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Post by kcmets » Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:52 pm

A Facebook Meme wrote:FUNNY HOW DEMOCRATS WEREN'T SCREAMIN WHEN CLINTON FIRED 400,000 FEDERAL EMPLOYEES UNDER HIS "REINVENTING GOVERMENT INITIATIV" PROBABLY BECAUSE HE SHIFTED AND CREATED MILLIONS OF GOVERNMENT CONTRACTOR JOBS WHICH LED TO THE DEMOCRATS DEEP STATE.
A poster's reaction to this:

"Oh that’s right, it’s only wrong if you’re a Republican 😂
Hypocritical assholes 🤣
This is why history is important and shouldn’t be covered up by indoctrinators.
I’ll bet 99% of the liberal screamers have no idea this happened. The remaining
1% that know play dumb about it."
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Post by kcmets » Sat Feb 08, 2025 9:08 pm

"Did you catch this part?
Elon said “I was told that there are currently over $100B/year of entitlements payments to individuals with no SSN or even a temporary ID number. If accurate, this is extremely suspicious.”
Over $100 BILLION is being sent every year to people in America with no Social Security number
This may be the biggest money laundering scandal since Ukraine, ActBlue, and all the other globalist scams
This is why Democrats are freaking out - their DC gravy train was just exposed
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Post by Edgy MD » Sat Feb 08, 2025 10:12 pm

"I was told" that if you walk downstairs backwards in the dark while playing Black Sabbath, you will see see Satan.

It's true! My older cousin Phil and his friend Wacker did it!
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Post by MFS62 » Sun Feb 09, 2025 9:40 am

Edgy MD wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 10:12 pm "I was told" that if you walk downstairs backwards in the dark while playing Black Sabbath, you will see see Satan.
The person who told you that and Musk both have mental issues, but I believe the person who told you that more
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Apparently one did. He can't get away from the tell.
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Post by Lefty Specialist » Mon Feb 10, 2025 7:28 am

So it's a small thing, but me and the missus have been mulling this over for a while.

I own a Tesla. When I bought it in September 2020, Elon was a little crazy and said stupid things, but the Model Y had just come out and it was far and away the best electric car for the buck. Love the car, have done long road trips in it, and have had only minor problems over 4 1/2 years of ownership.

But then Elon bought Twitter and turned it into a right-wing cesspool. And then he came out for Trump so hard that he kicked Melania out of the adjacent bedroom. Then he unleashed his merry band of incels to destroy the government as we know it. At first I got one of those bumper stickers that say 'We bought this before we knew Elon was crazy'. But it wasn't enough.

My wife always hated it because everything's controlled by that big Ipad in the middle, and lots of things that Elon did because he could, like annoying door handles and a glovebox that you have search through a menu to open.. So today we're selling it to Carvana and getting a brand spanking new Honda Prologue. EV's have improved tremendously in the past 5 years and we got a deal on this one that we couldn't pass up. And so we bid farewell to our Swastikar.
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Post by Johnny Lunchbucket » Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:44 am

Good for you. Get that fucking piece of shit off the road
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Post by Lefty Specialist » Mon Feb 10, 2025 10:21 am

It's mixed feelings, because the car was definitely fun to drive. We'd figured we would hang on to it another year, but with Trump threatening to cancel the $7500 rebate and Elon being a general dick, we decided it was time to switch.
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Post by Edgy MD » Mon Feb 10, 2025 10:45 am

I hope you make an art project out of the thing.
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Post by kcmets » Mon Feb 10, 2025 1:55 pm

Real quote of the day from a nutty lemming on fb...

"Chronic sycophants Kathy Huckster and Kristen Jilt-your brand, are now bemoaning the chance Trump may cut the DOE,I don't know how that's gonna affect things at the local level, no one does, but they both threaten taxes will go up, sadly that's their only response, it's always tax and spend with the dominant party here in nys. Pity they have to scare taxpayers instead of finding a way to cut spending and waste themselves. Legal mugging, yet Trump is the criminal they say"
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Post by kcmets » Tue Feb 11, 2025 9:39 pm

This guy is going to have an aneurism, he loves DJT so much...

"If the Gulf was renamed by Biden to "Gulf of Hunter" or the "Gulf of AOC", liberals would have creamed themselves into oblivion. But since it's Trump and America, it's derangement on steroids."
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Post by TransMonk » Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:42 pm

I saw an Instagram post that labelled it "Totino's Pizza Rolls Presents The Gulf of America Powered by The Home Depot" on a map.
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Post by Edgy MD » Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:16 am

kcmets wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 9:39 pm This guy is going to have an aneurism, he loves DJT so much...

"If the Gulf was renamed by Biden to "Gulf of Hunter" or the "Gulf of AOC", liberals would have creamed themselves into oblivion. But since it's Trump and America, it's derangement on steroids."
That is a really, really weird comment.

It is Crazy Eddie-level insane.

Anyhow, the Gulf of America Incident has pushed me to utterly bail on Google, something I should've done a long time ago. Me 'n' DuckDuckGo are now real tight.
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Post by kcmets » Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:20 am

Wait 'til you see the meme I'm gonna post this afternoon!
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Post by Benjamin Grimm » Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:27 am

I'm glad he didn't call it the Gulf of AOC. I would have hated to have to cream myself into oblivion.
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Post by kcmets » Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:00 pm

People believe in this stuff.

Again, what we're up against...

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Post by Edgy MD » Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:39 pm

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:27 am I'm glad he didn't call it the Gulf of AOC. I would have hated to have to cream myself into oblivion.
On the other hand, if I've gotta go ...
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Post by Chad ochoseis » Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:37 pm

I'll just note that if Trump cures cancer, I'll gladly vote Republican in 2026.
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Post by metsmarathon » Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:42 pm

lol, like you or anybody outside the oligarchy could afford to pay for the treatment.

no way republicans would allow it to be available to the poors, or the browns.
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Post by kcmets » Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:00 pm

I just noticed, I wonder if they intentionally photoshopped his
thumbs to look like tiny penises or if they photoshopped them to
make them bigger or something.

Either way, 'poor' Melania...
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Post by MFS62 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:15 pm

Y'mean he cured us of MAGA?
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:43 pm

Lefty Specialist wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 7:28 am So it's a small thing, but me and the missus have been mulling this over for a while.

I own a Tesla. When I bought it in September 2020, Elon was a little crazy and said stupid things, but the Model Y had just come out and it was far and away the best electric car for the buck. Love the car, have done long road trips in it, and have had only minor problems over 4 1/2 years of ownership.

But then Elon bought Twitter and turned it into a right-wing cesspool. And then he came out for Trump so hard that he kicked Melania out of the adjacent bedroom. Then he unleashed his merry band of incels to destroy the government as we know it. At first I got one of those bumper stickers that say 'We bought this before we knew Elon was crazy'. But it wasn't enough.

My wife always hated it because everything's controlled by that big Ipad in the middle, and lots of things that Elon did because he could, like annoying door handles and a glovebox that you have search through a menu to open.. So today we're selling it to Carvana and getting a brand spanking new Honda Prologue. EV's have improved tremendously in the past 5 years and we got a deal on this one that we couldn't pass up. And so we bid farewell to our Swastikar.
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Furious at Musk? Don’t Buy a Tesla.
The company is in a precarious position. This is a case where buying choices can effectively communicate rage.

There are myriad reasons to loathe Elon Musk, the CEO of Tesla, who has become a top ally of Donald Trump.

OG haters have long accused Musk of endangering road users by exaggerating the capabilities of Tesla’s navigation assistance systems, misleadingly named Autopilot and Full-Self Driving. The ranks of the angry have steadily grown, fueled by Musk’s habit of amplifying trans-bashing and antisemitism as well as his demolition of Twitter. Now, as Musk cozies up to extremists across Europe, wields the Department of Government Efficiency as a wrecking ball against the federal government, and generally acts as an unelected leader, the furor is reaching a fever pitch.

The signs are everywhere. Tesla owners are scrambling to buy bumper stickers with messages like “Shut Up Elon” and “I Bought This Before Elon Went Crazy”; activists are labeling the vehicles “swasticars.” Anti-Musk graffiti has appeared the world over, from Fort Lauderdale, Florida, to Wellington, New Zealand, to The Hague. In Berlin, police are trying to figure out who projected an image of Musk’s Nazi salute along with the words Heil Tesla on the side of the city’s Tesla factory.

It might feel as if Musk is untouchable. But he’s not. And this growing discontent can be channeled into concrete action. If you want Musk to feel your rage, don’t buy a Tesla. And if you already own one, consider selling it.

Musk’s stake in Tesla comprises the lion’s share of his wealth. He can laugh off a few protesters, but if consumers launch a sustained boycott, both Musk and his car company could find themselves in dire straits. Tesla was already in a precarious position before Musk’s flirtation with the far right turned into an all-out embrace. Nosediving sales would be an incapacitating blow.

Yes, under normal circumstances, skepticism about consumer boycotts is justified. Despite a few legendary triumphs, such as the 1960s Delano grape boycott, which helped Cesar Chavez secure wage increases for farmworkers, and the 1980s South African boycott, which hastened the end of apartheid, their overall track record is spotty. Rather than cave to customer demands, targeted companies often wait until popular anger subsides and the media loses interest. Nike, BP, and Goya are among the brands that have emerged relatively unscathed in recent years. “Outrage comes and goes, and so do boycotts,” University of Pennsylvania marketing professor Americus Reed wrote in the New York Times in 2017.

But for a combination of reasons, consumer rejection could be uniquely devastating to Tesla right now. The company’s vulnerability stems from its eye-popping market valuation, which was $1.15 trillion as of Friday. To put that figure in perspective, it is five times as high as Toyota’s, 25 times as high as General Motors’, and 31 times as high as Ford’s. (Each of these companies builds vastly more vehicles.) Equally stunning is Tesla’s astronomical price-to-earnings ratio of 181, which assumes mind-boggling profit growth. For years, Tesla’s lofty stock price has provided a notable advantage over competitors, since each share offered as compensation to employees is so valuable.

Tesla’s soaring valuation has been driven primarily by two forces: first, historically scorching sales growth across its three core markets of North America, Europe, and China; and second, investor belief that Musk is a genius who can conjure lucrative innovations out of thin air. (Although Musk has described Tesla as a diversified “chain of startups,” automobile sales accounted for about 85 percent of its revenue in 2023. So it’s kind of just a car company.) Tesla’s media events are a circus, with Musk playing ringleader as he unveils futuristic products like humanoid robots, self-driven taxis, and even an Art Deco bus (which did look pretty cool, admittedly).

But even before Musk’s pivot to the hard right, Tesla was under mounting pressure. The company’s global vehicle sales fell in 2024, the first such decline in its history, and its profit margins have been shrinking. The Cybertruck, Tesla’s first new product in years, has flopped, and the company’s existing lineup is growing stale, with only minor updates in the works.

“Tesla’s refreshes are pretty modest, and they’re driven by improving profitability,” said Ed Niedermeyer, who has written a book about Tesla and is working on a follow-up. “They’re not necessarily delivering a lot of extra value to customers, and they’re certainly not keeping up with the torrid level of competition in China.” In 2022 and 2023, Tesla’s growth in China exceeded 40 percent; in 2024 it was just 8 percent—and January sales fell 11.5 percent.
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Tesla faces headwinds elsewhere too. In Europe, consumer demand is weak, and Chinese EV companies like BYD and Xpeng are expanding their presence, which “leaves the U.S. as Tesla’s pivot point for its core car business,” Niedermeyer said. But unlike a few years ago, American consumers can now consider a wide array of quality EVs produced by Tesla competitors, such as the Hyundai Ioniq 5, Car and Driver’s 2024 EV of the year.

With Tesla’s fundamentals looking shaky, the company’s elevated stock price becomes increasingly dependent on the belief that Musk the magician can deliver wildly creative new products. That image is fading. Last year, Tesla rented Warner Bros. Studios, in Burbank, California, to unveil the “Cybercab,” a vehicle that, according to Musk, will begin offering robotaxi service in Austin this summer. The market response to the Cybercab has been tepid; many observers noted that the company’s CEO has consistently failed to meet previous deadlines to deliver self-driving technology, and that Waymo, which already offers robotaxi service in several cities, seems far ahead.

To summarize, even before Musk alienated millions of people with his Nazi salute and DOGE-enabled federal rampage, the two engines behind Tesla’s steep valuations were sputtering: Its car business was looking shaky and its product pipeline appeared weak. Still, Musk’s alliance with Trump seems to have persuaded Wall Street to ignore these developments; Tesla stock jumped 60 percent in the two months following Trump’s election.

That rise has masked underlying vulnerability. Given the expectations of searing growth baked into Tesla’s sky-high valuation, even a modest consumer revolt could cause it to plummet. Consider: If Tesla’s price-to-earnings ratio fell from 181 to 50—a figure still at least eight times as high as Toyota’s or Ford’s—its stock price would tumble 70 percent.

Things might already be headed in that direction. In Europe, Tesla’s January sales collapsed by at least 40 percent in countries including France, Spain, Norway, and Germany. Musk’s sullied reputation appears to be a factor: A pollster found a double-digit surge in Swedes expressing a negative view of Tesla following Trump’s inauguration, at which Musk was widely condemned for giving a Hitler salute. As the drop in European revenue raised eyebrows last week, Tesla stock shed 6 percent of its value, and it dropped a further 8 percent over the past two days.

American sales figures are still trickling in, but Tesla has cause to worry in its home market too. In California, a left-leaning state with the largest EV market in the nation, Tesla sales fell 8 percent in the fourth quarter of 2024.

A North American sales collapse would be a disaster for Tesla shareholders, starting with Musk himself, who owns around 13 percent of the company. “Musk’s stake in Tesla is partly pledged for loans that he depends on for cash,” Niedermeyer said. If the value of his Tesla stock falls, lenders could force Musk to sell additional shares. Many Tesla investors (and his fan base) may see that as a vote of no confidence in the company’s future, prompting them to sell shares—triggering a full-on Wall Street rout, with Tesla’s stock crashing in value.


What does this mean for people outraged by Musk’s recent behavior? Take it out on Tesla by boycotting the company. Any further dip in Tesla sales would amplify growing calls for Musk’s ouster as CEO. Whatever time Musk spends doing damage control is time not spent dismantling federal agencies or elevating Europe’s far right. If you were considering buying a Tesla, don’t. If you’re renting a car, choose another brand. And if you own a Tesla, sell it. Yes, that would help: A deluge of used Teslas would lower their resale value, further depressing the new-car sales that the company depends upon.

For years, Tesla has capitalized on Musk’s showmanship and celebrity to obtain an eye-watering market valuation. Now that Musk is wreaking havoc on America, it’s rational that people direct their fury at the car company whose identity is inextricably linked to his own.

Happily, today’s car buyers can find plenty of quality electric vehicles built by companies whose CEOs have neither destroyed a federal agency nor endorsed extremism. If you’re in the market for an EV, buy one of those.
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Post by Johnny Lunchbucket » Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:50 pm

And blow up your Twitter now.
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Post by kcmets » Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:11 pm

I read today that 11-12 of the agencies that 'Musk has shut down'
all have open investigations on him and his own.

Golly gee willikers, what a shock...
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Post by Edgy MD » Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:37 pm

Twitter and Shlamazon long since blown up. Swore off Google yesterday.

Hey, here is a guy I know talking absolute madness.

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If my neighbors on my left were eaten by cheetahs, and my neighbors on my right were eaten by cheetahs, and the healthiest, best-fed, most ravenous cheetah I ever saw came to my door and said to let him in, because he is really good at finding food and wants to help quadruple my food stores, I wouldn't exactly say no.

Except I would totally say no.
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Post by Lefty Specialist » Thu Feb 13, 2025 8:47 pm

So the State Department is going to buy $400 million of armored Cybertrucks from Elon. I mean, the corruption is so open that it takes your breath away.

I will love to see the Tesla sales figures for the first quarter of 2025. They'll be stunning. Liberals bought his cars and he's pissed them all off. MAGA won't buy his cars because electric vehicles are a socialist plot. So that kind of leaves no market share. Who's his customer these days? Oh year, the State Department.
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