Adopted: Francisco Alvarez
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I would guess that he gets a mid-season promotion, perhaps after the All-Star Break.
Since, like, 1990, only two catchers have stuck after debuting before their 21st birthday, I think. More have failed. It's just hard to establish starting catchers at any age. Easier to come up as a backup, and learn to hit while somebody else plays the heavy.
My first thought when it comes to catchers coming up at 20 is John Gibbons.
Doesn't mean it can't be done, of course.
Since, like, 1990, only two catchers have stuck after debuting before their 21st birthday, I think. More have failed. It's just hard to establish starting catchers at any age. Easier to come up as a backup, and learn to hit while somebody else plays the heavy.
My first thought when it comes to catchers coming up at 20 is John Gibbons.
Doesn't mean it can't be done, of course.
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I just did a Google search on "youngest all-star catcher" and got this:
Ivan Rodriguez was the youngest catcher to start an All-Star Game when he was voted to start in 1993. Pudge was 21 years old at the time (born in November 1971). He had been previously named as an alternate the year before in 1992.
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Re: Adopted: Francisco Alvarez
Sticking with this, I looked to see how many catchers had enough playing time (and success) in their first season to win the Rookie of the Year award.
There have been nine:
- 1968 Johnny Bench (CIN)
1970 Thurman Munson (NY)
1971 Earl Williams (ATL)
1972 Carlton Fisk (BOS)
1987 Benito Santiago (SD)
1990 Sandy Alomar Jr. (CLE)
1993 Mike Piazza (LA)
2008 Geovany Soto (CHN)
2010 Buster Posey (SF)
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Re: Adopted: Francisco Alvarez
Alvarez can do more than clobber homers, as he garnered two singles a double on Friday. He left the game in the 10th with what appeared to be an injury.
This appeared to be confirmed on Saturday as he sat out. He nonetheless returned to the lineup in the DH slot yesterday and ... clobbered a three-run homer.
Fortunately for the Rumble Ponies, Francisco's downtime comes while they have rehab patient James McCann with them to help out with the catching.
This appeared to be confirmed on Saturday as he sat out. He nonetheless returned to the lineup in the DH slot yesterday and ... clobbered a three-run homer.
Fortunately for the Rumble Ponies, Francisco's downtime comes while they have rehab patient James McCann with them to help out with the catching.
Re: Adopted: Francisco Alvarez
He's hitting .285 for the season, but has hit 15 homers for Double-A Binghamton this season; 11 of them have come over his last 21 games. Álvarez leads all Double-A batters in homers, slugging percentage (.852) and OPS (1.276) over 92 plate appearances in that timeframe.
https://www.nj.com/sports/2022/06/mets- ... plate.html
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Headed to Syracuse
Was quoted as saying that this not only means he's closer to the big leagues but that now he'll get to hang with FMan, so it's a Win-Win promotion.
Was quoted as saying that this not only means he's closer to the big leagues but that now he'll get to hang with FMan, so it's a Win-Win promotion.
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Plus, he lasted long enough in Binghamton to eat on Scherzer's dime.
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Francisco 1-for-3 with a walk and an RBI so far in his Syracuse debut.
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Also notable about that debut is that Alvarez threw out his first would-be base-stealer.
I still don't know what the formula is for developing a starting catcher, but MLB pipeline has named him baseball's second-best prospect.
I still don't know what the formula is for developing a starting catcher, but MLB pipeline has named him baseball's second-best prospect.
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According to SNY, on Thursday it will be announced that he's been named to the All-Star futures game.
https://www.sny.tv/articles/mets-franci ... RGpn_q24_s
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I blame Susan Collins
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in a large group". George Carlin
I have never insulted anyone. I simply describe them, accurately.
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in a large group". George Carlin
I have never insulted anyone. I simply describe them, accurately.
Re: Adopted: Francisco Alvarez
What seems like an oblique injury to McCannister may offer itself as a pretext to call Francisco's name.
Re: Adopted: Francisco Alvarez
While I'd like to see it, he hasn't adjusted to AAA pitching yet, and has been in a (hopefully) mini-slump since he got there.
If he had ben mashing at Syracuse, a better argument could be made for bringing him up.
With Alvarez, I'll trust the old adage "Good things happen to those who wait".
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I blame Susan Collins
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in a large group". George Carlin
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"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in a large group". George Carlin
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Re: Adopted: Francisco Alvarez
Yeah, it was just a maybe. Certainly not advocating.
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I believe he gets called up at some point sans a trade for a veteran.
Is Francisco a generational talent? Might be.
Is Francisco a generational talent? Might be.
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Re: Adopted: Francisco Alvarez
Francisco's first AAA home run is a Grand Slam in today's game.
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I blame Susan Collins
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in a large group". George Carlin
I have never insulted anyone. I simply describe them, accurately.
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in a large group". George Carlin
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Re: Adopted: Francisco Alvarez
Francisco's BA is barely North of the Interstate, but his second home run last night was a walkoff.
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I blame Susan Collins
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"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in a large group". George Carlin
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Re: Adopted: Francisco Alvarez
He has a criminally low BABIP so far, but everything else is OK so far at AAA. I'm betting he'll be cruising in another week or two.
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This is what Francisco Álvarez did last night. What did you do?
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Re: Adopted: Francisco Alvarez
I have to say, I'm glad they didn't trade him.
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I know he still has growing pains, but there's no way we ride with the catchers we have in September and October if there's a catcher at AAA who can do THAT.
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He came out of his slump with violence last night.
I fear he may be a full-time DH by 25.
I fear he may be a full-time DH by 25.
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Per Andy Martino of SNY, Francisco Álvarez has been experiencing right ankle soreness and will be evaluated in New York this week. There is a possibility he will have to miss time.
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I blame Susan Collins
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in a large group". George Carlin
I have never insulted anyone. I simply describe them, accurately.
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in a large group". George Carlin
I have never insulted anyone. I simply describe them, accurately.
Re: Adopted: Francisco Alvarez
He has a "loose body" in the ankle and will be able to resume baseball duties soon.
https://metsmerizedonline.com/francisco ... ght-ankle/
sigh of relief.
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https://metsmerizedonline.com/francisco ... ght-ankle/
sigh of relief.
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I blame Susan Collins
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in a large group". George Carlin
I have never insulted anyone. I simply describe them, accurately.
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in a large group". George Carlin
I have never insulted anyone. I simply describe them, accurately.