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Should we Begin to talk about Cease?

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:14 pm
by Benjamin Grimm
Dylan Cease is a name that's been getting a lot of attention. He's about to turn 28 and has two seasons before he can become a free agent.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... dy01.shtml

He had an ERA of 4.58 last year in 177 innings over 33 starts with the White Sox.

He eats a lot of innings. (It's a sign of the times that 177 innings seems like "a lot".)

He's been linked to the Mets, but I don't see it happening. A number of teams appear to be interested, and I doubt that the Mets would want to part with the (presumably younger) players it would take to get him. But that doesn't mean we can't talk about him, if we're so inclined.

Re: Should we Begin to talk about Cease?

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:52 pm
by Fman99
I had to look him up. He was good in 2021 and great in 2022 (finishing 2nd in the AL CY Young vote). And then last year he sucked a big fat tuna. So I don't know. Does he still suck or not? Can we ask him first?

Re: Should we Begin to talk about Cease?

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 10:11 pm
by Lefty Specialist
Braves apparently hot on his trail, which means he'll kill us next year.

Re: Should we Begin to talk about Cease?

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:06 am
by metirish
Braves should Cease and desist

Re: Should we Begin to talk about Cease?

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:44 am
by kcmets
Cease and Desist is just begging to be a 2024 NY Post cover. Whether
it is a positive headline or not for the Mets remains to been seen.

Re: Should we Begin to talk about Cease?

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:36 am
by Johnny Lunchbucket
Guy's got a good mustache.

Re: Should we Begin to talk about Cease?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:16 pm
by G-Fafif
About to be a Padre.

Re: Should we Begin to talk about Cease?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:16 pm
by Edgy MD
We need a new Dylan.

Re: Should we Begin to talk about Cease?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:34 pm
by A Boy Named Seo
Very curious to see what the prospect cost for the Padres is for 2 years of Cease.

Re: Should we Begin to talk about Cease?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:34 pm
by Frayed Knot
Edgy MD wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:16 pm We need a new Dylan.
Bruce? Donovan? John Prine, Loudon Wainwright?

Re: Should we Begin to talk about Cease?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:38 pm
by Edgy MD
I'm hoping on getting Steve Forbert in on a minor-league deal.

Re: Should we Begin to talk about Cease?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:07 pm
by A Boy Named Seo
Frayed Knot wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:34 pm
Edgy MD wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:16 pm We need a new Dylan.
Bruce? Donovan? John Prine, Loudon Wainwright?
I love him, but I don't think Prine's available for the gig.

Re: Should we Begin to talk about Cease?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:35 pm
by Bob Alpacadaca
Keeps him away from the Yankees.

Re: Should we Begin to talk about Cease?

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:21 pm
by metirish
A Boy Named Seo wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:34 pm Very curious to see what the prospect cost for the Padres is for 2 years of Cease.

You an cease wondering now

Re: Should we Begin to talk about Cease?

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:04 am
by A Boy Named Seo
metirish wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:21 pm
A Boy Named Seo wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:34 pm Very curious to see what the prospect cost for the Padres is for 2 years of Cease.

You an cease wondering now
Cool. I think that's the Pads #5, 7 and 8 prospects (per MLB) plus a good major league relief pitcher for two years of Cease. There's no direct comparison to what a Pete Alonso trade might look like (I can't stop thinking about our future with and without Pete), but Pete is one year older, has one year less of team control and Cease has been worth more fWAR than Pete for each of the last three seasons (that surprised me!).

If the Mets traded Pete today, all these things would be factored in even if the two star players are completely different varieties of stars. And if the Mets suck and teams come sniffing for Pete in July, I'm sure any hope that the return would be greater due to desperation on the part of contending teams would be offset by Pete only having a couple months left of service time by then. Fair warning, I may start a Pete Alonso WATP thread.

Re: Should we Begin to talk about Cease?

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:59 am
by metirish

Let's see

Re: Should we Begin to talk about Cease?

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:46 pm
by Frayed Knot
If we ever decide to curtail a discussion of former Israeli Prime Ministers I sure hope we title the thread, 'Should we cease to talk about Begin?'

Re: Should we Begin to talk about Cease?

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:08 pm
by A Boy Named Seo
metirish wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:59 am

Let's see
Daniel Clark sports guy with the flamin hot takes

Re: Should we Begin to talk about Cease?

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:39 pm
by Edgy MD
A Boy Named Seo wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:04 am... but Pete is one year older, has one year less of team control and Cease has been worth more fWAR than Pete for each of the last three seasons (that surprised me!).
This is worth underscoring. Until he stops making the chase for homerun totals, he won't realize his best level.