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Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:57 pm
by Edgy MD
Frayed Knot wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:53 pm Tim Kurkjian said yesterday (PTI) that, after spending an entire day at NYM camp followed by one at NYY camp, he heard much praise and not a single complaint from players on the new rules.
I believe him, although that might depend on to which "new" rules he's referring.

Also, the stakes are mostly non-existent in spring training.

Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:56 pm
by Fman99
It does seem to pick up the game pace.

ESPN features the clock prominently on the display, which is crud. I don't need to see it like it's the NCAA shot clock. But more weeknight games ending in the 9:30-9:40 range are OK by me.

Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:31 am
by metsmarathon
yeah, if my kids are more able to stay up to watch the game more often, instead of maybe the first inning if we're lucky, then the pitch clock will be more than worth it.

the one thing i'm actually a bit worried about is if the games go quicker, will there be enough time to actually go get concessions?

Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:48 am
by Edgy MD
Believe me, peoples are already complaining about that.

I'm sure they'll come up with ways to pad the game if things are coming in under the target.

Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:00 am
by kcmets
It would be kind of amusing if they get hit with a bite on the boo boo
and notice a drop in concession revenue.

I read somewhere that next year they want to experiment with three
ghost runners,, four outs and maybe three balls is a walk in the minors.

(I totally made that last part up)

Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:22 am
by MFS62
kcmets wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:00 am four outs and maybe three balls is a walk in the minors.
Having three balls certainly would slow a player down.
BA DA BING!
Later

Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 12:40 pm
by Frayed Knot
They haven't changed the between innings time nor the length of each pitching change (sigh).
Concession business will be just fine.

Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 2:09 pm
by Edgy MD
Well, thse things are shorter in the spring in general.

Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 2:49 pm
by A Boy Named Seo
Today on the shitshow... Nats would go on to score 8(!!!) in the top of the 3rd.


Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2023 3:00 pm
by A Boy Named Seo
But also this


Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:34 am
by Edgy MD
What happens when the clock gamesmanship becomes a defining part of the game?

Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:29 pm
by A Boy Named Seo
More Max Madness. Called for a balk, not because he didn't come to a complete stop, but because he quick-pitched Victor Robles who wasn't ready and looking up. The twitter thread includes a post-game Max Q&A where he explains his side and a tweet from Howie trying to make sense of it all. Baseball in 2023 is weird.

Fangraphs covers all of Max's stuff -> https://blogs.fangraphs.com/max-scherze ... ock-rules/

Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:20 pm
by Frayed Knot
Test the limits of the rules now.
That's part of what ST is for.

Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:22 pm
by metirish

Make of this what you will, if anything

Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:25 pm
by G-Fafif
Vogey is ready.


Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:28 pm
by Benjamin Grimm
He probably means he'll take one home with him after the game.

Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:55 am
by duan
that's pretty good in fairness.

Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:45 am
by G-Fafif
If ya really wanna shift, bring in an outfielder, per Jayson Starks and some teams messing around with the notion.

https://theathletic.com/4336237/2023/03 ... eld-shift/

Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:53 am
by Benjamin Grimm
G-Fafif wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:45 am If ya really wanna shift, bring in an outfielder, per Jayson Starks and some teams messing around with the notion.

https://theathletic.com/4336237/2023/03 ... eld-shift/
I've been thinking that this is inevitable, and will probably be addressed in yet another rule change for 2024.

Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:56 pm
by Edgy MD
duan wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:55 am that's pretty good in fairness.
It is pretty good, but I'm a little uncomfortable with the selling the changes through propaganda.

Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:38 am
by duan
Ah it's good humoured and self aware.

Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 9:45 pm
by metirish


Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:11 am
by kcmets
I don't tweet much, if at all really but...

"Pitch clock and gametime management - good. Ghost runners - stupid."

You've all been tweeted. Yay!

Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 2:20 pm
by Edgy MD
Yeah, the question is too frequently phrased in terms of "What do you think of 'the new rules'?" Each rule clearly deserves to be considered individually.

But that's the way The Man operates.

Re: Get ready for the shitshow

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:21 pm
by nymr83
Carrasco flat out said the pitch clock bothered him today. Definitely something to watch as he already felt like the most likely starter to have a NON INJURY related regression to shit this year.