Bending the Knee and Politics in 2025

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Re: Bending the Knee and Politics in 2025

Post by batmagadanleadoff » Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:15 pm

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 9:42 pm
batmagadanleadoff wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 1:20 pm
kcmets wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 1:11 pm
Seems the last two weeks have been an hourly just-
when-you-think-he-can't-top-yesterday he pulls another
rabid rabbit out of his shriveled ass.

He's working as fast as possible, in part because he figures he's likely to lose the House come the next midterm election.

He'll spend the last two years of his "official" term setting things up so that he can keep the Presidency indefinitely. So long as his health doesn't betray him, he's not leaving the White House voluntarily four years from now. People like him never do and he's given every single indication that he's not leaving. He already tried to steal one election by brute force. He's a violent dangerous madman capable of anything.

On second thought, we might not have free and fair elections come November, 2026. President Hitler, without a doubt, intends to dismantle the elections apparatus. If you think they haven't already thought of this and don't have a plan in place, you are very naive.
David Frum, writing for The Atlantic, is not naive.

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Trump tried to steal the 2020 election. He shows no sign that he would accept a loss in the future.
By David Frum

Eight years ago, President Donald Trump got generally good reviews for his first speech to a joint session of Congress. Back then, it would have seemed both incredible and churlish to suggest that the man who delivered that relatively conciliatory, relatively presidential speech might within four years try to overturn an election by violence.

But that’s what happened. And that attempt remains the single most important fact about Trump’s first term as president.

Eight years later, not even Trump’s staunchest partisans would describe his 2025 address as conciliatory. He mocked, he insulted, he called names, he appealed only to a MAGA base that does not add up to even half the electorate. But in 2025, the big question hanging over the nation’s head is not one about oratory, but about democracy. In 2017, Americans did not yet know how far Trump might go. Now they do. They only flinch from believing it.

Second-term Trump has opened his administration with a round of actions likely to prove drastically unpopular: tariffs that raise prices; budget cuts that will reduce services for veterans, at national parks, for anyone who depends on weather services. Prices are rising, measles is spreading, airplanes are falling out of the sky. His effective co-president and chief policy maker, Elon Musk, is widely distrusted and disliked. Trump’s repeated claims of massive fraud within Social Security strongly suggest that he’s got something big and radical in mind for the most popular program in American life.

Trump knows he’s steering into political trouble. He alluded to “disruptions” ahead because of his policies. His party holds the narrowest of margins in the House of Representatives. Yet he’s governing without the slightest concession to majority opinion, even to a majority sense of decency. He talks of the Democrats as remorseless enemies. At the same time, he is making political choices that would normally seem certain to deliver those enemies a big majority in the House after the midterms. Is he delusional? Crazy reckless? Or is this a signal that the man who tried to overturn the election of 2020 has some scheme in mind for the 2026 midterms?

Maybe Trump has turned over a new leaf. There was, however, a tell in this speech that Trump’s attitude to other people’s consent remains as contemptuous as ever.

In his joint-session speech, Trump returned to his fancy of annexing Greenland to the United States. He read aloud from the teleprompter some perfunctory language about respecting Greenlanders’ right to decide their own future. But when he came to the end of the section, he apparently ad-libbed a thought of his own: “We’ll get it one way or another.” That’s not the language of a man who has learned his lesson about respecting democratic choice.

In the second term, unlike the first, Trump has swiftly and methodically installed do-anything loyalists at the FBI, the Department of Justice, and the Department of Defense. Given Trump’s 2021 record, that seems something to worry about now.

Had Trump lost the 2024 election, he would right now be facing sentencing for his criminal convictions in the state of New York. He would be facing criminal and civil trials in other states. He was rescued from legal troubles by political success. Now Trump’s acting in ways that seem certain to throw power away in the next round of elections—if those elections proceed as usual. If they are free and fair. If every legal voter is allowed to participate. If every legal vote is counted, whether cast in person or by mail. Those did not use to be hazardous “if”s. But they may be hazardous in 2026.

Trump is keenly alert to his legal danger, deeply committed to keeping power by any means necessary. He also seems to be sleepwalking toward a stinging political loss that will expose him to all kinds of personal risk. He’s not trying to expand his coalition, to win any votes he does not already have. So what is his plan to preserve his immunity and his impunity? Trump’s behavior in 2021 showed that there were no limits to what he would do to keep power. What will 2026 show?
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Re: Bending the Knee and Politics in 2025

Post by Benjamin Grimm » Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:41 pm

I'd like to think that that's just baseless paranoia.

I'd really like to think that.
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Post by MFS62 » Wed Mar 05, 2025 3:08 pm

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:41 pm I'd like to think that that's just baseless paranoia.

I'd really like to think that.
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Re: Bending the Knee and Politics in 2025

Post by rchurch314 » Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:55 pm

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:15 pm if those elections proceed as usual. If they are free and fair. If every legal voter is allowed to participate. If every legal vote is counted, whether cast in person or by mail. Those did not use to be hazardous “if”s. But they may be hazardous in 2026.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ss/681924/

wrong.


And I'm not even (just) talking about 2000, these folks have been suppressing, stealing, murdering to avoid 'every legal voter is allowed to participate' pretty much forever. These have always been hazardous "if"s. Jim Crow. The War on Drugs, etc etc. Voter suppression. Over and over again.
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Re: Bending the Knee and Politics in 2025

Post by batmagadanleadoff » Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:14 am

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 5:07 pm
batmagadanleadoff wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 3:16 pm
batmagadanleadoff wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:10 pm


Here's the latest for the jackass "Let's Not Vote for Kamala lala lala crowd from Michigan:

Trump says US will take 'take over' Gaza: 'We'll own it'

He said the U.S. would "level the site" and create "an economic development."


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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-p ... =118463249

Of course. Because to President Combover, youse are nothing but lowlife brown-skinned scum. He wants youse out of the Gaza so that he can fill it up with well-heeled Israelis and white people. Because he doesn't think that you low-life brown skins will be able to afford to pay for the tacky hotels and casinos he intends to build in Gaza once the riff-raff (youse) are cleared out. Economic Development? What President Combover means by that is that after his tacky, tasteless garish Gazan hotels are built, maybe he'll give youse jobs cleaning the toilets of the rich white hotel guests. Maybe to save money, the cheapskate will have you cleaning his toilets with your tongues. Wanna know what the clearing out of Gaza is to President Combover? It's a business deal. The President, whom youse helped to put in the White House, is using the power of the Presidency to make business deals for himself and his family of crooks.

So let me offer youse my thoughts and prayers. Youse deserve it. Youse couldn't vote for Kamala lala lala because, I dunno, because she once spilled some ketchup on her blouse while she was eating some french fries. So naturally, youse were left with no other alternative but to vote for the lunatic madman with the combover who did everything but telegraph it by tattooing it on your fucking foreheads that he was going to annihilate whatever was left of the Gazans.

So here are my thoughts and prayers. I'll even send them to your own special god, Allah lala la lala.

I pray to Allah lala la lala on behalf of the jackasses in Michigan who didn't wanna vote for Kamala lala lala.

Happy?
Hey, youse stupid fucking jackass Michiganers who didn't wanna vote for Kamala lala lala: Aren't youse glad that instead, youse voted for President Draft Dodger with the Combover and now he's gonna ethnically cleanse your brown asses out of Gaza and move youse to Antarctica with the Eskimos. Or some El Salvadoran medieval prison. It's all the same to the madman youse voted for. Ethnical cleansing is fancy talk for the rubes that really means slaughter and annihilate youse with tanks and tear gas and bombs and bullets. Youse are so dumb youse probably think it means that he's gonna give you showers. Yeah! Showers that shoot poison gas! So are youse missing Kamala lala lala yet? Make a reservation at the Trump Gaza Resort and Casino Hotel.
Hey! Youse motherfucking let's not vote for Kamala lala lala's. Get a load of this:

Trump Administration Moves to Send $8 Billion in Arms to Israel, Bypassing Some Lawmakers

Whaddyayouse think that your favorite scumbag President with the combover and the 34 felony convictions that youse voted for wants Israel to do with those arms? He wants Israel to wipe youse out of Gaza so that he can put up his tacky hotels and casinos there with his tacky combover name on the facades. And you motherfuckers actually thought that he gave a shit about anything, world peace, humanitarianism, anything beyond making more money for himself and his kunt fraud daughter. What a bunch of suckers youse are. He's gonna wipe youse out if he has his way and all I can do about it is to write these schadenfreude posts because youse dragged me down into this mess youse made with your stupid ideas. Oh my god, what have youse done with your let's not vote for Kamala lala lala?

Dear Dearborners who didn't wanna vote for Kamala lala lala: Get a load of this!

Trump’s “Genocidal” Threat to Gaza: If Hamas Won’t Release Hostages, “You Are DEAD”

“He’s threatening an entire population with death — what else is that other than genocidal?” one expert told The Intercept.


Excerpt:
As the White House said Wednesday it is holding secret talks with Hamas, President Donald Trump took to social media to threaten not just the Palestinian militant and political group but also the entire population of Gaza.

“Release all of the Hostages now … or it is OVER for you,” Trump wrote in a statement posted on his account on Truth Social.

He then broadened his threats.

“Also, to the People of Gaza: A beautiful Future awaits,” Trump wrote. “But not if you hold Hostages. If you do, you are DEAD!”
https://theintercept.com/2025/03/05/tru ... -hostages/

Fuck youse and what youse unleashed on the country because youse stupid fucking jackasses thought President Combover would give youse a better deal than Kamala lala lala. Deck the halls with boughs of holly. Kamala lala. Lala lala.

President Combover is Hitler, but without the genocide. Now hes going for the full Hitler.
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Re: Bending the Knee and Politics in 2025

Post by batmagadanleadoff » Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:05 am

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:14 am
batmagadanleadoff wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 5:07 pm
batmagadanleadoff wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 3:16 pm

Hey, youse stupid fucking jackass Michiganers who didn't wanna vote for Kamala lala lala: Aren't youse glad that instead, youse voted for President Draft Dodger with the Combover and now he's gonna ethnically cleanse your brown asses out of Gaza and move youse to Antarctica with the Eskimos. Or some El Salvadoran medieval prison. It's all the same to the madman youse voted for. Ethnical cleansing is fancy talk for the rubes that really means slaughter and annihilate youse with tanks and tear gas and bombs and bullets. Youse are so dumb youse probably think it means that he's gonna give you showers. Yeah! Showers that shoot poison gas! So are youse missing Kamala lala lala yet? Make a reservation at the Trump Gaza Resort and Casino Hotel.
Hey! Youse motherfucking let's not vote for Kamala lala lala's. Get a load of this:

Trump Administration Moves to Send $8 Billion in Arms to Israel, Bypassing Some Lawmakers

Whaddyayouse think that your favorite scumbag President with the combover and the 34 felony convictions that youse voted for wants Israel to do with those arms? He wants Israel to wipe youse out of Gaza so that he can put up his tacky hotels and casinos there with his tacky combover name on the facades. And you motherfuckers actually thought that he gave a shit about anything, world peace, humanitarianism, anything beyond making more money for himself and his kunt fraud daughter. What a bunch of suckers youse are. He's gonna wipe youse out if he has his way and all I can do about it is to write these schadenfreude posts because youse dragged me down into this mess youse made with your stupid ideas. Oh my god, what have youse done with your let's not vote for Kamala lala lala?

Dear Dearborners who didn't wanna vote for Kamala lala lala: Get a load of this!

Trump’s “Genocidal” Threat to Gaza: If Hamas Won’t Release Hostages, “You Are DEAD”

“He’s threatening an entire population with death — what else is that other than genocidal?” one expert told The Intercept.


Excerpt:
As the White House said Wednesday it is holding secret talks with Hamas, President Donald Trump took to social media to threaten not just the Palestinian militant and political group but also the entire population of Gaza.

“Release all of the Hostages now … or it is OVER for you,” Trump wrote in a statement posted on his account on Truth Social.

He then broadened his threats.

“Also, to the People of Gaza: A beautiful Future awaits,” Trump wrote. “But not if you hold Hostages. If you do, you are DEAD!”
https://theintercept.com/2025/03/05/tru ... -hostages/

Fuck youse and what youse unleashed on the country because youse stupid fucking jackasses thought President Combover would give youse a better deal than Kamala lala lala. Deck the halls with boughs of holly. Kamala lala. Lala lala.

President Combover is Hitler, but without the genocide. Now hes going for the full Hitler.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Internationa ... -119502853

Hamas basically tells President Hitler to go and fuck himself in his combover. Great. Thanks to the maniac in the White House, the Muslim terrorists will now commence to bomb and maim and terrorize us. And who's left to stop them? Kash Patel and the Three Stooges now running the FBI? Thank you, Dearborn.

More carnage to come.
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Post by ashie62 » Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:53 am

The problem with this thread is that it is totally one side

You either agree or get ostracized

I like the idea of US rebuilding Ukraine and the cessation of hostilities
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ashie62 wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:53 am The problem with this thread is that it is totally one side

You either agree or get ostracized

I like the idea of US rebuilding Ukraine and the cessation of hostilities
We get it, you believe it's a peace for our time.
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:41 am

ashie62 wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:53 am The problem with this thread is that it is totally one side

You either agree or get ostracized
Just like if this thread were made up of mostly Mississippians. But yeah, if you wanna tell us with a straight face, that Andrew Cuomo is America's worst politician, like the most disingenuous and phony person on this forum likes to do, then you deserve all the abuse that's gonna come your way.
ashie62 wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:53 am I like the idea of US rebuilding Ukraine and the cessation of hostilities
Peace, yes! But on what terms? Here's an idea: Let's let Hitler take all of Poland if that's what's gonna guarantee the "peace"? Here's another idea: How about you give me all of your money and all of your possessions and your entire record collection and all of your old Playboy magazines and expecially your minerals and I promise to not bomb your house. I'll keep the "peace". Then we can have "peace".
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Post by Lefty Specialist » Thu Mar 06, 2025 12:10 pm

Peace in Ukraine is easy. Just get the Russians to withdraw from Ukrainian territory. Yeah, that's not going to happen.

The problem is we now have a Russian asset in the White House, one who just told our allies to stop sharing intel with the Ukranians and who is going to revoke Temporary Protected status to Ukranian refugees, subjecting them to deportation. He wants Ukraine to surrender, thereby giving us 'peace', so that he can lift sanctions on Russia, allow them to rebuild their armed forces and threaten the rest of Europe. When Jasmine Crockett calls him 'Putin's Ho', she's right on the money.
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Post by Bob Alpacadaca » Thu Mar 06, 2025 1:13 pm

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:41 am
Just like if this thread were made up of mostly Mississippians. But yeah, if you wanna tell us with a straight face, that Andrew Cuomo is America's worst politician, like the most disingenuous and phony person on this forum likes to do, then you deserve all the abuse that's gonna come your way.
People here should have the ability to post their opinions without deserving "all the abuse that's gonna come your way" because they disagree with other posters.
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Post by ashie62 » Thu Mar 06, 2025 1:53 pm

That's my point
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Thu Mar 06, 2025 1:54 pm

Bob Alpacadaca wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 1:13 pm
batmagadanleadoff wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:41 am
Just like if this thread were made up of mostly Mississippians. But yeah, if you wanna tell us with a straight face, that Andrew Cuomo is America's worst politician, like the most disingenuous and phony person on this forum likes to do, then you deserve all the abuse that's gonna come your way.
People here should have the ability to post their opinions without deserving "all the abuse that's gonna come your way" because they disagree with other posters.
Tell me that Andrew Cuomo is America's worst politician and you'll find out.
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ashie62 wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 1:53 pmThat's my point
So give it back.
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Post by Bob Alpacadaca » Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:15 pm

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 1:54 pm
Bob Alpacadaca wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 1:13 pm
batmagadanleadoff wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:41 am
Just like if this thread were made up of mostly Mississippians. But yeah, if you wanna tell us with a straight face, that Andrew Cuomo is America's worst politician, like the most disingenuous and phony person on this forum likes to do, then you deserve all the abuse that's gonna come your way.
People here should have the ability to post their opinions without deserving "all the abuse that's gonna come your way" because they disagree with other posters.
Tell me that Andrew Cuomo is America's worst politician and you'll find out.
Are you really threatening a forum member to agree with you or else?
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:32 pm

Bob Alpacadaca wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:15 pm
batmagadanleadoff wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 1:54 pm
Bob Alpacadaca wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 1:13 pm

People here should have the ability to post their opinions without deserving "all the abuse that's gonna come your way" because they disagree with other posters.
Tell me that Andrew Cuomo is America's worst politician and you'll find out.
Are you really threatening a forum member to agree with you or else?
Of course not. But if some ninny has a seizure and thinks that a call to the FBI is necessary because some Mets fan showed up at Citi Field in a garish fur coat, I'm gonna disagree. When someone thinks that David Wright is a Hall of Famer even though it's not even remotely a close call by any objective measure, I'm gonna disagree.
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Post by Lefty Specialist » Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:39 pm

"umm......Just kidding about that fur coat, Mr. Patel."
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Post by Bob Alpacadaca » Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:43 pm

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:32 pm
Bob Alpacadaca wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:15 pm
batmagadanleadoff wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 1:54 pm

Tell me that Andrew Cuomo is America's worst politician and you'll find out.
Are you really threatening a forum member to agree with you or else?
Of course not. But if some ninny has a seizure and thinks that a call to the FBI is necessary because some Mets fan showed up at Citi Field in a garish fur coat, I'm gonna disagree. When someone thinks that David Wright is a Hall of Famer even though it's not even remotely a close call by any objective measure, I'm gonna disagree.
"I'm gonna disagree" sure is different than telling people you'll dole out abuse and "you'll find out" if they post an opinion that differs from yours. Those are undeniable threats.
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Post by rchurch314 » Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:51 pm

"I'm just disagreeing" is disingenuous. It's classic right-wing misdirection to put a terrible opinion on the same level as knowledge and refuse to adjust your thinking on it. Like when people "disagree" that the covid19 wasn't created in a lab, or the safety of vaccines, or that trans people don't exist.

This one is a little less black and white I guess, but "I like trump's 'idea' to let Putin have whatever he wants" is pretty terrible.
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:07 pm

Bob Alpacadaca wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:43 pm
batmagadanleadoff wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:32 pm
Bob Alpacadaca wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:15 pm

Are you really threatening a forum member to agree with you or else?
Of course not. But if some ninny has a seizure and thinks that a call to the FBI is necessary because some Mets fan showed up at Citi Field in a garish fur coat, I'm gonna disagree. When someone thinks that David Wright is a Hall of Famer even though it's not even remotely a close call by any objective measure, I'm gonna disagree.
"I'm gonna disagree" sure is different than telling people you'll dole out abuse and "you'll find out" if they post an opinion that differs from yours. Those are undeniable threats.
Stop making up fucking nonsense.
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Post by Bob Alpacadaca » Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:44 pm

Stop making up fucking nonsense.
Just like if this thread were made up of mostly Mississippians. But yeah, if you wanna tell us with a straight face, that Andrew Cuomo is America's worst politician, like the most disingenuous and phony person on this forum likes to do, then you deserve all the abuse that's gonna come your way.
Tell me that Andrew Cuomo is America's worst politician and you'll find out.
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:42 pm

Bob Alpacadaca wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:44 pm
Stop making up fucking nonsense.
Just like if this thread were made up of mostly Mississippians. But yeah, if you wanna tell us with a straight face, that Andrew Cuomo is America's worst politician, like the most disingenuous and phony person on this forum likes to do, then you deserve all the abuse that's gonna come your way.
Tell me that Andrew Cuomo is America's worst politician and you'll find out.
Anybody who claims that Andrew Cuomo is America's worst politician is either an idiot or is trolling everybody. And if you think that what I just wrote is some kind of a threat rather than a disagreement, then you too are an idiot.
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Post by MFS62 » Fri Mar 07, 2025 3:40 pm

He proved that he's an economic idiot - again.
His MAGA sycophants knew all along that his central economic proposal was a sham, but they repeated his lies. And now the economy is cracking.
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Lefty Jr has so far survived 47 days. Only 1414 to go. He's trying to stay under the radar. I congratulated him on making it through another week, but he said "Yeah, but they fire people on the weekends, too."
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