Donald Trump is a political outrage (split from Hot Water)

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Post by Benjamin Grimm » Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:04 pm

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:47 pm This is no April Fool's Joke. The madman's pick for Attorney General is ......


this guy



Matt Gaetz.

Good grief.
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Post by MFS62 » Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:06 pm

Hide the women and children, especially if they're both.
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Post by Edgy MD » Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:09 pm

Centerfield wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:29 pm
Benjamin Grimm wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:11 pm Trump can (and will) still to plenty of damage through executive orders, and I have no doubt that he'll push that to the very limits and beyond, but I think (hope?) that his worst excesses will be able to be held in check.
I think we will see the border tighten, no more migrants getting in, and some degree of deportations, but nothing like what was promised.

It's the tariffs that have me puzzled. Why does he want them? Who will they benefit? And will Congress allow him to deploy a plan that is so unilaterally panned?
The tariffs will benefit him.
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Post by Benjamin Grimm » Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:10 pm

Last time he promised to only appoint the best people. This time, he's going directly to appointing the worst people.

Fifty more months of this shit.
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:10 pm

metirish wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:51 pm We can hope that the dems regroup under new leadership and in two years hopefully take back both houses , what damage will be done by then who knows
My guess is that the Dems will win back the House in two years if it doesn't reclaim the House this election. The party out of power usually does very well in mid-term elections and I'm guessing that the madman will very likely overplay his hand.

I'm not so confident about the Senate. It's a huge problem for the Dems in general. There just aren't as many blue states as there are red states. I don't know how they're gonna make up Senate losses in very red Ohio, Montana and West Virginia. And one of the Georgia seats is up for re-election in 2026. When they had a filibuster-proof majority to pass ObamaCare, it should have also granted statehood to DC. It boggles my mind that that is not an A #1 priority for the party. Just incomprehensible.
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Post by kcmets » Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:13 pm

Eddie Munster's great grand son.

Good lord, what a last ten days....
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Post by metirish » Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:40 pm

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:04 pm
batmagadanleadoff wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:47 pm This is no April Fool's Joke. The madman's pick for Attorney General is ......


this guy



Matt Gaetz.

Good grief.

Watching ABC World News and Senate Republicans seems very lukewarm to this ,one flatly told the reporter there is no way he's getting the votes needed
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Post by Benjamin Grimm » Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:11 pm

Apparently he's already resigned from his House seat. It would be really sweet if he didn't get confirmed for the new gig.
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metirish wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:40 pm Watching ABC World News and Senate Republicans seems very lukewarm to this ,one flatly told the reporter there is no way he's getting the votes needed
Did that Senate Republican include a name with that quote?
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Wed Nov 13, 2024 9:46 pm

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:11 pm Apparently he's already resigned from his House seat. It would be really sweet if he didn't get confirmed for the new gig.
Here's why Gaetz was so quick to resign his seat.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/13/politics ... index.html

Excerpt:
The House Ethics Committee was due to meet this week to vote on releasing a report about Matt Gaetz, who resigned from Congress on Wednesday after President-elect Donald Trump announced his intention to nominate the Florida congressman to serve as attorney general, according to two sources familiar with the discussions.

The long-awaited report was expected to be released as soon as Friday, those sources said. But with Gaetz’s resignation, it’s uncertain if the information will ever be made public.

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But Chairman Michael Guest said the ethics probe into Gaetz would end if he resigned his seat to prepare for the attorney general confirmation process, as the panel only has jurisdiction over a member when they are serving in Congress.
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Post by Edgy MD » Wed Nov 13, 2024 10:05 pm

Gotta be a 79% chance of that leaking, right?
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Post by metirish » Thu Nov 14, 2024 5:41 am

Edgy MD wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 9:36 pm
metirish wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:40 pm Watching ABC World News and Senate Republicans seems very lukewarm to this ,one flatly told the reporter there is no way he's getting the votes needed
Did that Senate Republican include a name with that quote?

Apologies, not a senator, but Rep Max Miller from Ohio , at the 4 minute mark

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Post by MFS62 » Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:38 am

Is he nominating My Pillow guy for Surgeon General?
I wouldn't put it past him.
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Post by Centerfield » Thu Nov 14, 2024 11:53 am

Edgy MD wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:09 pm
Centerfield wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:29 pm
Benjamin Grimm wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:11 pm Trump can (and will) still to plenty of damage through executive orders, and I have no doubt that he'll push that to the very limits and beyond, but I think (hope?) that his worst excesses will be able to be held in check.
I think we will see the border tighten, no more migrants getting in, and some degree of deportations, but nothing like what was promised.

It's the tariffs that have me puzzled. Why does he want them? Who will they benefit? And will Congress allow him to deploy a plan that is so unilaterally panned?
The tariffs will benefit him.

How so?
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Post by Edgy MD » Thu Nov 14, 2024 1:18 pm

He gets to trumpet himself as the guy who made foreigners pay for the federal government, positioning himself as a taxcutter, a xenophobe, and a wielder of American might.

Whether the numbers add up is something that can be bullshitted past. As is the fact that it runs contrary to what had been a defining plank in the Republican platform. The important thing is being adored as a populist hero.
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Edgy MD wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 1:18 pm He gets to trumpet himself as the guy who made foreigners pay for the federal government....
How would that happen? How does that work? Foreigners don't pay American tariffs. Americans do. Or is your point that if the public is so fucking gullible as to believe that Haitian migrants are eating cats and dogs, they'll believe any bullshit the madman advances?
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Post by Edgy MD » Thu Nov 14, 2024 2:07 pm

Yeah, of course.

He doesn't care a nit for who pays for tariffs in the end, any more than he cares who paid for his tax cut, any more than he cares about who pays for his fence.

His job is to sell his bullshit. Let the eggheads figure out the rest and the press team spin it as a unique product of his own genius.

The answer to "How is that gonna work?" is always "It's not."

"It's not, but we'll pretend it does, some people will die, and we'll tell the rest that everything is fine, and anything that's not fine is the ongoing outcome of those nutjobs who preceded me."
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Post by rchurch314 » Thu Nov 14, 2024 3:57 pm

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power. And money, but they're pretty similar in capitialism.

If you're discussing anything fascists are doing on merit, you're a pawn. In fascist states most of the power is given willingly.

So Tariffs. What else did they just talk about? Removing the Electric Vehicle credit.

Biggest electric vehicle manufacturer is BYD. Not sold/made here. Would be subject to heavy tariffs. Probably benefits the second biggest...

..oh look it's Tesla.

And then the rest of the local competition already has large gas-based products, so if their EVs are suddenly $7500 more expensive to consumers, they'll just make less of them, leaving Tesla to benefit.

But who benefits on the gas? Well, we know trump, etc are pretty heavily tied in to Saudi Arabia and Russia, where a lot of gas comes from.

Keep following the money. The fascist party is also been pretty amped up against offshore wind, and other renewable energy sources.

Oil and gas. It's so simple and rote that it seems like an overplayed 24 plot line.
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Post by Edgy MD » Thu Nov 14, 2024 6:50 pm

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., your secretary-designate of Health and Human Services.
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Post by metirish » Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:23 am

Hopefully this is dead on arrival
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Post by Edgy MD » Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:31 am

Well, there is some reporting that says that there are possible plans for Vice President-elect Vance and Senator Thune to convene the new Senate and immediately adjourn it so the president can push through some or all of his cabinet as recess appointments.

Uncharted waters.
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Post by MFS62 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:52 am

What a sorry bunch of crypt keepers to watch over the death of democracy.

I hope they listen to him and don't take the mumps vaccine. Mumps can cause sterility, so at least there would be hope for the future.

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Post by metsmarathon » Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:08 am

this just in: political party that loudly proclaims how broken government is is doing its damnedest to make sure that happens. ever moreso than before.
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Post by Chad ochoseis » Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:34 am

metsmarathon wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:08 am this just in: political party that loudly proclaims how broken government is is doing its damnedest to make sure that happens. ever moreso than before.
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Post by MFS62 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:20 pm

Edgy MD wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:31 am Well, there is some reporting that says that there are possible plans for Vice President-elect Vance and Senator Thune to convene the new Senate and immediately adjourn it so the president can push through some or all of his cabinet as recess appointments.

Uncharted waters.
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