Mets hire Mendoza

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Post by Edgy MD » Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:49 pm

roger_that wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:14 pm
Edgy MD wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 1:39 pm I don't care about the Yankees. Nor do I think the Mets "relied" on the Yankees in any meaningful way when they hired Buck Showalter, for instance.
It's a factual question, and not particularly concerned with how much you care or don't care about it.
No, the premise that the Mets "relied" on the Yankees is not a fact at all, but very much an opinion.
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Post by roger_that » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:22 pm

Edgy MD wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:49 pm
roger_that wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:14 pm
Edgy MD wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 1:39 pm I don't care about the Yankees. Nor do I think the Mets "relied" on the Yankees in any meaningful way when they hired Buck Showalter, for instance.
It's a factual question, and not particularly concerned with how much you care or don't care about it.
No, the premise that the Mets "relied" on the Yankees is not a fact at all, but very much an opinion.
That wasn't the factual part of the question I was referring to, as you probably understand. The factual part is the number of former Yankee managers, coaches, and players whom the Mets have selected to be their managers. You could hardly get more factual than that simple task of counting Mets managers who have worn pinstripes. That's the part that is unconcerned with your caring or not-caring.

Whether you accept the characterization of the Mets "relying" on the Yankees for their managers, or would prefer to call it the Mets "drawing upon" or "hiring" or "extending managerial employment to" former Yankees, is a matter of personal style, but one thing I would balk at calling it is "a sheer coincidence." You, of course, may choose to characterize this factual phenomenon in any way that pleases you.
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Post by Edgy MD » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:33 pm

roger_that wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:22 pm
Edgy MD wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:49 pm
roger_that wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:14 pm

It's a factual question, and not particularly concerned with how much you care or don't care about it.
No, the premise that the Mets "relied" on the Yankees is not a fact at all, but very much an opinion.
That wasn't the factual part of the question I was referring to, as you probably understand.
You didn't write that it was a question with a factual part. You wrote that it was a factual question. It isn't.

I don't know why you want to throw down over this.
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Post by ashie62 » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:35 pm

This is asinine
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Post by Edgy MD » Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:40 pm

I understand.

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Post by metirish » Tue Nov 07, 2023 6:53 pm

Chris is on board , nice to see
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Post by kcmets » Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:33 pm

Has a formal introduction been announced yet? Ya know, like with cameras,
mics and silly organizational yibber yabber?
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Post by metsmarathon » Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:36 pm

Oh. Chris’s Russo doesn’t like the Carlos Mendoza hiring.

Well.

That settles it.

I love it!

I mean, if that blithering idiot is against him, how bad can he be?
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Post by Frayed Knot » Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:44 pm

Russo wouldn't know Mendoza if stuck on an elevator with him. He's just railing at analytics and the perception that, under Stearnes and just as Boone is under the current MFY regime, he'll be beholden to dictates from above rather than allowed to be a "real" manager like Bochy.
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Post by Edgy MD » Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:36 pm

Anything official on this yet? I've seen SNY tweet a shot of Mendoza in a mockup Mets uniform, but nothing substantive from the team.

Have I missed somet'n'?
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Post by metirish » Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:40 pm

Nothing, seems odd indeed
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Post by A Boy Named Seo » Wed Nov 08, 2023 3:04 pm

Maybe he failed his physical
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Post by metirish » Wed Nov 08, 2023 3:08 pm

Probably saw his BA
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Post by Edgy MD » Thu Nov 09, 2023 8:21 pm

Wifey just suggested that maybe recent experience has led them to do more thorough vetting; and maybe, in that vetting, they've hit a snag.
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Post by G-Fafif » Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:43 pm

Martino says official announcement Monday, press conference Tuesday.
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Post by kcmets » Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:05 pm

"After having a leadership role in the most venerated of all sports
franchises in the history of all mankind, I know what greatness means.
I thank them for that. I thank them for allowing me to export some of
that greatness to a sister borough. I thank the Cohen's, Mr. Stoins and
the entire Mets organization for this honor and opportunity."

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Post by G-Fafif » Mon Nov 13, 2023 8:43 am

Will Sammon in the Athletic collects testimonials that indicate Carlos Mendoza (or “Mendy”) has surpassed sliced bread in the Best Thing category.
He’d often begin meetings with a small touch of humor. Then he’d dive into the details of scouting reports and game plans with thoroughness and a direct tone.
A portrait of an unfamiliar character is being painted in the above paragraph, but it leaves me wondering if most bench coaches scowl at first, then dispense information in a superficial manner while scrolling through their phone.

Anyway, he’s great and the Mets couldn’t have gotten a better manager, says everybody who’s ever crossed paths with the guy.

https://theathletic.com/5057871/2023/11 ... -the-guys/
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Post by metirish » Mon Nov 13, 2023 12:05 pm

Officially official
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Post by Johnny Lunchbucket » Mon Nov 13, 2023 12:11 pm

concerning that they couldn't find a better picture of the guy
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Post by G-Fafif » Mon Nov 13, 2023 12:12 pm

Official release:
The New York Mets today announced that they have named Carlos Mendoza the 25th manager in team history, agreeing to terms on a three-year contract with a club option for a fourth year. He will be introduced in a press conference in the Piazza 31 Club at Citi Field on Tuesday, November 14 at 12 p.m.

Mendoza, who turns 44 on November 27, spent the last 15 years in the Yankees organization, including the previous four as the team’s major league bench coach.

“We are excited to begin this new chapter of Mets baseball,” Mets owners Steve and Alex Cohen said. “Carlos brings a wealth of experience to the Mets that includes more than a decade managing and coaching in the minors as well as serving as bench coach the last four years with our cross-town rivals. Carlos is full of energy, passion and it was easy to see he’ll have a great rapport with both our veteran and young players.”

Mendoza, who will wear uniform #28, served two seasons (2018-2019) as the Yankees’ major league quality control coach and infield coach before he was promoted to bench coach.

“We promised an exhaustive search and we are thrilled to introduce Carlos as the next manager of the Mets,” President of Baseball Operations David Stearns said. “Carlos has a brilliant baseball mind and a finely honed ability to collaborate with others. He comes with a fantastic reputation as a trusted leader and someone who has been beloved in every stop of his career. Carlos knows what it takes to lead, especially here in New York, and I am looking forward to partnering with him to bring sustained success to this franchise.”

Mendoza, a native of Barquisimeto, Venezuela, is the second Venezuelan-born manager in Major League history, joining Ozzie Guillén. He served as the bench coach for Venezuela during the 2023 World Baseball Classic. Additionally, Mendoza managed the Cardenales de Lara of the Venezuelan Winter League in 2021 and 2022. He had previously been their beach coach for the 2017-2018 campaign.

“I couldn’t be more excited to manage this tremendous franchise,” Mendoza said. “I want Mets fans to know that I will pour every ounce of energy into this job and we share a common goal of bringing a championship to Queens. I’m proud to represent Venezuela and the Mets and I’m grateful Steve, Alex and David gave me this wonderful opportunity.”

Mendoza was the Yankees’ lower level field coordinator in 2017 and infield coordinator from 2013-17. He managed Charleston, the Yankees’ Single-A affiliate in the South Atlantic League in 2012. He managed the Gulf Coast League Yankees to the 2011 championship. Mendoza coached with short-season Single-A Staten Island in the New York-Penn League in 2009 and with Charleston in 2010.

He served as the Scottsdale Scorpions manager in the Arizona Fall League in 2012 and 2016. Mendoza was the bench coach for the Gigantes de Carolina in the Puerto Rican Winter League during the 2014-15 campaign.

Mendoza played 10 minor league seasons (1997-2009) as an infielder in the San Francisco Giants and Yankees organizations as well as a three-years for the independent Pensacola Pelicans (2004-2006). He was originally signed by the Giants as a non-drafted free agent in 1996.

Carlos and his wife, Francis, have two sons, Adrian and Andres.
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Post by nymr83 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:11 pm

kcmets wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:33 pm Has a formal introduction been announced yet? Ya know, like with cameras,
mics and silly organizational yibber yabber?
And, like, a Mets hat? Tired of seeing every news article about this guy with a MFY jersey on. Give the media some fresh photos!
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Re: Mets hire Mendoza

Post by roger_that » Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:49 pm

Dunno how accurate this report is

, but I really dislike framing ANYTHING, even positive stuff, in terms of a Yankee perspective.
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Re: Mets hire Mendoza

Post by roger_that » Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:32 am

Mark Healey claims it's an inaccurate report.

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Post by Edgy MD » Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:40 am

"Next question ... you in the back?"

"Yes, hi. Edgy MD, Crane Pool Companion?"

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"Yes. Who the fuck is Ben Yoel?"

"Perhaps I should clarify with regard to formalities. Let's still try and maintain some decorum, this being a professional, public forum and all."

"I'm sorry. Who the fuck is Ben Yoel, Sir?"
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