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So, there you go.

The former president may have cost his party the senate two elections in a row.

Lauren Boebert is down about 5000 votes with 93 percent in

Warnock would be helped by a Trump announcement before the runoff

Good job in PA, Coobs

“Biggest loser tonight”: Trumpworld is “catatonic” over his MAGA midterm failure

I really hope that this is all true.

It's pretty clear that the denialist wing of the party got hurt a lot. Even the MAGA winners underperformed.

The downside is that leaves the not-MAGA-but-MAGA-tolerant-if-that's-what-it-takes wing the opportunity to stake out room that should have been filled by a new party of former Republicans.

The upside is that we're probably not going to see massive, time-wasting showboat Congressional maneuvers like impeaching President Biden for things we haven't thought of yet, or a committee to investigate the committee to investigate January 6.

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:01 pm Good job in PA, Coobs

Thanks 😀

Once Donnie announces that he will be running for President (expected next week), I'm hoping that the current internecine bickering within the GOP will turn into out-and-out warfare that will damage their changes of winning again.

Later

I hope that a primary battle between Trump and DeSantis results in a normal human being getting the GOP nomination instead.

I don't know how to measure the likelihood of that happening, but it's what I'm hoping for.

It looks like newly re-elected Governor Tony Evers will be able to keep his veto in the Wisconsin state house.

Wisconsin will lose a Democratic US House seat (WI-03) to a January 6 insurrection attendant. If Boebert loses her seat in CO, Derrick Van Orden will be happy to take her place at the congressional kid's table with Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gaetz.

Mandela Barnes lost his Senate bid by a point. Some will say it was because he was too progressive. I would point to the millions of dollars in dark money that ran ad after ad in WI intimating that Barnes (a Black man, wink, wink) would be soft on crime.

I got to attend the Evers victory party last night. I went in expecting the worst nationally but was relieved by the Dems performance overall. The mood was as optimistic as I've seen a group of people in some time. Today, I'm a little hungover, but otherwise extremely happy. It sucks that merely holding the shitty line from things getting so much worse is my happiness trigger, but I guess that's where we're at right now.

I was thinking pretty much the same thing awhile ago.
Things have gotten that bad

Benjamin Grimm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:49 pm I hope that a primary battle between Trump and DeSantis results in a normal human being getting the GOP nomination instead.

I don't know how to measure the likelihood of that happening, but it's what I'm hoping for.

There are no normal human beings that are republicans, at least not at the level that could run for president. If "conservatives" want a conservative president, they should just vote for Biden or whoever. The entire democrat leadership is "right of center", and moving right as every day more young people gain voting rights.

What I'm hoping for is lowering the voting age to 16, automatic voter registration for EVERYONE 16+ (yes, including immigrants and felons), Puerto Rico and DC as states, and an expanded court (And kicking out the literal treasonous members), but unfortunately republicans have already rigged the system and hell, people are celebrating these midterms because it turned out not to be _rigged enough_. We may have missed the one pothole, but we're still barreling towards the cliff.

I'm hoping there are enough people that realize that "Gen Z Progressives" are coming, and support them and nominate them.

You have a way of presenting your viewpoint in a way that belittles people who do not agree with you

Is that normal?

yes, I try to belittle fascists whenever I can. They're fascists. If i was nice to them they might hang around, and I want no part of fascists in polite society.

When republicans* stop trying to control women's bodies, and get serious about climate change and gun violence, for starters, then maybe I'll find some niceties for them. But while they're leading a revolt against Democracy and trying to force people to give birth? naaaah. hard nah. If they don't' want to be belittled, they should stop being so little.

*fascists

Benjamin Grimm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:49 pm I hope that a primary battle between Trump and DeSantis results in a normal human being getting the GOP nomination instead.

I don't know how to measure the likelihood of that happening, but it's what I'm hoping for.

It'll be like two Sumo wrestlers. One of them will win, hopefully damaged in the process. DeSantis is high on his big win in Florida, and Trump is, well, Trump. He's already foreshadowing that he's going after DeSantis on a personal level. Should be fun. But I think other Republicans will steer clear.

This 'not so bad' outcome will have another effect, though. Had Democrats gotten thumped, chances would have been less that Biden would run. He's pretty much a lock for 2024 now (which I disagree with, but I'm not running things).

My local 5th Congressional district has just been decided.
It was being looked at as a bell weather district by some networks to see if suburban democrats could hold fast.
Incumbent Democrat Jahana Hayes retained her seat by 1,200 votes.

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Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:01 pm Good job in PA, Coobs

Thanks to her, Pennsylvania's pole dancing curriculum lives on.

Well me and the rest of my friends in low places.

Actually I had forgotten about that lol.

99 percent in Boebert behind by a few dozen votes. Lake down by about 2000

Fun to what them squirm, better if they do go down

A shout-out to everyone PA who made this historic flip happen

After the 2022 smoke clears, the asshole states that are holding the election
results hostage with their cockamamie procedures and general fucktardidness
need to be fixed for next November. Hundreds of millions have voted and the
country is on hold because of foreseeable and predicted nonsense over some
low-five-digit-balloting bullshit.

#trumptydumpty #felloffwallneverbuilt #ymdyf

To Republicans, election delays and chaos are a feature, not a bug. It allows them to claim that elections are being stolen by nefarious means after the fact. It's why Republicans overwhelmingly vote at the polls on Election Day, because to them all other methods of voting are somehow illegal or corrupt.

I did love this, though.

https://www.theonion.com/smiling-fetter ... 1849763117

Is Ruppert Murdoch turning on Trump?



https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-ne ... 630470150b

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... is-ny-post

Mouthful of DeSantis cock for the Murdocks now

Yeah, Murdoch's Post has all the loyalty of a weather vane.

It will be interesting after the primary when Trump uses the stolen election rhetoric against the Murdoch-backed DeSantis.