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Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:50 am
by MFS62
A ship ran into a bridge, causing the bridge to collapse, blocking the #9 largest port in the country.
Of the many people on the bridge at the time, only two have been recovered.(so far)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 18673.html

Terrible.
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Re: Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:41 am
by whippoorwill
First thing I saw this morning 🙁

I have a niece in Pasadena she’s okay.

Re: Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:52 am
by Centerfield
The stuff of nightmares.

How does a bridge go down like that with one ship hitting it. Crazy.

Re: Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:55 am
by Benjamin Grimm
I watched the video of the collision. It's hard to believe. The collapse happened almost instantly.

The loss of lives is obviously the most tragic part of this, but the impact on auto traffic and shipping is going to take a long time to untangle.

Re: Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:01 pm
by Johnny Lunchbucket
Those cargo ships are massive, like a warehouse on the sea.

Sounds like they were lucky to avoid more injuries--ship sent a mayday signal giving workers time to restrict traffic onto the bridge (or so I've read)

Re: Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:53 pm
by MFS62
As of 12:45 PM, six people still missing.
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Re: Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:29 pm
by metirish
Unbelievable to see this unfold , I can't imagine any bridge being able to sustain an out of control ship like this , surprised this doesn't happen more often

Re: Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:32 pm
by MFS62
metirish wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:29 pm Unbelievable to see this unfold , I can't imagine any bridge being able to sustain an out of control ship like this , surprised this doesn't happen more often
It was built before regulations were passed that provide for floating barriers around bridge supports that would have absorbed the shock and re-directed the boat.
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Re: Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:41 pm
by Benjamin Grimm
Well, if that's the case, I don't see what would have stopped them from adding the floating barriers at any time over the last few decades.

Re: Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:42 pm
by metirish
Benjamin Grimm wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:41 pm Well, if that's the case, I don't see what would have stopped them from adding the floating barriers at any time over the last few decades.

Exactly

Re: Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:47 pm
by MFS62
Right-wingers are already pushing conspiracy theories:
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... 234994467/

Disgraceful.
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Re: Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:50 pm
by MFS62
Benjamin Grimm wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:41 pm Well, if that's the case, I don't see what would have stopped them from adding the floating barriers at any time over the last few decades.
From what I've read, the add-ons don't do as good a job as those that are being built into the initial design under the new law. I'm not sure if this bridge had the add-ons.
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Re: Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:08 pm
by MFS62
Has anyone heard from our resident Baltimorean, Edgy?
Can he provide additional insight from his local media?
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Re: Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:04 pm
by kcmets
Edguardo is probably stuck in traffic.

Re: Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:41 pm
by Edgy MD
I’ve been on the road today, celebrating my wife’s birthday.

Please support the revitalization of our public infrastructure and push back against misinformation and disinformation.

Re: Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:07 pm
by MFS62
Edgy MD wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:41 pm Please support the revitalization of our public infrastructure and push back against misinformation and disinformation.
Stay well, Edgy.
This ex-Baltimore reporter is really pushing back against the conspiracy theorists.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/wir ... 31374.html

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Re: Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:14 pm
by kcmets
Happy birthday, Señora Edguardo!

I read some want to impeach Buttigieg. I don't know if you can impeach
the Secretary of Transportation but some of the nut jobs don't care so long
as they can spew the spew.

Re: Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:13 pm
by Edgy MD
Oh, they can impeach him. They may not have any grounds to, but its a lot easier than doing any actual governing. Three attempted impeachments at once should pretty much clear the rest of the Congressional agenda, if there ever was anything else on the rest of the agenda to begin with.

The señora thanks you kindly.

Re: Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:17 am
by metirish
The vile comments about the mayor are truely awful

Re: Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:08 am
by Edgy MD
Who is doing that?

Re: Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:12 am
by metirish

This right here is typical of what Twitter is currently throwing on my feed

Re: Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:35 am
by Edgy MD
Yeah, we choose our mayors through fair and open elections here in Baltimore, just like in many other cities.

I do not know if that X-er is anybody with any kind of authority, but I hope not.

Re: Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:16 pm
by Lefty Specialist
As for the construction of the bridge, almost no bridge would be able to survive a direct hit like that. The vessel was moving at 9 mph, which means there was a f*ckton of momentum. Imagine the Empire State building turned on its side coming at you at a brisk jog. There were bridge protectors but they were set up to block/deflect a perpendicular hit, but this vessel came in on an angle.

Container ships these days are easily 3 times the size they were only 20 years ago. They spent 10 years and untold billions widening the Panama Canal and it's already outdated. They spent over a billion dollars raising the Bayonne Bridge to accommodate these vessels. While building enormous ships makes it cheaper for the vessel carriers, it makes it costlier for everyone else.

Baltimore's port is closed indefinitely, but other US ports will probably be able to take up the slack. They may be able to get the bridge cleared out in a few months. Building a new bridge could take a decade.

Re: Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:54 pm
by Edgy MD
We've got 15,000 jobs directly related to our port, and perhaps 10 times as many indirectly linked.

This is a wonderful place to live, but like many cities, we've got a lot of institutions crumbling — our churches, schools, newspapers — and we've been working hard to rebuild our purpose and community. This is not where we expected the next hit to come from.

Re: Holy S**t - Baltimore

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:34 pm
by whippoorwill
The two men who were rescued will really have a story to tell.
What a shame that they couldn’t have all gotten off the bridge to safety.
Very sad tragedy.