I totally agree with you. I even suggested that this incident, even if totally consensual, could show that Bauer's a psychopath.Edgy MD wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:38 pm If you can cover all your bases and prove to the last degree that this was totally consensual, do you really want to be the guy who stands in a courtroom with pictures of a brutalized woman in front of the judge and say, "She totally consented to that — in fact, she was really into it"?
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Yup. And I know it's very dangerous to start suggesting that every douchebag out there is a rapist, but damn, if he didn't give off some pretty clear warning signs.batmagadanleadoff wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:41 pmI totally agree with you. I even suggested that this incident, even if totally consensual, could show that Bauer's a psychopath.Edgy MD wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:38 pm If you can cover all your bases and prove to the last degree that this was totally consensual, do you really want to be the guy who stands in a courtroom with pictures of a brutalized woman in front of the judge and say, "She totally consented to that — in fact, she was really into it"?
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And even more to the point, I don't see how Bauer could possibly come out of this unscathed, even if the incident was entirely consensual. He's never gonna live this down because thiis just gruesome. He's gonna have to go beyond proving consent. He's gonna have to convince the authorities and the public that he wasn't responsible for her injuries -- but that they were either self-inflicted or inflicted by somebody else. And he may be already locked into statements that rule this out.Centerfield wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:42 pmYup. And I know it's very dangerous to start suggesting that every douchebag out there is a rapist, but damn, if he didn't give off some pretty clear warning signs.batmagadanleadoff wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:41 pmI totally agree with you. I even suggested that this incident, even if totally consensual, could show that Bauer's a psychopath.Edgy MD wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:38 pm If you can cover all your bases and prove to the last degree that this was totally consensual, do you really want to be the guy who stands in a courtroom with pictures of a brutalized woman in front of the judge and say, "She totally consented to that — in fact, she was really into it"?
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He's just fucked a zillion ways over. In a worst case scenario where he's found guilty of criminal conduct, not only will he face likely incarceration, but I'm wondering if there's a morals clause in his contract that would allow the Dodgers to void the rest of Bauer's record-setting contract.
Proving that the incident was consensual will keep Bauer out of jail, but that's just the tip of the iceberg of problems that he's brought on himself.
Proving that the incident was consensual will keep Bauer out of jail, but that's just the tip of the iceberg of problems that he's brought on himself.
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it's not even worth worrying about. It wasn't consensual and the cops baited and recorded conversations between them. He's rich though and her statement even made some "go to therapy" type concessions. They'll settle and most people will just ignore it. Dodgers won't even sit him down here.
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Bump.batmagadanleadoff wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:37 pmWhaddya mean by your post? Is that sarcasm aimed at me and my posts? Do you deny that there are people out there who enjoy engaging in extremely violent sex? Because if you do, what do you think S&M is?kcmets wrote: ↑Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:27 pm Right, "oh, and before I choke you to near death and hammer you like chop meat
can you sign this unscrupulous scammer disclaimer form because - ya know - I am
somewhat of a celebrity sports star with no track record of being an asshole?" "Yes,
there, and initial here and there." "You're a peach!"
So what's the deal? Because I didn't read anything about Bauer being accused of hitting her with a hammer. So what's all the sarcasm about? Do you think that nobody has anal sex, or plays sex choking games. You're gonna be 59 years old very soon and you don't know this?
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From Sports Illustrated:
Trevor Bauer Must Not Start Sunday
Trevor Bauer Must Not Start Sunday
Stephanie Apstein wrote:Major League Baseball and the Dodgers organization are so consumed with technicalities that they can’t be bothered to do the right thing.
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New text messages revealed. The reason I wrote yesterday that I wanted to hear more of Bauer's side of the story was because some of the accuser's story didnt add up. Why, during their first encounter, didnt she leave right away when she regained consciousness, instead staying with Bauer for several hours? Why did she then have a second encounter with Bauer?
I'm just spitballing here but one possibility is that the sex, though violent and very kinky, was entirely consensual and that initially, the accuser had no intention of making accusations against Bauer. But then Bauer ended their relationship and that's when the accusations began to fly.
New text messages revealed. The reason I wrote yesterday that I wanted to hear more of Bauer's side of the story was because some of the accuser's story didnt add up. Why, during their first encounter, didnt she leave right away when she regained consciousness, instead staying with Bauer for several hours? Why did she then have a second encounter with Bauer?
I'm just spitballing here but one possibility is that the sex, though violent and very kinky, was entirely consensual and that initially, the accuser had no intention of making accusations against Bauer. But then Bauer ended their relationship and that's when the accusations began to fly.
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7-day Administrative Leave Issued by MLB.
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Administrative leave?
That sounds like a cop forced to do filing work for a week or two while they sort out a complaint.
That sounds like a cop forced to do filing work for a week or two while they sort out a complaint.
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Full official statement from mlbdotcom:
“MLB’s investigation into the allegations made against Trevor Bauer is ongoing. While no determination in the case has been made, we have made the decision to place Mr. Bauer on seven-day administrative leave effective immediately. MLB continues to collect information in our ongoing investigation concurrent with the Pasadena Police Department’s active criminal investigation. We will comment further at the appropriate time.”
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My guess is administrative leave means (like the police officer in Edgy's example) he's still getting paid rather than suspended, when he wouldn't.kcmets wrote: ↑Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:16 pm Full official statement from mlbdotcom:
“MLB’s investigation into the allegations made against Trevor Bauer is ongoing. While no determination in the case has been made, we have made the decision to place Mr. Bauer on seven-day administrative leave effective immediately. MLB continues to collect information in our ongoing investigation concurrent with the Pasadena Police Department’s active criminal investigation. We will comment further at the appropriate time.”
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Well, here's hoping he has to drag the infield dirt or something to keep collecting his megabuxx.
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Ken Rosenthal had a column in the Athletic explaining it. Administrative leave is not disciplinary, the player continues to get paid, no impact to service time accrual, etc. He just doesn’t play. The player also gets to request an immediate (within 24 hours) hearing for reinstatement.
The union could still probably file a grievance if they wanted (especially if missing a start contributed to missing a performance incentive, eg. innings pitched or number of games started) but they’re less likely to win since it was a Commissioner action, not a team action.
The union could still probably file a grievance if they wanted (especially if missing a start contributed to missing a performance incentive, eg. innings pitched or number of games started) but they’re less likely to win since it was a Commissioner action, not a team action.
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Yes. Those were terrific and informative pieces. Others here have recommended subscribing to The Athletic before me, but I'll join in. It's worth it and if you search around, you'll find great introductory deals. I held out for a few weeks when my subscription expired and the renewal was like $40 or $50/year until lower and lower offers started coming my way and I finally renewed for $1.00/month.Gwreck wrote: ↑Fri Jul 02, 2021 2:43 pm Ken Rosenthal had a column in the Athletic explaining it. Administrative leave is not disciplinary, the player continues to get paid, no impact to service time accrual, etc. He just doesn’t play. The player also gets to request an immediate (within 24 hours) hearing for reinstatement.
The union could still probably file a grievance if they wanted (especially if missing a start contributed to missing a performance incentive, eg. innings pitched or number of games started) but they’re less likely to win since it was a Commissioner action, not a team action.
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I just realized that he took a shorter-term, higher-annual-vaule deal because he thought his market leverage would be better in a few years.
Even if he collects on this deal, that's it, right? That decision cost him, what, another $200 million?
Even if he collects on this deal, that's it, right? That decision cost him, what, another $200 million?
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If what he allegedly did is proven to be true, he would have to lick the bases clean after games and then go to jail.
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Well, we're referring to administrative leave here, and not criminal punishment, but sure.
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And not signing Norihiro Nakamura.
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The "Administrative Leave" for Bauer has been extended from the initial seven days to an additional seven days.
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