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Might as well get this one started.

I found categories where current Mets players rank in the Top Fifty. In offensive categories, it's a lot of Nimmo, Alonso, and McNeil, with the occasional Lindor. There's very little longevity among pitchers now that deGrom and Lugo have departed.

These are the guys who we hope to see moving up in the ranks this season:

BATTING

Games:
Brandon Nimmo 39th (608)
Pete Alonso 46th (530)
Jeff McNeil 47th (516)

At Bats:
Brandon Nimmo 37th (1,973)
Pete Alonso 38th (1,963)
Jeff McNeil 43rd (1,837)

Runs:
Brandon Nimmo 21st (335)
Pete Alonso 27th (310)
Jeff McNeil 40th (258)


Hits:
Jeff McNeil 31st (563)
Brandon Nimmo 34th (530)
Pete Alonso 39th (512)


Doubles:
Jeff McNeil 21st (121)
Brandon Nimmo 29th (tie, with C. Granderson, 106)
Pete Alonso 45th (tie, with B. Gilkey, 90)


Triples:
Brandon Nimmo 11th (tie, with A. Pagan, 23)
Jeff McNeil 49th (tie, with four other players, 9)

Home Runs:
Pete Alonso 7th (146)
Brandon Nimmo 33rd (tie, with J. Olerud, 63)
Jeff McNeil and Francisco Lindor 45th (tie, with three other players, 46)

Runs Batted In:
Pete Alonso 17th (380)
Jeff McNeil 45th (tie, with B. Huskey, 214)
Brandon Nimmo 47th (213)


Walks:
Brandon Nimmo 20th (tie, with J. Stearns, 323)
Pete Alonso 33rd (223)


Strikeouts:
Brandon Nimmo 17th (529)
Pete Alonso 20th (499)


Total Bases:
Pete Alonso 22nd (1,050)
Brandon Nimmo 35th (871)
Jeff McNeil 37th (840)


Extra-Base Hits:
Pete Alonso 17th (241)
Brandon Nimmo 29th (192)
Jeff McNeil 32nd (176)


Stolen Bases:
Francisco Lindor 43rd (tied with two other players, 26)
Brandon Nimmo 48th (tied with two other players, 23)


PITCHING

Games:
Edwin Diaz 25th (216)


Strikeouts:
Edwin Diaz 48th (356)


Saves:
Edwin Diaz 6th (96)

even with 5 years to come Diaz would have to do very well to catch John Franco @ 276

Nimmo would seem to have a good chance at the walks if he stays the 8 years - and Pete the dingers with an extra 2/3 years.

Jeff McNeil, Professional Met!

With deGrom having left for his comfort zone, the slavery belt, that list is now so uninteresting, other than Alonso's meteoric rise up the Mets all-time HR ranks. I'll check back in in a coupl'a years.

lindor should be on most of those offensive lists by the end of the season.

Here's the category where the contemporary class really shines.

Times Hit by Pitch

1) Brandon Nimmo: 57
2) Pete Alonso: 51
3) Jeff McNeil: 50 (tied with Michael Conforto)

14) Mark Canha: 28 (tied with Jeff Kent and John Olerud)

43) Francisco Lindor: 15 (tied with Tommie Agee, Benny Agbayani, Justin Turner, Wilmer Flores, and Yoenis Cespedes)

53) Starling Marte: 13 (tied with Frank Thomas, Lee Mazzilli, Howard Johnson, Carl Everett, Carlos Beltran, and Asdrubal Cabrera)

Pete Alonso currently projects to 90 home runs and 180 runs batted in.

Look who just tied Dave Kingman on the Mets' all-time home run list:

1. Darryl Strawberry 252
2. David Wright 242
3. Mike Piazza 220
4. Howard Johnson 192
5. Dave Kingman, Pete Alonso 154
7. Carlos Beltran 149
8. Michael Conforto 132
9. Lucas Duda 125
10. Todd Hundley 124

If the Mets extend him, he'll have a shot at setting a new record in 2025.

Kingman is the only guy on that list besides Strawberry who is a former franchise leader.

The Mets all-time HR record is extremely underwhelming for a 60 year old franchise.

I agree. I hope Pete sticks around long enough to whelm it up a bit.

Edgy MD wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:20 am Kingman is the only guy on that list besides Strawberry who is a former franchise leader.

Yes. The list is pretty much Dave Kingman and eight guys who never caught up to Darryl Strawberry.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:32 am

Edgy MD wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:20 am Kingman is the only guy on that list besides Strawberry who is a former franchise leader.

Yes. The list is pretty much Dave Kingman and eight guys who never caught up to Darryl Strawberry.

That's real quirky. But not as quirky as no Met ever winning the league MVP award.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:01 am Look who just tied Dave Kingman on the Mets' all-time home run list:

1. Darryl Strawberry 252
2. David Wright 242
3. Mike Piazza 220
4. Howard Johnson 192
5. Dave Kingman, Pete Alonso 154
7. Carlos Beltran 149
8. Michael Conforto 132
9. Lucas Duda 125
10. Todd Hundley 124

If the Mets extend him, he'll have a shot at setting a new record in 2025.

Strawberry became the Mets all-time HR leader almost 35 years ago to the day, on April 20, 1988, when he hit his 155th Met HR off of the Phillies' Shane Rawley, passing then all-time HR leader, Dave Kingman.

Few would have guessed that Kingman had another 100 homers left in his bat when the Mets released him, and probably at least a few more when MLB collusion ended his career for good.

If the Mets had a DH slot to use, Kingman might theoretically still be the leader.

(Or alternatively, if the Mets had a DH slot, Rusty Staub would have theoretically reached 3000 hits and 300 homers and theoretically been in the Hall of Fame.)

No. 20 is now No. 5, directly behind No. 20 , 4-baggerwise.

At this rate he'll capture Hojo this year

This is the first day since September 3, 1976, that Dave Kingman doesn't have one of the top five home run totals in Mets history. Dave tied Ron Swoboda for fifth on 9/4 and passed him on 9/6.

Pete Alonso started the year with 380 runs batted in. So far, he's climbed past Dave Kingman, Michael Conforto, Todd Hundley, Rusty Staub, and Daniel Murphy and has moved from 17th place to 12th.

ALL-TIME METS LEADERS IN RUNS BATTED IN
1. David Wright 970
2. Darryl Strawberry 733
3. Mike Piazza 655
4. Howard Johnson 629
5. Ed Kranepool 614
6. Carlos Beltran 559
7. Edgardo Alfonzo 538
8. Cleon Jones 521
Jose Reyes 521
10. Keith Hernandez 468
11. Kevin McReynolds 456
12. Pete Alonso 426
13. Daniel Murphy 402
14. Rusty Staub 399
15. Todd Hundley 397
16. Michael Conforto 396
17. Dave Kingman 389
18. Lucas Duda 378
19. George Foster 361
20. Jerry Grote 357

Pete has 20 home runs to date this year, but only four doubles and one triple. His 25 extra-base hits have moved him from 17th place to 15th. He has passed Keith Hernandez and Todd Hundley.

EXTRA-BASE HITS
1. David Wright 658
2. Jose Reyes 493
3. Darryl Strawberry 469
4. Howard Johnson 424
5. Mike Piazza 415
6. Carlos Beltran 374
7. Ed Kranepool 368
8. Edgardo Alfonzo 346
9. Daniel Murphy 310
10. Cleon Jones 308
11. Mookie Wilson 292
12. Kevin McReynolds 289
13. Michael Conforto 277
14. Lucas Duda 274
15. Pete Alonso 266
16. Keith Hernandez 249
Todd Hundley 249
18. Lee Mazzilli 238
19. Dave Kingman 230
20. Curtis Granderson 213

His 115 total bases have allowed him to advance from 22nd place to 18th, passing Dave Kingman, Rusty Staub, Todd Hundley, and Lucas Duda.

TOTAL BASES
1. David Wright 2,945
2. Jose Reyes 2,356
3. Ed Kranepool 2,047
4. Darryl Strawberry 2,028
5. Mike Piazza 1,885
6. Howard Johnson 1,823
7. Edgardo Alfonzo 1,736
8. Cleon Jones 1,715
9. Mookie Wilson 1,586
10. Carlos Beltran 1,567
11. Daniel Murphy 1,421
12. Keith Hernandez 1,358
13. Kevin McReynolds 1,338
14. Jerry Grote 1,278
15. Bud Harrelson 1,260
16. Michael Conforto 1,195
17. Lee Mazzilli 1,192
18. Pete Alonso 1,165
19. Lucas Duda 1,141
20. Todd Hundley 1,116
21. Rusty Staub 1,078
22. Dave Kingman 1,053

Homers in a Season by a Met

1) Pete Alonso (2019): 53
Pete Alonso Projected to End of Season: 48.48
T2) Todd Hundley (1996): 41
T2) Carlos Beltran (2006): 41
T2) Pete Alonso (2023): 41
T5) Mike Piazza (1999): 40
T5) Pete Alonso (2022): 40
T7) Darryl Strawberry (1987): 39
T7) Darryl Strawberry (1988): 39
T9) Howard Johnson (1991): 38
T9) Mike Piazza (2000): 38
T9) Carlos Delgado (2006): 38
T9) Carlos Delgado (2008): 38

I've got Alonso on pace for 49.01 HR's, because he missed nine games due to an injury. My calculation assumes he won't get injured anymore.

The formula is (41 x (162-9)) / (137-9).

So Alonso is now 62 HRs behind Straw's franchise record and still has 20+ games to go this year to chop that down a bit more.
That means that there's a possibility of equalizing or bettering the mark by the end of next season.


Assuming that ... y'know, he's still here come April.

Homers in a Season by a Met

1) Pete Alonso (2019): 53
Pete Alonso Projected to End of Season: 49.85
2) Pete Alonso (2023): 44
T3) Todd Hundley (1996): 41
T3) Carlos Beltran (2006): 41
T5) Mike Piazza (1999): 40
T5) Pete Alonso (2022): 40
T7) Darryl Strawberry (1987): 39
T7) Darryl Strawberry (1988): 39
T9) Howard Johnson (1991): 38
T9) Mike Piazza (2000): 38
T9) Carlos Delgado (2006): 38
T9) Carlos Delgado (2008): 38

Homers in a Season by a Mets Rookie

1) Pete Alonso (2019): 53
Francisco Alvarez Projected to End of Season: 27.22
2) Darryl Strawberry (1983): 26
3) Francisco Alvarez (2023): 22
T4) Ron Swoboda (1965): 19
T4) Ike Davis (2010): 19
T6) John Milner (1972): 17
T6) Jay Payton (2000): 17
8) Johnny Lewis (1965): 15
T9) Benny Agbayani (1999): 14
T9) David Wright (2004): 14

Jeff McNeil has moved into the Top Twenty all-time in base hits. He should pass Rusty Staub this year, and maybe Rey Ordonez.

Brandon Nimmo is in 22nd place, and Pete Alonso in 28th.

HITS
1. David Wright 1,777
2. Jose Reyes 1,534
3. Ed Kranepool 1,418
4. Cleon Jones 1,188
5. Edgardo Alfonzo 1,136
6. Mookie Wilson 1,112
7. Bud Harrelson 1,029
8. Mike Piazza 1,028
9. Darryl Strawberry 1,025
10. Howard Johnson 997
11. Jerry Grote 994
12. Daniel Murphy 967
13. Keith Hernandez 939
14. Carlos Beltran 878
15. Lee Mazzilli 796
16. Kevin McReynolds 791
17. Felix Millan 743
18. Rey Ordonez 720
19. Rusty Staub 709
20. Jeff McNeil 705
21. John Stearns 695
22. Brandon Nimmo 672
23. Wally Backman 670
24. Wayne Garrett 667
25. Michael Conforto 650
26. Hubie Brooks 640
27. Tommie Agee 632
28. Pete Alonso 623
29. Lucas Duda 614
30. Todd Hundley 612


DOUBLES

Nimmo and McNeil are both in the Top Twenty.

1. David Wright 390
2. Jose Reyes 272
3. Daniel Murphy 228
4. Ed Kranepool 225
5. Howard Johnson 214
6. Edgardo Alfonzo 212
7. Carlos Beltran 208
8. Mike Piazza 193
9. Darryl Strawberry 187
10. Cleon Jones 182
11. Mookie Wilson 170
12. Keith Hernandez 159
13. Kevin McReynolds 153
14. John Stearns 152
15. Lee Mazzilli 148
16. Lucas Duda 146
17. Jerry Grote 143
Jeff McNeil 143
19. Michael Conforto 141
20. Brandon Nimmo 131

RUNS
Nimmo and Alonso are in the Top Twenty, and McNeil is in 24th place.
1. David Wright 949
2. Jose Reyes 885
3. Darryl Strawberry 662
4. Howard Johnson 627
5. Edgardo Alfonzo 614
6. Mookie Wilson 592
7. Cleon Jones 563
8. Carlos Beltran 551
9. Ed Kranepool 536
10. Mike Piazza 532
11. Bud Harrelson 490
12. Keith Hernandez 455
13. Daniel Murphy 422
14. Brandon Nimmo 415
15. Kevin McReynolds 405
16. Lee Mazzilli 404
17. Michael Conforto 400
18. Pete Alonso 392
19. Wayne Garrett 389
20. Wally Backman 359
21. Tommie Agee 344
22. Todd Hundley 340
23. John Stearns 334
24. Jeff McNeil 326
25. Lucas Duda 325

RUNS BATTED IN
Pete Alonso has knocked Keith Hernandez out of the Top Ten.

1. David Wright 970
2. Darryl Strawberry 733
3. Mike Piazza 655
4. Howard Johnson 629
5. Ed Kranepool 614
6. Carlos Beltran 559
7. Edgardo Alfonzo 538
8. Cleon Jones 521
Jose Reyes 521
10. Pete Alonso 485
11. Keith Hernandez 468
12. Kevin McReynolds 456
13. Daniel Murphy 402
14. Rusty Staub 399
15. Todd Hundley 397