Baseball Passings 2023

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Re: Baseball Passings 2023

Post by Edgy MD » Fri Apr 28, 2023 3:23 pm

Please note the word "seemingly" is in there.
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Re: Baseball Passings 2023

Post by Benjamin Grimm » Fri Apr 28, 2023 3:27 pm

I was curious about two things: Does Mr. Paint Can have a name, and what's with the letter Z on his chest?

I found an answer to the second question, but not the first:
In 1948 the team changed its name to the Zollner Pistons in honor of Fred Zollner who owned the franchise at that time.
That's rather egotistical! Imagine how we would have reacted if the Mets had had their name changed to the "Wilpon Mets"!
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Re: Baseball Passings 2023

Post by MFS62 » Fri Apr 28, 2023 3:57 pm

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 3:27 pm That's rather egotistical! Imagine how we would have reacted if the Mets had had their name changed to the "Wilpon Mets"!
There would have been a fan reaction of Biblical proportions.


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Re: Baseball Passings 2023

Post by G-Fafif » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:32 pm

Cardinal legend Mike Shannon, 83. I enjoyed his announcing and his restaurant.

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Re: Baseball Passings 2023

Post by bmfc1 » Sun Apr 30, 2023 4:51 pm

If you watched the XFL North Division Finals, you learned that DC Defenders Defensive Coordinator Gregg Williams (that guy) is Mike Shannon's son-in-law.
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Re: Baseball Passings 2023

Post by MFS62 » Mon May 01, 2023 3:37 pm

G-Fafif wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:32 pm Cardinal legend Mike Shannon, 83. I enjoyed his announcing and his restaurant.
But I didn't enjoy watching him hit Mets pitching. I saw him on several games of the week against other teams and they got him out with low, inside fastballs. I wrote a letter to the Mets pitching coach at the time to tell him that. It was the only time I've done that in all my time watching baseball. That's how frustrated I was at their inability to get him out in key situations.

And it was also during the time when the Mets were on their seemingly endless search for a third baseman and the Cards put him, an outfielder who had never played the position, at third and he became a Star.

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Re: Baseball Passings 2023

Post by G-Fafif » Tue May 02, 2023 12:39 pm

Cowtipper wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 4:52 pm 5 other major leaguers who have died this year:

Jesus Alou

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/12/spor ... -dead.html
Thanks for the completism. Respects to departed Mets can be found in their own threads, like that for Alou.
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Post by G-Fafif » Sun May 07, 2023 11:03 am

Vida Blue, the personification of baseball in the summer of 1971, age 73.
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Post by Edgy MD » Sun May 07, 2023 1:23 pm

Appeared on four Hall-of-Fame ballots, peaking at 8.9% of the vote.

Along with Bud Black, he was one half of the coolest double-header starting corps when the Royals came at you with Black and Blue.
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Post by nymr83 » Sun May 07, 2023 5:03 pm

Blue is the answer to one of my favorite "trick" trivia questions - who was the last switch hitter to win the American League MVP?
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Sun May 07, 2023 5:23 pm

nymr83 wrote: Sun May 07, 2023 5:03 pm Blue is the answer to one of my favorite "trick" trivia questions - who was the last switch hitter to win the American League MVP?
Mickey Mantle was the only other switch-hitter to win the AL MVP award. It's been done numerous times in the NL.

Here's a Mets related Vida Blue trivia question that stumped this forum a few years ago:

Name the Met that was both Blue's High School baseball teammate and also, quarterback Blue's preferred wide receiver target on their High School football team.
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Post by Frayed Knot » Sat May 13, 2023 1:15 pm

Don Denkinger -- 86

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Post by G-Fafif » Tue May 23, 2023 8:25 am

Legendary St. Louis baseball beat man Rick Hummel, 77. You may have seen him in SNY’s Keith Hernandez documentary.
The Cardinals and all of baseball were saddened to learn today of the passing of Hall of Fame writer and friend Rick Hummel at the age of 77.

Hummel, nicknamed the “Commish”, covered the Cardinals for the St. Louis Post-Dispatch for 50 years before retiring after the 2022 season.

The Busch Stadium Press Box is named after both Rick and Hall of Fame writer Bob Broeg, who also covered the Cardinals for the Post-Dispatch.
Cards skipper Oli Marmol honored Hummel by dressing in a way few baseball managers do anymore, wearing his actual uniform for last night’s game.

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Post by MFS62 » Tue May 23, 2023 12:52 pm

I remember reading Bob Broeg's weekly Cards articles back when each team had their own writer for The Sporting News. Don't remember Hummel's writings, just his name.
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Re: Baseball Passings 2023

Post by Benjamin Grimm » Tue May 23, 2023 1:01 pm

"Broeg on Baseball". Back then, I learned the names of a lot of baseball beat writers from other cities by reading The Sporting News. (God rest its soul.) I still recall Joe Falls from Detroit and Furman Bisher from Atlanta.
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Tue May 23, 2023 1:18 pm

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 1:01 pm "Broeg on Baseball". Back then, I learned the names of a lot of baseball beat writers from other cities by reading The Sporting News. (God rest its soul.) I still recall Joe Falls from Detroit and Furman Bisher from Atlanta.
Same here. Jerome Holtzman, Chicago.
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Re: Baseball Passings 2023

Post by batmagadanleadoff » Tue May 23, 2023 1:27 pm

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 1:18 pm
Benjamin Grimm wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 1:01 pm "Broeg on Baseball". Back then, I learned the names of a lot of baseball beat writers from other cities by reading The Sporting News. (God rest its soul.) I still recall Joe Falls from Detroit and Furman Bisher from Atlanta.
Same here. Jerome Holtzman, Chicago.
Jim Murray, Los Angeles.
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Post by MFS62 » Tue May 23, 2023 1:50 pm

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 1:27 pm
batmagadanleadoff wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 1:18 pm
Benjamin Grimm wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 1:01 pm "Broeg on Baseball". Back then, I learned the names of a lot of baseball beat writers from other cities by reading The Sporting News. (God rest its soul.) I still recall Joe Falls from Detroit and Furman Bisher from Atlanta.
Same here. Jerome Holtzman, Chicago.
Jim Murray, Los Angeles.
Shirley Povich - Washington Senators.

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Post by Benjamin Grimm » Tue May 23, 2023 2:09 pm

And Bill Conlin from Philadelphia. Later exposed as a child molester.
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Post by Frayed Knot » Tue May 23, 2023 4:19 pm

Shirley Povich from D.C.
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Re: Baseball Passings 2023

Post by G-Fafif » Wed May 24, 2023 8:07 am

Stirring tribute to Rick Hummel from St. Louis colleague and friend Bernie Miklasz.
It was 1983, and the Orioles were playing the Cardinals in a normal evening of spring-training baseball. I was the emergency beat writer covering the Orioles, filling in for a Baltimore News American colleague who required knee surgery.

I just turned 24 years old, and wasn’t ready to handle the duty of reporting on a major-league baseball team. I was nervous, clumsy, lacked confidence, and was just hoping to survive an unnerving experience.

Future Hall of Famer Eddie Murray barked at me with intense anger because I sat in the wrong seat on the team bus. Orioles coach Frank Robinson – one of my idols as a kid in Baltimore – refused to give me an interview and was unusually cruel about it. Tim Stoddard, a 6–7 relief pitcher, literally shoved me out of the way when I approached his locker. I was the target of pranks, I missed my girlfriend, I missed peace, and I just wanted to get out of there.

Boy, could I use a friend.

Before the Friday-night exhibition game started at Miami’s Bobby Maduro Stadium, the door opened to the small booth I used as a workstation.

There was a knock on the door, I opened it, and in walked a striking figure. He had a wild head of hair that was more white than gray. He wore a satiny red jacket and slacks. He wore glasses and that warm smile and looked like a fantastically friendly person.

It went something like this:

Hi, I’m Bernie Miklasz. Just helping out the newspaper, covering the O’s.

Nice to meet you. I’m Rick Hummel from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. How’s it going?

I had never met Rick Hummel, but I knew of him.

Of course I knew of him.

If you loved baseball, and ball writing, and your heroes were sportswriters, then Rick Hummel was high on the list of people to admire, even from long-distance range. In 1983, Rick Hummel was well on the way to becoming a baseball-writing god.

I was surprised to see this man standing in the doorway, smiling at me, literally giving me a pat on the back. This doesn’t happen, especially in those days. The veteran baseball writers tended to look down on younger writers, and really didn’t care to shake hands and buddy up. They had this “get outta my way” attitude that could be quite intimidating to an aspiring baseball writer.

This was not Rick Hummel. This was the opposite of Rick Hummel. He was the sportswriting equivalent of The Humane Society, looking after shaky, overwhelmed “kid” sportswriters, metaphorically adopting them and feeding them in post-game meals, and protecting the youngsters from the mean old ball writers.

Hummel didn’t know me. But somehow he was aware of my rookie, emergency call-up status. Of course he would show up at a time when I just needed friendly advice from a highly respected journalist who understood the process of becoming a ball writer.

We talked for 10 minutes or so, and he generously shared ideas on how to deal with truculent players, contentious managers, crabby coaches. He schooled me on the best way to earn respect from those players and managers and coaches.

I couldn’t believe his instant, generous kindness. And it made a huge difference. It really did. After that, I managed to start settling into the job. All because of a short conversation with one of the greatest baseball writers of all time, who took interest in me when he had no reason to do so.

That was the first time I met him.

This was the first time he entered my life.

This was the first time Rick Hummel made a difference in my life, making it better personally and professionally and by teaching me about his craft. A profession that became much of who I am.

I never told him this, and I should have, but I thought I would have embarrassed him or made him uncomfortable.

But on that March of 1983 night when Hummel left that small writing booth in Miami, I put my head down and cried a little.

I know I sound overly dramatic here, but I was in a tough spot and felt alone. I was just so grateful that someone – and a prominent someone – understood what I was going through and wanted to help.

I didn’t ask him to. No one told him to go see the inexperienced, goofy Baltimore kid. Rick Hummel just knew.

I cried a little that night, and I cried again Monday morning – some 40 years later – when I learned of his death at age 77. I cried a little today, when I opened this laptop to start writing my tribute to The Commish.

His passing is a painful loss for everyone who knew him. His passing has left our little world colder. I just know that our world isn’t the same without him in it.

The man was a St. Louis institution. He educated baseball fans young and old on the nuances of baseball strategy for a fuller understanding of the sport. His game stories were exquisite. He could take a crazy, complicated, 10-9 game and explain everything that happened in a concise, tight, highly detailed manner. It was a forensic report – but more entertaining and fun.

I don’t know how he did this through the decades; it still takes me five paragraphs to say hello. Apologies to many wonderful baseball writers, but none were better than The Commish in the art of writing a sharp, insightful gamer. To read him was a delight, a necessity, and a master class.
More great stuff within.

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Re: Baseball Passings 2023

Post by MFS62 » Wed May 24, 2023 8:48 am

Nice story.
Thanks.
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