contact sheet Sr. Vargas allegedly used for reference.

I made this rough draft, below, before I saw your contact sheet post. Apparently, I was drafting and you were posting more or less simultaneously.

Here it is:



This doesn't really work. Plus, three sides of the car are missing, not just two. So putting the car in a corner of the card wouldn't solve the missing car thing.

The problem with the contact sheet images, at least as I see it, is that the images aren't instantly recognizable. Most rock and roll fans, especially those that are, more or less, in our age group, will recognize the Vargas illustration immediately and know the source. That Cars album cover is iconic and widely considered to be one of Rock and Roll's great album covers. The photographs -- not so much. In fact, Vargas had tinkered with the photos in arriving at his final drawing so much, that it's hard to even make the connection that the actual model is the same person in the illustration.

No, indeed. I thought it might help you extend the car if you wanted to go there.

Another option is to put Ms. Moore car-free on the outfield grass.

I just like how the ultimate illustration is a combo of at least three of those shots.

Edgy MD wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:06 pm

Another option is to put Ms. Moore on the outfield grass.

Yeah, but I specifically didn't want that. I wanted it to look like Moore and Dessens were there together.

Wow, we're so far down the rabbit hole.

It's like we're in the rabbit's sub-basement, where he keeps his carrot seeds, his 7-year-old tax returns, and his female disguise in case Elmer shows up blasting (Fudd, not Dessens).

Nice.

Lol I love this Candy-O retrospect!

batmagadanleadoff wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:07 pm

Edgy MD wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:06 pm

Another option is to put Ms. Moore on the outfield grass.

Yeah, but I specifically didn't want that. I wanted it to look like Moore and Dessens were there together.

Like some freaky old-timey carnival act where he pitches baseballs while she writhes on the grass in a sexually provocative manner.

Maybe the answer lies not with Candy-O, but with Dessens. It's *obvious* you're on the right track with this thing--
it's that you must find the Elmer that, yes, glues this genius inspiration all together, and brings to lfe this magnificent artistic vision, making it into into the gallery-worthy, jaw-droppingly stunning combination of fringe Mets, iconic rock albums, baseball cards, and big pointy tits that we all know it can be! Seek your answer in Elmer, FOR THE LOVE OF ART.

He's not wrong. Putting aside any dividedness over the black jerseys, that white-fronted hat is totally ass, and nobody disagrees with that. How married can you be to that photo? Looking for an alternate Elmer would open up all sorts of possibilities to you.



Don't let good be the enemy of great.

Using the stadium walls for signage is, for me, the option of last resort. It's the easiest card to make in this set because the available photos that lend themselves to this kind of card are plentiful. Once I did two or three of those kinds, it became boring and for the most part, devoid of any creativity. They look nice enough but they're variations on the same theme. BTDT. I'll do them when I'm stuck, or if there's a specific image that I really wanna include in the set, but for the most part, I'm trying to come up with other ideas. Which isn't that easy because the source photos don't always cooperate. Most of the photos available on the web are game action shots and after you've seen a few of them, they become repetitive. The same exact shots from the same exact angles.

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:10 pm Maybe the answer lies not with Candy-O, but with Dessens. It's *obvious* you're on the right track with this thing--
it's that you must find the Elmer that, yes, glues this genius inspiration all together, and brings to lfe this magnificent artistic vision, making it into into the gallery-worthy, jaw-droppingly stunning combination of fringe Mets, iconic rock albums, baseball cards, and big pointy tits that we all know it can be! Seek your answer in Elmer, FOR THE LOVE OF ART.

Or, you know, it doesn't even have to be Elmer. Which 2010 Met would pair up the best with Candy? Lucas Duda? He seems too shy for her. She might eat him alive and then take all of his money, like Kathy Kersh on Burt Ward. But they look like a good match, at least visually and that's all we're going for here - the visual. The cards don't talk. Jerry Manuel? Jay Horwitz?

Edgy MD wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:18 pm

batmagadanleadoff wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:58 pm(It's not really model, but a Vargas Girl illustration, right?)

Well, Vargas used actual models as subjects for his illustrations. In this case, he used Candy Moore. Often confused and conflated with the Candy Moore who played Lucy's daughter in The Lucy Show, this Candy Moore was mostly known for her work as a Vargas model, as a photographic subject on several Rick James record covers, and for her turn as Diedre in the Oscar-spurned 1981 celluloid feature Lunch Wagon.



Skeezy guy makes fun of skeezy movie! Come for the (really) cheap exploitation! Stay for the Missing Persons cameos!

The reason I am the way I am is because when I was 8 years old, and this movie came out, this is what all women everywhere looked like to me. In some deep, recessed part of my brain, they all still do, God bless them.

I love this Typewriter Chewing Gum Rock n Roll set and would literally buy the entire set for real money and frame it and hang it my office, for real. It's the best thing since sliced (Wonder) bread, and a pity we had to wait 12 years to see it.

Signed,
Roger Kaputnik

P.S.: They'd be better if they all included a snippet of a lyric, an album title or quote associated with the rnr property that tied it to the Met or action in baseball, even with a dotted line, like the Turner one, but not be so obvious so as also to reveal the band or album. Would inspire thought and discovery

I understand the redundancy of the walljob. I was just trying to throw out the opportunity of using an alternate photo. I wouldn't presume to suggest my knick-knack card belongs in your set.

Say what you will about the above cards not thrilling you, but you just made a legend out of Nick Evans. A LEGEND!

And yes, I do want these printed on cardboard.

Yeah these are all fucktacular.

"Evans eyes the incoming ball like the Nirvana baby reaches for the dangling dollar--they're young, they're trying--but trickery and failure and heroin and suicide may await them both and this is in our own faces and yet clear that Evans' fate as a Fringe Met awaits and that Baby Nirvana is doomed to come of age as an American voter in time for Donald Fucking Trump to be president and all we can do is say 'Oh well. Whatever. Nevermind.'"

--Joe Schlabotnik, Famous Art Critic

This thread's never gonna be the same after it was visited upon by the great carny act of Candy and Elmer. He pitches and she wriggles on the ground beneath him, sexually, tantalizingly. Then Candy mounts Elmer and still fully clothed, dry humps Elmer while he throws perfect strikes on the black every single time. Then, Elmer simulates an orgasm by squirting glue from a bottle of Elmer's Glue. For five dollars, you can follow Candy & Elmer into the big tent where, under dim lights, they repeat their act, but this time, naked. And for real.

Pity the fringe Met that's gotta follow that act. It's like following Jimi Hendrix at Monterey. Talk about an antit-climactic letdown. And to make matters worse, today's fringe Met is pictured on what is perhaps, TCG's most understated card set ever, the 2011 set, code named Come Fly with Me. So whachyouse got on Val Pascucci?

You can spot a fake rock fan a mile away when somebody mistakes Jimi Hendrix' guitar-burning antics as having occurred at Woodstock, rather than Monterey.

What's lesser known is that his pyrotechnics were a lately conceived initiative of one-upmanship that he came up with as a way of topping Pete Townsend, who had demolished his guitar at the end of The Who's set, two spots earlier.

What's even more lost to history, though, but delightful to those who delight in such things, is that The Grateful Dead did an utterly unmemorable set in between the two heavyweights.

But at least The Dead lived on. The unhappy assignment of following The Experience went to The Mamas & the Papas along with Scott MacKenzie. Some sources say they opened with TM&tP's backing MacKenzie as he sang "(If You're Going to) San Francisco." Other sources say MacKenzie came out at the end and they closed with it.

I'm guessing the latter. I'm sure sharpie knows for sure.

I think that originally, The Who was scheduled to perform right after Jimi. But Townsend was against that, vehemently so, having seen Jimi live many times in England. So I think that they were allowed to flip a coin to determine which of those two acts would go first. The Who won and decided to go on stage sometime before Jimi.