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Very exciting early career and I was pleased that he ultimately outshined Harvey and Syndergaard

I wish him well. Maybe he’ll return some day.

No no no no no no

My initial reaction, after "OH NO" and "F HIM", is that he wanted to pitch elsewhere because Steve Cohen can outbid anybody for anything if he wants to do so.

That is a lot to pay a guy that has averaged 7 wins per season in his last 5 seasons.

I'm staying away from Twitter 🤣

It was certainly a pleasure to with him pitch , all the best I guess, not where I would want to end my career but that money will soften the blow

Sadly, I got this right in the "Bochy, Texas Manager" thread of October 21:
"I hope that this doesn't mean that they are "all in" for '23 to the extent that they will do anything to get Jake but Bochy wouldn't come out of retirement for a rebuild."

He is the best pitcher I have ever rooted for.

Uncle Steve was right not to pay that

Jake simply wanted to go elsewhere

Brittle body and Texas' concern now

Sign Verlander and Rodon

TransMonk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:30 pm He is the best pitcher I have ever rooted for.

Over Tom?

I’m too young to have rooted for Tom. I remember Doc but not enough to appreciate his stuff at the time. Every time I watched deGrom, I was aware of his greatness.

I forget I am old and remember Tom well

However, it is a close call for me regarding Jake vs Tom

Doc was mercurial

metirish wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:21 pm I'm staying away from Twitter 🤣

It was certainly a pleasure to with him pitch , all the best I guess, not where I would want to end my career but that money will soften the blow

I just now re-enabled my twitter account to fully immerse myself in all the complicated feelings 🥴

My memory was that I thought he was a pretty good pitcher.

I dunno. The frequent arm trouble seems more than bad luck and the subpar September performance was too consistently off from the usual DeGrominance to be chalked up to statistical anomaly.

My wild guess, which is pretty bad but no worse than anyone else's, is that at best he has three strong seasons left in him, and $185M is way too much to pay for three strong seasons.

Sucks to lose him, but that contract can turn into an albatross. Justin Verlander has to be a very happy man right about now.

ashie62 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:32 pm

TransMonk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:30 pm He is the best pitcher I have ever rooted for.

Over Tom?

Jake's underrated. He's not the best pitcher in baseball when healthy. He's the best that ever was, when healthy. That said and until I get over this, fuck him. Also, the Mets never had a chance. This was a fait accompli, going back who knows how long. Maybe more than a year. It was obvious to me, the way I saw things that he wasnt signing with the Mets.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:06 pm

ashie62 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:32 pm

TransMonk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:30 pm He is the best pitcher I have ever rooted for.

Over Tom?

Jake's underrated. He's not the best pitcher in baseball when healthy. He's the best that ever was, when healthy. That said and until I get over this, fuck him. Also, the Mets never had a chance. This was a fait accompli, going back who knows how long. Maybe more than a year. It was obvious to me, the way I saw things that he wasnt signing with the Mets.

Jeez, the contract's AAV is $37M, way less than Scerzer's. The Mets didnt have a chance and it looks like they weren't even given a chance. Jake probably voted for Trump, too, he loves Texas so much.

Sad, woulda liked him to retire a Met, but five years at top dollar violates my principles about signing elderly pitchers. Let the Rangers pay him for what he did (and didn't do) as a Met, and let's pay someone else to head up our starting staff.

He was a simple kind of man.

on the bright side, our offense just got 20% better, assuming he were to have made all his starts.

WOW.

My memory is that he was inscrutable, and trying to predict what he'd do was folly. The guy's cards were always close to his chest. Except, of course, for the idea that maybe he kept his cards close because this was the card he always knew he'd be likely to play.

I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't want to play for me.

Let's use the $$ to get that Japanese guy and that other dude

Puma says the Mets never even got to make a final offer, that part hurts a little I think

The one that also hits?

That All-Star Game performance - 10 pitches and three strikeouts.

It was a privilege to watch him pitch in a Mets uniform. I hope he goes 0-32 for the next five years though.