IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

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Post by G-Fafif » Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:06 am

Luis Severino wears No. 40 on the mound today in Cincinnati. Four o’clock on SNY.
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Post by kcmets » Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:16 pm

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Brandon Nimmo (L) DH
Francisco Lindor (S) SS
Pete Alonso (R) 1B
Brett Baty (L) 3B
Starling Marte (R) RF
Tyrone Taylor (R) LF
Jeff McNeil (L) 2B
Harrison Bader (R) CF
Omar Narváez (L) C
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Post by kcmets » Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:20 pm

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Jonathan India (R) 2B
Will Benson (L) CF
Christian Encarnacion-Strand (R) 1B
Jeimer Candelario (S) 3B
Jake Fraley (L) RF
Elly De La Cruz (S) SS
Spencer Steer (R) LF
Nick Martini (L) DH
Tyler Stephenson (R) C
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Post by kcmets » Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:21 pm

Luis Severino RHP
0-1, 5.40 ERA, 6 SO

Nick Martinez RHP
0-0, 5.40 ERA, 3 SO
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Post by bmfc1 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:40 pm

Should the Mets carry a 3d catcher so Alvarez can DH? Nido adds next-to-nothing but he would allow the Mets to DH Alvarez and then they can PH or PR for Narváez without losing the DH.
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Post by MFS62 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:58 pm

bmfc1 wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:40 pm Should the Mets carry a 3d catcher so Alvarez can DH? Nido adds next-to-nothing but he would allow the Mets to DH Alvarez and then they can PH or PR for Narváez without losing the DH.
I'm in favor of anything that would give Alvarez more ABs and still have a balanced roster.
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Post by Edgy MD » Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:59 pm

With the lack of games that go beyond the tenth or eleventh inning, fear of losing your last catcher is still strong as a sense, but not so threatening as a reality, I think.

This is something Buck braved well, I think. If you lift your catcher or he gets hurt in the eighth or so, and your DH named Álvarez has to become the catcher, so be it. Either:
  1. you'll come out behind, lose, and the game will end before the former-DH-now-pitcher's slot comes around again;
  2. you'll come out tied, and as you hang in there, and the former-DH-now-pitcher's slot will come around with the game still a toss-up, and you'll be forced to pinch-hit for the pitcher, but so what(?), because you probably won't be planning on using the same pitcher in the next inning anyhow, and since you haven't had to pinch-hit for the pitcher since the sixth inning, your bench shouldn't be burned; or
  3. you'll come out ahead, and by the time the former-DH-now-pitcher's slot comes around again, you'll have the game well in hand whether you pinch hit for the pitcher or not.
Our Met-following baseball lives have tended to leave us with a National League mindset, which makes us very looking-ahead thoughtful about using bench players, as well as an extra-innings-awareness mindset, that leads us to fear disaster if we burn our bench and a marathon ensues.

But we're playing by American League rules now, as well as Clown Car rules. These are rules that sadly favor not the careful, thoughtful, strategic managers we imagined we'd be, given half a chance, but rather the risk-ignoring, thumb-headed managers we always were certain we could outsmart.

So go ahead! Burn your catcher dudes! Rob Manfred has your back!

Anyhow, once JD Martinez gets to town, it'll be less likely we'll see many games with Omar Narváez catching and Francisco Álvarez DH-ing.
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Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Post by metirish » Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:25 pm

I like Saturday 4pm games. LETS GO METS
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Post by Fman99 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:27 pm

metirish wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:25 pm I like Saturday 4pm games. LETS GO METS
Same here, nap in the books, wife & daughter off shopping, quite house for Mets watching.
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Post by Edgy MD » Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:38 pm

Taylor reads balls like a centerfielder, makes a read and breaks for where the ball looks like it's going.

But balls to the outside of the corner outfielders are always breaking, and you have to track them the whole way.
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Post by Edgy MD » Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:39 pm

Weak defense undoing us.
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Post by Radar » Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:41 pm

We look absolutely terrible.
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Post by Edgy MD » Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:44 pm

Severino is certainly getting it done a lot better than his first time out.

It's not just that that run should be charged to him.
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Post by Radar » Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:47 pm

Edgy MD wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:44 pm Severino is certainly getting it done a lot better than his first time out.

It's not just that that run should be charged to him.
A lot of question marks with him. But our defense put this together.
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Post by Fman99 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:48 pm

Just hand them runs, sure, good strategy. I miss ultra sharp spring training Severino. This fork-in-the-back-of-the-jersey-summer-Bronx Severino he can piss off.
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Post by Radar » Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:50 pm

Sad thing is with our offense two runs could be enough for them.
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Post by Johnny Lunchbucket » Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:52 pm

Bader bedder start doing something useful.
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Post by Edgy MD » Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:52 pm

Two runs can always be enough, but we play on.

There's Narváez getting with the program.
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Post by Edgy MD » Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:54 pm

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Post by Frayed Knot » Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:55 pm

Radar wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:47 pm
Edgy MD wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:44 pm Severino is certainly getting it done a lot better than his first time out.

It's not just that that run should be charged to him.
A lot of question marks with him. But our defense put this together.
So far kind of similar to his first outing IMO: plays not being made behind him (one error, one not);
one play almost made (Pete); not a ton of stuff hit hard but nothing really at anyone ... all of which
put him on edge and needing to be near perfect (see his frustrated reaction to a borderline
non-strike-three call) in order to not get scored upon.
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Post by Fman99 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:04 pm

Lindor and Alonso coming up with ducks on the pond and back to back flying out on the first pitch. C'mon, guys. Make them work a bit
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Post by Edgy MD » Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:07 pm

There are more ducks here for the next pond, though.

Taylor is chasey, though. He should bunt.
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Post by Johnny Lunchbucket » Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:08 pm

Take that weak ass HBP, Jeff
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Post by Johnny Lunchbucket » Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:10 pm

I hat Bader.
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Post by Edgy MD » Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:10 pm

Bader swings at malarkey, too.
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