The Pete Alonso Conundrum

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Post by Cowtipper » Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:24 pm

This is the most underachieving team of recent memory. Nothing has clicked. Time to clean house.
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Post by ashie62 » Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:25 pm

1st baseman on rental hitting around the Mendoza line don't get much of a haul

Very sad
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Post by Edgy MD » Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:30 pm

Well, .239 isn't really .200, but we'll see where things are at in eight weeks.
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Post by ashie62 » Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:31 pm

I hope he stays
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:40 pm

Cowtipper wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:24 pm This is the most underachieving team of recent memory. Nothing has clicked. Time to clean house.
If the Mets are still where they are now come the trade deadline, it seems they're going to go into a total teardown --- a three year plan --- despite whatever happy talk euphemistic spin Cohen and Stearns come up with. What else would you call it when everybody can be had other than maybe Lindor, Nimmo , Alvarez and Diaz?
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:58 pm

Of course, when I wrote "three year plan ", I was writing like from the mindset of the olden days. Because what is a three year plan today when 40% of the teams make the playoffs?
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Post by whippoorwill » Mon Jun 03, 2024 7:01 pm

ashie62 wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:31 pmI hope he stays
Me too

A guy coming here now would feel like Keef did, only worse. No up and comers
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Post by Edgy MD » Mon Jun 03, 2024 7:37 pm

I think there are plenty of up and comers. At least, potentially so.
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Post by metirish » Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:17 am

Cubs are 7 games out in second place , interesting to see how their next month goes , I'm sure they will be suitors for Pete , hate to see a homegrown player go like this ,but it has come to that
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Post by Edgy MD » Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:33 am

The Mets firstbaseman had a really ugly 0-for-5 as they barely escaped last night's game with the Nationals with an 8-7 victory.

Maybe this Alonso guy is someone the Mets could acquire.
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Post by Bob Alpacadaca » Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:55 pm

Do you think trading Pete would make it more difficult to sign him? I know Boras clients follow the money. But if he goes to, say, Chicago and hits 20 bombs in two months, he might like it there and they might be more inclined to pay more for him. I fear Juan Soto is staying in the Bronx.
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Post by metirish » Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:05 pm

I think if Pete gets traded that's his tenure with the Mets over
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Post by Benjamin Grimm » Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:11 pm

I think that's probably the case, but who knows, he may come back. Jay-or-reese Familia was traded to the Athletics and then resigned with the Mets the following winter.

Pete seems to like being an LFGM. If the Mets decide they want him back, and the money is right, I don't think he'd refuse to return.
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Post by metirish » Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:15 pm

Yeah , I also don't think he's getting the big $$ and years he maybe once envisioned
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Post by Bob Alpacadaca » Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:16 pm

If we don’t trade him, we could extend the qualifying offer and get the draft pick if he signs elsewhere, right? So would what we get back in a rental trade be better than a draft pick?
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Post by Benjamin Grimm » Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:33 pm

A young player who has established himself, either with a year or two in the majors or even at AA or AAA is more of a known quantity than a draft pick. I'd rather have two well-regarded AA or AAA prospects than a draft pick.
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Post by Edgy MD » Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:33 pm

That certainly will be part of the calculus.

But we've got eight weeks, babies. A lot can and will happen in eight weeks.
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Post by Benjamin Grimm » Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:34 pm

The Mets never did get a draft pick for Conforto, did they? Because he ended up waiting until the following offseason before signing with the Giants?
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Post by Edgy MD » Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:45 pm

That's correct.
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Post by Johnny Lunchbucket » Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:46 pm

I believe the Mets payroll situation penalizes their draft-pick compensation, and we'd only get a 4th round pick if Alonso bails
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:54 pm

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:46 pm I believe the Mets payroll situation penalizes their draft-pick compensation, and we'd only get a 4th round pick if Alonso bails
That's my understanding, too.
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Post by Bob Alpacadaca » Wed Jun 05, 2024 7:55 am

I think we're better off holding on to him and taking the risk that someone will outbid us for him.
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Post by ashie62 » Wed Jun 05, 2024 8:28 am

Let Pete stay

You don't have to get 100% value out of every slot on the roster

I'm all for keeping him rather trading him at the deadline for a couple of middling prospects
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Post by Edgy MD » Wed Jun 05, 2024 8:44 am

The factors feeding into the decision are going to change drastically every day. They changed drastically with his ugly 0-for-five on Monday. They changed drastically again when he went 2-for-5 with a homer last night.

The main factors, of course, we have little knowledge of, and that's the matter of what kind of deals are or will be available over the course of the middle of the season.

I'm just hoping the Mets take Game Three of the series this afternoon.
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Wed Jun 05, 2024 8:45 am

ashie62 wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 8:28 am Let Pete stay

You don't have to get 100% value out of every slot on the roster

I'm all for keeping him rather trading him at the deadline for a couple of middling prospects
My guess is that the Mets won't trade Alonso if all they can get for him in return are "middling prospects ". I don't think that the Mets will trade Alonso simply for the sake of trading him.
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