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Hunter Biden in hot water
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:49 pm
by Benjamin Grimm
The Associated Press wrote:WILMINGTON, Del. (AP) — Hunter Biden was convicted Tuesday of all three felony charges related to the purchase of a revolver in 2018 when, prosecutors argued, the president’s son lied on a mandatory gun-purchase form by saying he was not illegally using or addicted to drugs.
Hunter Biden stared straight ahead and showed little emotion as the verdict was read after jurors deliberated for three hours over two days. He hugged his attorneys, smiled wanly and kissed his wife, Melissa, before leaving the courtroom with her.
He faces up to 25 years in prison when he is sentenced by U.S. District Judge Maryellen Noreika, though first-time offenders do not get anywhere near the maximum, and it’s unclear whether she would give him time behind bars. The judge did not set a sentencing date.
Re: Hunter Biden in hot water
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:52 pm
by metirish
President Biden said in an interview with David Muir last week that no pardon would be forthcoming, as should be the case .
Re: Hunter Biden in hot water
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:19 pm
by MFS62
Hunter Biden also faces Tax charges, in a trial to be heard later this year.
Later
Re: Hunter Biden in hot water
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:05 pm
by nymr83
metirish wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:52 pm
President Biden said in an interview with David Muir last week that no pardon would be forthcoming, as should be the case .
Yeah, not that either candidate could sink much lower in approval ratings but pardoning a family member is more of a "last day of the second term" type move.
Re: Hunter Biden in hot water
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:16 pm
by Benjamin Grimm
I suppose the president may change his tune on this if he loses in November.
Or also, perhaps, if he wins.
Re: Hunter Biden in hot water
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:30 pm
by Edgy MD
I certainly hope no jail time is on the line anyhow.
On the other hand, Judge Noreika already throw out a plea bargain, forcing this case to be tried, so she may very well planning to lock the guy up.
Re: Hunter Biden in hot water
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 5:55 pm
by TransMonk
That's it.
I won't be voting for Hunter Biden in the fall.
Re: Hunter Biden in hot water
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:44 pm
by Johnny Lunchbucket
Lol
Re: Hunter Biden in hot water
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:05 pm
by nymr83
Edgy MD wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:30 pm
I certainly hope no jail time is on the line anyhow.
On the other hand, Judge Noreika already throw out a plea bargain, forcing this case to be tried, so she may very well planning to lock the guy up.
Why do you hope there is no jail time?
Frankly, I would like to see jail time for his sister in law - dumping a gun in a dumpster behind a school SHOULD be the biggest crime here.
Re: Hunter Biden in hot water
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:38 pm
by Edgy MD
Because that's generally the way the system works.
I mean, if can be demonstrated that guys with similar records convicted of similar crimes are getting time, give him time. My experience says that's not so, but I only know so much.
Re: Hunter Biden in hot water
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:06 pm
by nymr83
I don't disagree with that at all, I just would have assumed there was typically jail time here
Re: Hunter Biden in hot water
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:43 pm
by Frayed Knot
The crime was lying on federal forms to obtain the gun. Not sure how often that kind of crime even comes up.
I'd certainly want there to be some kind of punishment for connected citizens deciding that rules and regs don't
apply to them, whether that punishment involves jail time or not.
Re: Hunter Biden in hot water
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 12:26 am
by Edgy MD
nymr83 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:06 pm
I don't disagree with that at all, I just would have assumed there was typically jail time here
Well, it's obviously up to the judge, and I expect that is significant, not merely because the former president who appointed her has a very questionable record on putting his own idea of loyalty and politics ahead of more traditional judicial qualities, but because she already threw out a plea bargain that the government had agreed upon.
That said, he didn't use the gun in connection with another crime, he is a non-violent offender, he owned it apparently for less than two weeks, he has no prior record, and he has cooperated with terms of his pretrial release, including monthly drug testing. Those are mitigating factors that should, and typically do, feed into the sentencing.
One key thing that works against him is that the gun was found in and removed from his car, which strikes me as carrying, rather than merely owning the gun. That sort of makes the "possession" charge more than technical, and it clearly made him a more dangerous citizen, holding the law in deeper contempt.
Opinions seem to vary on what he faces at sentencing.
Re: Hunter Biden in hot water
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 1:17 am
by Fman99
This whole thing makes me want to drink a Billy Beer.
Re: Hunter Biden in hot water
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 7:47 am
by Frayed Knot
Fman99 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2024 1:17 am
This whole thing makes me want to drink a Billy Beer.
Or nine.
Re: Hunter Biden in hot water
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 11:25 am
by metsmarathon
Gee. You’d think that with biden calling all the shots for every judge and jury everywhere, he coulda gotten his own dang son unconvicted.
Re: Hunter Biden in hot water
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 11:27 am
by Edgy MD
In Wilmington, no less.
Re: Hunter Biden in hot water
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 3:01 pm
by Lefty Specialist
99% of the time this would have been pled out. Normally this would only be an adjunct charge at trial if a crime were committed with the gun, not a standalone charge. It only went to trial because of political pressure.
You'd think Republicans would be against any verdict that says someone CAN'T own a gun, but there ya go.
Re: Hunter Biden in hot water
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 3:15 pm
by MFS62
Lefty Specialist wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2024 3:01 pm
You'd think Republicans would be against any verdict that says someone CAN'T own a gun, but there ya go.
Then they're going to go ratshit bonkers (as compared to their usual bonkers) when DT has to surrender the guns has registered in his name because he is a convicted felon and can't own any.
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Re: Hunter Biden in hot water
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:15 pm
by whippoorwill
Lol can’t wait for that comedy drama