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Various beat writers have it at 8 years / $162 million

Brandon from Wyoming embraces New York. Way to be, elder statesMet.

Great to have Nimmo back

Lifelong Met

Damn, Hayseed got PAID! Good for him, good for us. I really like the team with Nimmo in CF and Marte in right. Comfortable with him in center for at least 4 of those 8 years. Raise a cold, glass of 2% vitamin D milk for our wholesome boy.

I'm glad he is back and glad it is not my money!

Great move!

I am so happy. I was terribly worried thus team would be dull and not fun to watch without this palooka

Very pleased to see that Nimmo is back in the fold. He brings energy to the team. Would like a right handed DH (not named Ruf) and a few more quality arms for the pen.

He’s pointing to the heavens tonight! Great news!!

yay!

now go extend squirrel and polar bear!

um, and if you've still got cash to throw about, i wouldn't terribly mind senga. but i'm greedy and it ain't my money.

A Boy Named Seo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:04 pm Damn, Hayseed got PAID! Good for him, good for us. I really like the team with Nimmo in CF and Marte in right.

Aye. We were looking at an outfield of Cahna, Marte, and McNeil, and that was feeling a bit jerry-rigged.

Glad they kept Nimmo, but 8 years, sheesh.

On-basin' skills are the last thing to go, so they are.

He would likely be a career Met if it plays out.

I felt there were three players that were essential to sign: Diaz, Nimmo, and DeGrom.

Lefty Specialist wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:07 pm Glad they kept Nimmo, but 8 years, sheesh.

He's the kind of guy who can lose .050 points off his OBA and still help you, lose range in the OF and some arm strength and still play a decent LF, lose some speed and run the bases ok. And I don't expect that process to start for a little while.

I read something interesting about these long-range-contracts today--that it's better to pay 200 million over 10 years, even though those last few years are $$$ flushed down the donnicker, than it is to pay 150 mil over five because the luxury tax will kill you. Not saying it's true but it makes some sense.

This is great news. He's really a player that didn't have an equivalent out there in the FA market so I'm glad he's staying put.

Lefty Specialist wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:07 pm Glad they kept Nimmo, but 8 years, sheesh.

At least it's not Eleven!

based on this signing, and robertson too, fangraphs' depth charts has the mets projected as the second best team in the mlb, with a projected WAR of 51.5, just ahead of the braves at 50.9. the padres sit atop the list with a projected WAR of 52.3. a replacement-level team sits around 45-wins, as near as i can tell.

the mets project currently to having the 7th best batters/fielders, and the best pitching staff.

not a bad place to be after the winter meetings.

not gonna fret too much over like 2029. Nimmo's a good player and happy to have him around for a while. I'd like him to get his game more in-line with his pre-2022 metrics, feel like he adjusted a little too much last year and took fewer walks. He swung A LOT more, particularly out of the zone, which seems like a bad-ish habit to get into. Those are the kind of things that can hurt you in aging, swinging at hard to hit pitches and then suddenly you can't make the contact you wanted to. I think this might have been a team-philosophy thing last year, more contact. It hurt his numbers a bit. Maybe there's an argument to be made that team-wide adherence to this philosophy lifts team offense at expense of individual, but I'm not sure I buy that.

Seems like Mets will lead the league in HBP again though.

Brandon Nimmo is currently 34th in PA for the Mets, with 2368. Michael Conforto the "active" leader (also a guy I wouldn't mind bringing back, for the power) with 2980. David Wright has 6872. Nimmo would have to average 563 a year. Only 15 guys have gotten that many over the last 8 (and maybe 10 more prorated Covid year)

323 walks is 20th (9 behind Duda). Wright had 762. ~55 walks a season does that. His career BB% easily gets that done, his 2022, not so much.

Already leads in HBP.

Fman99 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:27 am This is great news. He's really a player that didn't have an equivalent out there in the FA market so I'm glad he's staying put.

That lack of an equivalent is the reason he got eight years instead of five or six. Players with legit offensive value who can hold their own in center are really hard to come by right now. Most of the league (or at least, the portion of the league that spends money this time of year) was in on him. And the Mets obviously already knew he was a good fit here and the plan B's, whatever they were, were a lot less palatable. Personally I'm a little squeamish at eight years, but I'd much rather have him than not have him.

fangraphs sez nimmo's 5.4 WAR 2022 was worth $43M. he projects next year at 4.6 WAR, which is a reasonable and safe projection. at that level of production, he'll could end up being quite a bargain, since OBP isn't valued in the market nearly as much as big whomping homers, or shortstopping.

That's an impressive WAR number considering he put his walk tool on the shelf the second half of the year.

If you're Buck, do you strategize with him on getting his walks total back to where it was? Or leave him be?

In other words, is Nimmo's decline in walks a problem or a one-year blip?

Nimmo himself would be the one to know whether he's changed his approach to pitch selection and recognition, and if so, whether that change will continue into 2023. Or .maybe his pitch recognition skills are suddenly in decline. Or if it's health related, and then, how permanent that is. Unless it's just randomness. Or maybe the pitches are in the strike zone more and more often. Me, I wouldnt have a clue, but thanks for asking. But me and Nimmo are going to the FIFA World Cup final next week so I'll be sure to ask him on your behalf when we're in Qatar. Great question, though. Keep 'em coming. You're on a roll. Unless anybody else here already knows this answer. Also, I'd like to know why Brandon didn't hit a homer on May 8, 2021.

And finally, problem and one year blip aren't mutually exclusive.But keep the questions coming. Do you think that Buck should also work on having Nimmo hit 50 or 60 HR's next season? 50 or 60 is so much better than mid-teens.