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May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:37 pm
by A Boy Named Seo
Mets officially in on him, along with some other bozos, per MLBTR per MLB per Morosi.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/ ... olito.html

He was absolutely awful last year but I want him bigly. What sez you?

Re: May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 5:55 am
by Fman99
Another guy with a 2022 fork sticking out of his back. I guess him and Severino can sit together on the plane.

Re: May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:54 am
by Johnny Lunchbucket
Pretty durable.

Re: May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:34 am
by Benjamin Grimm
Mike Puma reporting today that the Mets are showing strong interest in Giolito.
Mike Puma wrote:The Mets are showing strong interest in the right-hander, whose top selling point might be his ability to consume innings. Giolito, pitched 184 ¹/₃ innings last season — divided among the White Sox, Angels and Guardians — marking the fourth time since 2018 he surpassed 170 in a season.

He finished with 204 strikeouts last season, which ranked sixth in the American League.

Giolito had a solid first half with the White Sox last season, but beginning in mid-July went through a divorce and was later traded twice, factors that may have contributed to his shaky numbers after the All-Star break.

Overall, he finished 8-15 with a 4.88 ERA in 33 starts and his 41 homers allowed led the AL.

But the fact he is only 29 and received Cy Young award votes as recently as 2021 are positives for Giolito, who has also been linked to the Dodgers and Red Sox, among others, this winter.
https://nypost.com/2023/12/26/sports/me ... y-options/

Re: May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:13 pm
by A Boy Named Seo
He's been bad but he seems to fit the current bill:

1) cheap(er) compared to top tier guys
2) short-term deal pretty damn likely
3) could surprise everyone and be good again
bonus stuff
4) not over 30
5) durable

I vote yes.

Re: May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:21 pm
by Benjamin Grimm
I'd be okay with it too.

Re: May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 4:43 pm
by nymr83
A Boy Named Seo wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:13 pm He's been bad but he seems to fit the current bill:

1) cheap(er) compared to top tier guys
2) short-term deal pretty damn likely
3) could surprise everyone and be good again
bonus stuff
4) not over 30
5) durable

I vote yes.
Other than #4 these seem like Fred Wilpon criteria.

Re: May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:10 pm
by MFS62
I'll sign up for a first half Lucas, please.
But those 41 HR scare me a bit.

Later

Re: May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:17 pm
by A Boy Named Seo
nymr83 wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 4:43 pm
A Boy Named Seo wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:13 pm He's been bad but he seems to fit the current bill:

1) cheap(er) compared to top tier guys
2) short-term deal pretty damn likely
3) could surprise everyone and be good again
bonus stuff
4) not over 30
5) durable

I vote yes.
Other than #4 these seem like Fred Wilpon criteria.
No one would argue the Mets plan worked last year, but they paid $100MM in luxury taxes for trying. It's nothing like Wilpon.

Re: May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:02 pm
by Lefty Specialist
Only if it's one year and heavy on incentives.

I'm reminded of that scene in Animal House where they're looking at slides of potential pledges; everyones moaning and groaning as the pictures come up, but somebody in back pipes up, "We need the dudes, man."

Right now we need the dudes. They have a 3-man starting staff at present.

Re: May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:28 pm
by Edgy MD
I think it was "We need the dues," said in the response to the consideration of pledge Larry "Pinto" Kruger."

I feel like I can confidently predict Giolito giving the team (whatever team he signs with) one third of a season of excellence, one third of utter averageness, and one third of utter nothingness — not necessarily in that order.

He's not that deep into his career, and he started 33 games last year, but man, he brought almost nothing the second half.

Re: May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:37 am
by ashie62
Giolito reminds me of Vince Velasquez

Hard thrower gopher thrower

They need pitchers and dues so have at it. Better than Flounder going to the hill

Re: May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:06 am
by MFS62
Benjamin Grimm wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:34 am Mike Puma reporting today that the Mets are showing strong interest in Giolito.
I have strong interest in Kate Beckinsale. But that doesn't mean I'll get her.
Later

Re: May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:21 am
by Benjamin Grimm
You'd have a better chance if you were a billionaire.

Re: May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:19 pm
by Johnny Lunchbucket
Signs with the Red Sox, 2/38.5 Passan 1st

Re: May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:12 pm
by Centerfield
Lots of money. Two year deal. Not very good. Im ok to take a pass.

But we’ll need some pitching sooner or later.

Re: May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:29 am
by MFS62
I see a gopher grower, who gave up 41 HR last year, signing to pitch half his games in Fenway Park.
And I chuckle.

Later

Re: May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:56 am
by smg58
Two years for about half that and maybe.

Re: May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:35 pm
by A Boy Named Seo
Not feeling too upset coming in 2nd for that dude at that rate. On to the next.

Re: May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:00 pm
by ashie62
In a sense the Red Sox traded Chris Sale for Lucas Giolito

Giolito reminds me of Jerad Eichoff, tee time!

Re: May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 11:21 am
by metirish

Damn

Re: May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 11:29 am
by A Boy Named Seo
That's the BoSox calling Scott Boras

Re: May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 11:46 am
by Johnny Lunchbucket
They were already said to be in on Montgomery.

That leaves us with Snell.

Re: May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 11:51 am
by Benjamin Grimm
Or with Megill or Lucchesi.

Or Hamel or Vasil or Scott. I'm really hoping one of those three turns out to be like Jacob deGrom in 2015. I think this year's Mets rotation needs a fabulous surprise.

Re: May we exchange words about Lucas Giolito?

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:17 pm
by A Boy Named Seo
I predict a Rich Hill reunion.