Can't Truss It

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How long will Liz Truss' term as PM last?

Less than one year
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No votes
1-2 years
3
43%
2-3 years
2
29%
3-4 years
0
No votes
4-5 years
0
No votes
5-6 years
0
No votes
6-7 years
1
14%
7-8 years
0
No votes
8-9 years
0
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9-10 years
0
No votes
10+ years
1
14%
 
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Can't Truss It

Post by Willets Point » Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:29 pm

In the future, everyone will be Prime Minister of the United Kingdom for 15 minutes, but right now it's Liz Truss' turn. As the fourth PM in 6 years, the position doesn't seem to have much job security. With a number of unresolved crises inherited from her predecessor, and an economic downturn inevitable for the UK, Truss isn't likely to have much of a honeymoon with her constituency. It's your mission, should you choose to accept, to predict how long Truss will serve in office.
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Re: Can't Truss It

Post by MFS62 » Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:06 pm

1-2 years.
They'll give her a chance to fix the current economic problems.
And when she fails, she'll be out.

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Re: Can't Truss It

Post by Frayed Knot » Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:11 pm

So you're wondering how long Truss will hold up?


An additional variation on the question: Will Truss's successor, whenever it may occur, be received by the current monarch or by her successor?
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Re: Can't Truss It

Post by duan » Wed Sep 07, 2022 4:17 am

She's absolutely awful. Changes tack with the wind and firmly aligned at this point with the Brexity end of the party and will be pulling all sorts of nonsense with the Northern Ireland protocol.
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Re: Can't Truss It

Post by Frayed Knot » Wed Sep 07, 2022 8:45 am

Without any hard data to back it up, it seems to me that these intra-party changes that occur within a term don't tend to go very well or very long, that once
a party loses faith in the person originally elected it has a tendancy to shake the voters' faith as well which in turn swings things towards the 'let's give the
other side a shot at this for a while'.
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Re: Can't Truss It

Post by Lefty Specialist » Wed Sep 07, 2022 1:49 pm

Tories had a problem in that they had two candidates that nobody particularly liked. Yet Labor isn't particularly well liked either.

I say 2-3 years but closer to 2 than 3.
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Re: Can't Truss It

Post by Willets Point » Wed Sep 07, 2022 8:12 pm

I know it's a different system but I can't imagine the US having 4 straight Presidents from the same party amid such acrimony. The last time a party had 4 straight Presidents was when the Republicans had Grant, Hayes, Garfield, and Arthur (and they only got to 4 because Garfield was assassinated). Anyhow, I can't imagine the next PM will be a Tory too.
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Re: Can't Truss It

Post by Frayed Knot » Wed Sep 07, 2022 8:35 pm

Of course the difference is that they can have four straight leaders from one party without necessarily having to go through four elections.
But as I said above, once you start getting heads of the party who weren't the first choice of the party (and also not approved by the voters)
the odds of holding onto power starts to go down. The die-hards won't switch sides but the centrists will shift.
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Re: Can't Truss It

Post by Edgy MD » Thu Sep 08, 2022 9:27 am

Not that the US is such a great model, because it's not, but I can't pretend to understand the British version of self-governance. How a party with 172,000 members has such a grip on power in a union of 70 million citizens is ... befuddlin' to me.
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Re: Can't Truss It

Post by Willets Point » Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:48 am

Appointing Liz Truss may end up being Liz II’s last official act.
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Re: Can't Truss It

Post by kcmets » Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:58 am

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Re: Can't Truss It

Post by whippoorwill » Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:28 am

Wow
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Re: Can't Truss It

Post by Edgy MD » Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:29 am

When I start a new job, it takes me this long to get my passwords set up to log into the system.
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Re: Can't Truss It

Post by Frayed Knot » Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:41 pm

In her final statement released from 10 Downing Street she said, 'At least I managed to beat out that William Henry Harrison wimp'.
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Re: Can't Truss It

Post by Lefty Specialist » Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:26 pm

One of the papers actually set up a webcam on a head of lettuce to see if it would outlast Liz Truss. The head of lettuce won.

Yes, seriously.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -liz-truss
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Re: Can't Truss It

Post by Frayed Knot » Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:17 pm

In addition to W. H. Harrison, Truss also outlasted the reign of Pope John Paul I
But even Yuri Andropov and Konstantin Chernenko lasted longer than her and I believe both of them were legally dead prior to taking office and merely ruled the USSR via a Weekend at Bernie's type of situation.
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