Tender is the Night

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Tender is the Night

Post by MFS62 » Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:42 pm

8:00 Tonight is the deadline for making tender offers to eligible players.
Here's the list:(And estimated 2024 salaries)
1B Pete Alonso $22 million
DH Daniel Vogelbach $2.6 million
RHP Drew Smith $2.2 million
LHP David Peterson $2.0 million
RHP Trevor Gott $2.0 million
LHP Joey Lucchesi $2.0 million
INF Luis Guillorme $1.7 million
OF DJ Stewart $1.5 million
RHP Jeff Brigham $1.1 million
RHP Sam Coonrod $900,000

Which ones would you want to keep?
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Re: Tender is the Night

Post by Benjamin Grimm » Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:51 pm

I'm most curious to see what happens with Vogelbach. I, for one, would let him go.

I've seen rumors that Drew Smith might be traded before the deadline hits.
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Post by Chad ochoseis » Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:57 pm

I think we definitely want to keep that Alonso guy.
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Re: Tender is the Night

Post by whippoorwill » Fri Nov 17, 2023 5:00 pm

Keep the position players; put the pitchers on a slow boat to China
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Post by Marshmallowmilkshake » Fri Nov 17, 2023 5:09 pm

Tender:

1B Pete Alonso $22 million
RHP Drew Smith $2.2 million
LHP David Peterson $2.0 million
LHP Joey Lucchesi $2.0 million
OF DJ Stewart $1.5 million
RHP Jeff Brigham $1.1 million
RHP Sam Coonrod $900,000

Non-Tender:

DH Daniel Vogelbach $2.6 million
INF Luis Guillorme $1.7 million
RHP Trevor Gott $2.0 million
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Re: Tender is the Night

Post by MFS62 » Fri Nov 17, 2023 5:16 pm

Peterson is an interesting case. He is on the IL. I'm not sure if you can non-tender a player on the IL because he would lose his medical benefits (in his case rehab from surgery). I would think the MLBPA would be against that policy.
Can a team do that under the current bargaining agreement?

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Post by Edgy MD » Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:32 pm

There's no injured list in the off-season. Peterson is, by the rules, at the end of his contract and hoping for a new one.
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Post by whippoorwill » Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:30 pm

So he’s on his own for doctor bills?

Ouch

You know I never thought of that. Do the players get insured by the team or by the union?
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Re: Tender is the Night

Post by G-Fafif » Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:48 pm

Vogey has been non-tendered.
Hope for the best. Expect the Mets.
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Post by G-Fafif » Fri Nov 17, 2023 8:07 pm

Hope for the best. Expect the Mets.
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Post by G-Fafif » Fri Nov 17, 2023 8:10 pm

Hope for the best. Expect the Mets.
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Post by MFS62 » Fri Nov 17, 2023 8:33 pm

Good.
I think Joey and smith will be key parts of the staff next year.
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Post by Edgy MD » Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:09 pm

Guillorme and Vogelbach really fell into disuse the last month of the season.

Really, Vogelbach did. Guillorme spent much of the second half hurt, with the Mets in no hurry to get him back on the field. When he finally came back, he appeared in one game and sat for another 10 days.

He'll probably have a contract with somebody before the week is out.
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Re: Tender is the Night

Post by Fman99 » Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:03 am

Peace out to Trevor Gott, Fwife's most hated Met since I cannot recall
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Post by Frayed Knot » Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:10 am

From what I heard (secret sources) your wife's testimony was the reason they released him.
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Post by whippoorwill » Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:15 am

Lol
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Post by ashie62 » Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:20 am

Happy to see DJ back
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Post by kcmets » Sat Nov 18, 2023 11:00 am

I'll miss Vogie, he was huge.
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Post by Johnny Lunchbucket » Sat Nov 18, 2023 11:49 am

Vogue and Gitmo were both memorable players and true Mets
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Re: Tender is the Night

Post by Edgy MD » Sat Nov 18, 2023 11:59 am

It's like the world didn't even know it needed a cross between Lucas Duda and Chris Farley, and there this guy was.
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Re: Tender is the Night

Post by MFS62 » Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:07 pm

kcmets wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 11:00 am I'll miss Vogie, he was huge.
OOOOOOHH!
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Post by MFS62 » Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:02 pm

Here's the full list:
https://www.mlb.com/news/non-tendered-m ... ts-2023-24

Slim pickings.
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Re: Tender is the Night

Post by DocTee » Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:09 am

Among those non-tendered there are a few with Metly pedigree: Dom Smith, Thomas Szapucki, and--more recently if only tangentially, Penn Murfee
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Post by Edgy MD » Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:52 pm

Luis Guillorme, Sr. certainly seems to think his son is off to other horizons.

Also doesn't appear to be much of a Mickey Callaway fan.

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Re: Tender is the Night

Post by MFS62 » Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:32 am

Classy. He thanked the "little guys".
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