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Leg issue on the basepaths.

Not good, but he has plenty of time to recover.

Hopefully nothing serious, plenty of time to heal , no more of that carry-on until Spring Training

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Looked like that right knee buckled. Glad he was able to walk off. Edwin Diaz sure couldn't when he did his ACL.

Two guys hurt in separate incidents on the same pitch.

Looks like the longstanding tradition of bloodbath battles between Licey and Aguila continues.

The way his right leg gave out, when he tried to stop and return to first, looked pretty bad. Luckily, he was able to eventually walk off under his own power. Hopefully just a mild strain or sprain. The Mets can't afford to lose any of their players.

It’s the knee.

Oh wow

The Cleveland Clinic wrote:It usually takes six to nine months to recover from a torn ACL. Competitive athletes may need a little longer than this to heal fully before they're cleared to return to their sport. Your provider will tell you when you can resume physical activities.

Nine months would put us in mid-September. So yeah, unless he heals quickly, this looks like he'll miss the 2024 season.

Joe Schultz.
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The three-way competition for the third base job is now down to two, Baty and Vientos. Or three, if you count Joey Wendle. I think the Mets may have to reevaluate their stance that the position will be filled from within. Maurico (in my mind, anyway) was the leading candidate.

This year's likely starting 3B is gone. Stop playing baseball for other teams (the Mets consented to this and should have told him to rest).

Benjamin Grimm wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 1:56 pm The three-way competition for the third base job is now down to two, Baty and Vientos. Or three, if you count Joey Wendle. I think the Mets may have to reevaluate their stance that the position will be filled from within. Maurico (in my mind, anyway) was the leading candidate.

Unless they decide to go after Matt Chapman.

Strange that, like Diaz, it happened under ordinary, non-contact use. Sort of, anyhow. It's an injury associated with soccer, and the break-and-stop maneuver on the basepath is a lot like what soccer players do for a living, but their ACLs blow after they do it hundreds and hundreds of times in a row.

Hard to say whether it happens if he's under the care of Mets trainers. Anecdotally, I think of blown ACLs as more common in amateur soccer than the pros, so maybe, but what do I know? But it's certainly not crazy to think that more rest over the winter would have made this less likely to happen in spring.

Edgy MD wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:27 pm Strange that, like Diaz, it happened under ordinary, non-contact use. Sort of, anyhow. It's an injury associated with soccer, and the break-and-stop maneuver on the basepath is a lot like what soccer players do for a living, but their ACLs blow after they do it hundreds and hundreds of times in a row.

Hard to say whether it happens if he's under the care of Mets trainers. Anecdotally, I think of blown ACLs as more common in amateur soccer than the pros, so maybe, but what do I know? But it's certainly not crazy to think that more rest over the winter would have made this less likely to happen in spring.

The Athletic just ran a piece 5 days ago about the ALC "crisis" in the Premier League. TL;DR it's maybe not as crisis-y as it seems, but there's A LOT of good discussion and guesswork as to the why, including heavy schedule of games, not enough injury preventative training, ramping up training to start a season, tearing the ACL while nursing another injury, type of playing surface, shoes, even genetics. So who the hell knows, it still sucks for Ronny any way you look at it.

https://theathletic.com/5120100/2023/12 ... eague-wsl/

One interesting thing was this:

In the USA, where Kaeding is based, he says 80 per cent of ACL injuries occur in five sports: soccer (football), American football, basketball, rugby and lacrosse. The common denominator between all these says Kaeding is that they are “an aggressive, competitive, cutting sport activity” (cutting meaning an abrupt change of direction).

Mauricio hitting the breaks on the base paths was definitely an abrupt change of direction for his poor knee.

bmfc1 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 1:58 pm Unless they decide to go after Matt Chapman.

A lower cost option, who could platoon with Baty and be a backup shortstop is Gio Urshela.

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Gotta feel for the guy. He finally gets his chance, and then this.

MFS62 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 1:55 pm Joe Schultz.
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Debating whether it should be 'fuckshit' or 'shitfuck'.

I hope I don't sound crass here, but will Mauricio be accumulating service time in 2024? Or since he has options, can they stash him on the IL of the Syracuse roster and delay his eligibility for free agency?

With the winter leagues, teams operate under the assumption that the added development of the prospect justifies the injury risk. I'm not at all sure though that I would allow it for anybody who is (or was, I guess) a good bet to make the Opening Day roster.

Urshela had no pop in his bat last year, but if that was due to a nagging injury that he can heal from with the time off he could be a bargain.

I worry that Chapman's approach is exactly the wrong one for our home ball park, and that he'd basically be Todd Frazier with us.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 1:52 pm

The Cleveland Clinic wrote:It usually takes six to nine months to recover from a torn ACL. Competitive athletes may need a little longer than this to heal fully before they're cleared to return to their sport. Your provider will tell you when you can resume physical activities.

Nine months would put us in mid-September. So yeah, unless he heals quickly, this looks like he'll miss the 2024 season.

Paging Aaron Rodgers' doctor

Edgy MD wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:27 pm. Anecdotally, I think of blown ACLs as more common in amateur soccer than the pros, so maybe, but what do I know? But it's certainly not crazy to think that more rest over the winter would have made this less likely to happen in spring.

I’m pretty sure they’re not that common in amateur football, I’ve been playing for almost 30 seasons and know of 1/2 teammates at most.
Where they have become incredibly common is in elite women’s football, and there’s definitely something that coaches, sports scientists and physios need to figure out
https://www.skysports.com/amp/football ... -to-fix-it

I've seen it once in all my years of organized and pick up basketball games