OK! It's About Time. The Court Thread!

[batmagadanleadoff]

If you don't care about the answer, then I won't bother answering.

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[batmagadanleadoff]

More Clarence Thomas dirt disclosed today.

It Continues to Be Simply Fantastic to Be Clarence Thomas
In this week's episode, we learn about the 38 vacations the Justice took courtesy various billionaires.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/p ... lionaires/


If it was the other way around, if the GOP had the White House and the Senate and Thomas was a liberal justice, the GOP would weaponize the DOJ to indict Thomas on tax crimes. The ensuing conviction should be easy to get since the case would be a slam-dunk paper case. They'd get a judge to sentence Thomas to jail time so he'd be forced to vacate his SCOTUS seat, which the GOP would then flip. They'd kill their own children for SCOTUS seats and you know what? So should the Dems. But the Dems are totally pussified and scared of their own shadows.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Jennifer Rubin, writing about the recent SCOTUS mifepristone decision for WAPO, calls the current SCOTUS "the most radical and aggressive Supreme Court since Dred Scott". Rightfully so, if you ask me.

I don't know how long it's gonna take the Dems to figure this out but the only solution to many of the country's problems is to take out this version of SCOTUS. Too bad Biden's not on board. I give him a little sympathy only because he never had the votes anyway. The GOP runs the House now and even when the Dems had the House before the mid-terms, they had the teeniest of majorities in the Senate and with Manchin and Synema as two of its senators. So much for that. But Biden and the Dems should be doing more. They should be doing a better job of educating voters as to how extreme and dangerous this SCOTUS is.

[TransMonk]

There was a chance to reform the court (among other things) in 2021-22. I think Dems were surprised they got a Senate majority and were not entirely certain that Biden was going to win in 2020. Maybe Manchin and Sinema would have never been on board, but I would have rather they would have had a better plan on how to wield that power as a group. I know recovering from COVID was a big lift for all of government back in 2021 (somehow, it seems like everyone has memory-holed that), but I hope Dems have a wish list prepared on what they might do with a Dem trifecta of House/Senate/Prez.

Hard to do when the Presidential polling margin is so tight and the Senate map looks impossible for Dems, but these are the same conditions as 2020. Dems were caught flat-footed and are likely to be again should the impossible become reality. The Minnesota state house is a good model as Dems there didn't wait for the power to make the plan. Then, once they achieved an "impossible" trifecta, they could act quickly on that plan.

[MFS62]

If it was the other way around, if the GOP had the White House and the Senate and Thomas was a liberal justice, the GOP would weaponize the DOJ to indict Thomas on tax crimes. The ensuing conviction should be easy to get since the case would be a slam-dunk paper case. They'd get a judge to sentence Thomas to jail time so he'd be forced to vacate his SCOTUS seat, which the GOP would then flip. They'd kill their own children for SCOTUS seats and you know what? So should the Dems. But the Dems are totally pussified and scared of their own shadows.

Now that the Democrats have the majority in the Senate, it would be the right time to arrest him on tax evasion. The case has never been stronger, as his other gifts have come to light.

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[batmagadanleadoff]

If it was the other way around, if the GOP had the White House and the Senate and Thomas was a liberal justice, the GOP would weaponize the DOJ to indict Thomas on tax crimes. The ensuing conviction should be easy to get since the case would be a slam-dunk paper case. They'd get a judge to sentence Thomas to jail time so he'd be forced to vacate his SCOTUS seat, which the GOP would then flip. They'd kill their own children for SCOTUS seats and you know what? So should the Dems. But the Dems are totally pussified and scared of their own shadows.

Now that the Democrats have the majority in the Senate, it would be the right time to arrest him on tax evasion. The case has never been stronger, as his other gifts have come to light.

Too late now. Thomas would easily stretch out the case beyond the election, where the Dems might not hold either the WH or the Senate, and if not, wouldn't be able to flip his vacated seat.

P.S. Do you watch John Oliver's show? A few weeks ago, he offered Clarence Thomas (I think it was) millions to retire. But he was given only three months to accept the offer. That was likely because three months from now, there might not be enough time for the Dems to flip his seat. If it was the other way around, the GOP would ram somebody through in four and a half minutes if that's all the time they had.



I'm gonna ask Edgy for extra credit for not throwing an unprovoked tantrum and pottymouth curse fest even though you brought up year-old (practically) posts.

[MFS62]

Actually, I saw the thread when it was bumped by TransMonk. And your comment from a year ago i still (sadly) valid.
But He wouldn't be able to stretch out the case because he would be the defendant. And I'm sure the AG (or special prosecutor) would go after him in a favorable district, where delay tactics wouldn't be as accommodated as with that Florida judge.

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[batmagadanleadoff]

Actually, I saw the thread when it was bumped by TransMonk. And your comment from a year ago i still (sadly) valid.
But He wouldn't be able to stretch out the case because he would be the defendant. And I'm sure the AG (or special prosecutor) would go after him in a favorable district, where delay tactics wouldn't be as accommodated as with that Florida judge.

Actually, I was the one that revived this thread today. And I was joking about the year old stuff. That's a joke from another thread.

Thomas would surely find a way to delay his case. It'll be a Federal case and Thomas will come up with a reason to get to SCOTUS, where they will surely put their thumbs (and feet and kidneys and livers) on the scale.

[Lefty Specialist]

Don't be too sure Biden wouldn't be on board. He's not going to stick his neck out now, when it's pretty much an impossibility. And there are Democrats (looking at you, Dick Durbin) who wouldn't go along with it either. You'd need probably 53 Democrats to pull this off, which.......isn't going to happen. Pretty much the best they can hope for is a 50-50 Senate with Kamala Harris on speed dial. You won't get needed court reforms that way.

On the flip side, should Trump win and the Senate flips R, it's Katy Bar the Door. The conservative majority will feel empowered, and a lot of things will be going away, like voting rights, abortion (medical or otherwise), IVF, contraception, protections for minorities, labor rights and womens' rights, to name but a few. And Clarence Thomas will be Instagramming his pictures from Bora Bora in a Speedo.

[batmagadanleadoff]

On the flip side, should Trump win and the Senate flips R, it's Katy Bar the Door. The conservative majority will feel empowered, and a lot of things will be going away, like voting rights....

Voting Rights are already shot. Have you been following the recent South Carolina SCOTUS decision? It got a lot of media attention for about two days and then it's been forgotten in the press. There's nothing left of the VRA. SCOTUS already decided that partisan gerrymandering is OK (sigh). With the South Carolina case, it essentially ruled that a plaintiff cannot win a racial gerrymandering case unless the defendants admit in court that they gerrymandered a district using racial criteria. SCOTUS has now washed its hands of gerrymandering cases.

So what is a plaintiff to do now? Complaining to their state Legislators would be futile since they're the ones that drew the racially gerrymandered lines in the first place. And they can't vote their legislators out of office because the whole point of gerrymandering is to undermine or even totally eliminate the voting power of a targeted group. Those legislators now have an impenetrable majority and are entrenched in office in perpetuity. They can't be voted out.

And it'll get worse. Thomas has his eyes set on Baker v Carr, the one man, one vote case that requires districts in the same state to have a reasonably close number of residents. Overruling that case will allow states to cram their targeted voters into one gigantic district of, say, millions of people, and then create much, much smaller districts of their preferred voters.

The only solution is to dismantle the present version of SCOTUS. There's nothing else to do. Even if a Dem trifecta passes favorable Voting Rights legislation, there's always the threat, if not likelihood, that this SCOTUS will declare the new legislation to be unconstitutional.

[batmagadanleadoff]

If youse don't take out this version of SCOTUS ASAP, the religious nutjobs that are now running things will eventually have all American women wearing burkas and chastity belts.

Louisiana Requires All Public Classrooms to Display Ten Commandments

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/19/us/l ... rooms.html

[metsmarathon]

Yeah… so much for the constitution, right?

[Edgy MD]

The ACLU thanks you for the work.

For what it's worth, I don't think it's religiosity at all that leads most lawmakers to back such legislation.

[metsmarathon]

wearing a maga hat is not something jesus would do.

[Edgy MD]

That's certainly true.

I tend to think that such legislation finds momentum not so much from true believers thinking this is the way to make this country a better, happier, safer country, form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity. I think most who support it think it's a great way to troll the libs, and when it gets opposed in legislatures and courthouses, campaign on the notion that those who oppose me hate God.

Of course, the contempt these trolls themselves have for the notion of a God — Christian or other — is palpable, but it's a great way to manipulate the populace — to support those people who opposed me is to put yourself on the wrong side God's judgment.

Most of us live in fear of something, and that's a great (though cynical as Hell) way to jerk us around. There are only so many voters with real heart. Only so many Huck Finns.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Yeah… so much for the constitution, right?

Louisiana passed this law because it believes that SCOTUS will uphold it.

[batmagadanleadoff]

I think most who support it think it's a great way to troll the libs, and when it gets opposed in legislatures and courthouses, campaign on the notion that those who oppose me hate God.

(emphasis added)

There goes your religiosity. It's there and the religious nutjobs are running the country behind the scenes. Of course it's fake and there's no stupid fucking God but that's the crux of the scam: that there is a God in the first place.

[TransMonk]

I think most who support it think it's a great way to troll the libs...

They signed this into law on Juneteenth, a federal holiday that teachers are likely not teaching the history of in Louisiana schools.

10 Commandments > Juneteenth in LA. They are trolls indeed.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

avi

[Edgy MD]

I think most who support it think it's a great way to troll the libs, and when it gets opposed in legislatures and courthouses, campaign on the notion that those who oppose me hate God.

(emphasis added)

There goes your religiosity. It's there and the religious nutjobs are running the country behind the scenes. Of course it's fake and there's no stupid fucking God but that's the crux of the scam: that there is a God in the first place.

I'm not sure why you want to make this about me, while actually agreeing with me.

[Edgy MD]

I think most who support it think it's a great way to troll the libs...

They signed this into law on Juneteenth, a federal holiday that teachers are likely not teaching the history of in Louisiana schools.

10 Commandments > Juneteenth in LA. They are trolls indeed.

Well, it's a federal holiday. Whether or not teachers are teaching it, the lack of school should fill everybody in, and with a 90% awareness rate, it's doing pretty well. It was a state holiday in Louisiana before that.

And yeah, it's in the Louisiana curriculum.

[batmagadanleadoff]

I think most who support it think it's a great way to troll the libs, and when it gets opposed in legislatures and courthouses, campaign on the notion that those who oppose me hate God.

(emphasis added)

There goes your religiosity. It's there and the religious nutjobs are running the country behind the scenes. Of course it's fake and there's no stupid fucking God but that's the crux of the scam: that there is a God in the first place.

I'm not sure why you want to make this about me, while actually agreeing with me.

I wasn't. Apologies for the confusion. I was simply responding to the language in your post, not to you personally. My response had nothing to do with anything personal.

[Lefty Specialist]

Yeah… so much for the constitution, right?

Louisiana passed this law because it believes that SCOTUS will uphold it.

Bingo. This is one more way they can take a hammer to the separation of church and state.

The disingenuousness of their argument is so transparent. "It's not religion, it's the Original Law that our laws are based on." Well, if you really want Original Law, you should post the Codes of Hammurabi in a readable font in every classroom. Put up the Magna Carta while you're at it. Somehow I don't think that'll happen anytime soon.

Maybe they can post the Bill of Rights with the annoying parts of the second amendment scratched out.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Yeah… so much for the constitution, right?

Louisiana passed this law because it believes that SCOTUS will uphold it.

Bingo. This is one more way they can take a hammer to the separation of church and state.

The disingenuousness of their argument is so transparent. "It's not religion, it's the Original Law that our laws are based on." Well, if you really want Original Law, you should post the Codes of Hammurabi in a readable font in every classroom. Put up the Magna Carta while you're at it. Somehow I don't think that'll happen anytime soon.

Maybe they can post the Bill of Rights with the annoying parts of the second amendment scratched out.

The mere fact that a state sincerely believes that there's a real chance that SCOTUS will uphold the law is enough to demonstrate just how far gone this scumbag SCOTUS court is.

[MFS62]

The Court just upheld the right to take a gun away from abusive spouses.
The vote was 8-1.
The holdout was Clarence Thomas.
There are no words ....
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