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IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:06 am
by G-Fafif
Luis Severino wears No. 40 on the mound today in Cincinnati. Four o’clock on SNY.

Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:16 pm
by kcmets
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Brandon Nimmo (L) DH
Francisco Lindor (S) SS
Pete Alonso (R) 1B
Brett Baty (L) 3B
Starling Marte (R) RF
Tyrone Taylor (R) LF
Jeff McNeil (L) 2B
Harrison Bader (R) CF
Omar Narváez (L) C

Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:20 pm
by kcmets
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Jonathan India (R) 2B
Will Benson (L) CF
Christian Encarnacion-Strand (R) 1B
Jeimer Candelario (S) 3B
Jake Fraley (L) RF
Elly De La Cruz (S) SS
Spencer Steer (R) LF
Nick Martini (L) DH
Tyler Stephenson (R) C

Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:21 pm
by kcmets
Luis Severino RHP
0-1, 5.40 ERA, 6 SO

Nick Martinez RHP
0-0, 5.40 ERA, 3 SO

Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:40 pm
by bmfc1
Should the Mets carry a 3d catcher so Alvarez can DH? Nido adds next-to-nothing but he would allow the Mets to DH Alvarez and then they can PH or PR for Narváez without losing the DH.

Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:58 pm
by MFS62
bmfc1 wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:40 pm Should the Mets carry a 3d catcher so Alvarez can DH? Nido adds next-to-nothing but he would allow the Mets to DH Alvarez and then they can PH or PR for Narváez without losing the DH.
I'm in favor of anything that would give Alvarez more ABs and still have a balanced roster.
Later

Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:59 pm
by Edgy MD
With the lack of games that go beyond the tenth or eleventh inning, fear of losing your last catcher is still strong as a sense, but not so threatening as a reality, I think.

This is something Buck braved well, I think. If you lift your catcher or he gets hurt in the eighth or so, and your DH named Álvarez has to become the catcher, so be it. Either:
  1. you'll come out behind, lose, and the game will end before the former-DH-now-pitcher's slot comes around again;
  2. you'll come out tied, and as you hang in there, and the former-DH-now-pitcher's slot will come around with the game still a toss-up, and you'll be forced to pinch-hit for the pitcher, but so what(?), because you probably won't be planning on using the same pitcher in the next inning anyhow, and since you haven't had to pinch-hit for the pitcher since the sixth inning, your bench shouldn't be burned; or
  3. you'll come out ahead, and by the time the former-DH-now-pitcher's slot comes around again, you'll have the game well in hand whether you pinch hit for the pitcher or not.
Our Met-following baseball lives have tended to leave us with a National League mindset, which makes us very looking-ahead thoughtful about using bench players, as well as an extra-innings-awareness mindset, that leads us to fear disaster if we burn our bench and a marathon ensues.

But we're playing by American League rules now, as well as Clown Car rules. These are rules that sadly favor not the careful, thoughtful, strategic managers we imagined we'd be, given half a chance, but rather the risk-ignoring, thumb-headed managers we always were certain we could outsmart.

So go ahead! Burn your catcher dudes! Rob Manfred has your back!

Anyhow, once JD Martinez gets to town, it'll be less likely we'll see many games with Omar Narváez catching and Francisco Álvarez DH-ing.

Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:25 pm
by metirish
I like Saturday 4pm games. LETS GO METS

Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:27 pm
by Fman99
metirish wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:25 pm I like Saturday 4pm games. LETS GO METS
Same here, nap in the books, wife & daughter off shopping, quite house for Mets watching.

Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:38 pm
by Edgy MD
Taylor reads balls like a centerfielder, makes a read and breaks for where the ball looks like it's going.

But balls to the outside of the corner outfielders are always breaking, and you have to track them the whole way.

Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:39 pm
by Edgy MD
Weak defense undoing us.

Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:41 pm
by Radar
We look absolutely terrible.

Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:44 pm
by Edgy MD
Severino is certainly getting it done a lot better than his first time out.

It's not just that that run should be charged to him.

Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:47 pm
by Radar
Edgy MD wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:44 pm Severino is certainly getting it done a lot better than his first time out.

It's not just that that run should be charged to him.
A lot of question marks with him. But our defense put this together.

Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:48 pm
by Fman99
Just hand them runs, sure, good strategy. I miss ultra sharp spring training Severino. This fork-in-the-back-of-the-jersey-summer-Bronx Severino he can piss off.

Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:50 pm
by Radar
Sad thing is with our offense two runs could be enough for them.

Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:52 pm
by Johnny Lunchbucket
Bader bedder start doing something useful.

Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:52 pm
by Edgy MD
Two runs can always be enough, but we play on.

There's Narváez getting with the program.

Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:54 pm
by Edgy MD
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Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:55 pm
by Frayed Knot
Radar wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:47 pm
Edgy MD wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:44 pm Severino is certainly getting it done a lot better than his first time out.

It's not just that that run should be charged to him.
A lot of question marks with him. But our defense put this together.
So far kind of similar to his first outing IMO: plays not being made behind him (one error, one not);
one play almost made (Pete); not a ton of stuff hit hard but nothing really at anyone ... all of which
put him on edge and needing to be near perfect (see his frustrated reaction to a borderline
non-strike-three call) in order to not get scored upon.

Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:04 pm
by Fman99
Lindor and Alonso coming up with ducks on the pond and back to back flying out on the first pitch. C'mon, guys. Make them work a bit

Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:07 pm
by Edgy MD
There are more ducks here for the next pond, though.

Taylor is chasey, though. He should bunt.

Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:08 pm
by Johnny Lunchbucket
Take that weak ass HBP, Jeff

Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:10 pm
by Johnny Lunchbucket
I hat Bader.

Re: IGT 4/6/2024: NYM@CIN — Pat Zachry Invitational

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:10 pm
by Edgy MD
Bader swings at malarkey, too.