Mets to Retire 16, 18 (merged with Oh Holy Hell, Retire #7 NOW!!!)

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Mets to Retire 16, 18 (merged with Oh Holy Hell, Retire #7 NOW!!!)

Post by Gwreck » Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:38 am

For Doc and Darryl, next year.

(Gwreck take: this is not needed).
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Re: Mets to Retire 16, 18

Post by batmagadanleadoff » Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:44 am

Well, needed or not, they're a zillion times more deserving than Gary Carter. That's for sure.
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Re: Mets to Retire 16, 18

Post by Benjamin Grimm » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:06 pm

I wouldn't have made this decision, but whatever.
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Re: Mets to Retire 16, 18

Post by Edgy MD » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:09 pm

We asked. You've spoken.
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Re: Mets to Retire 16, 18

Post by stevejrogers » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:23 pm

FWIW, when Segna took to his socials to field options for his Met number, he said #48 was off the table.

I’d imagine it was taken by fans at the time to be Segna being aware and/or being appreciative of deGrom’s legacy with the franchise/MLB more than anything.

But, it hasn’t been issued yet this season 🤔

Certainly a sign that #48 probably is in line for a retirement ceremony down the road.
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Re: Mets to Retire 16, 18

Post by Marshmallowmilkshake » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:26 pm

I'm OK with this! I have to figure Wright's number will go up there, too, at some point.
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Re: Mets to Retire 16, 18

Post by Frayed Knot » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:27 pm

Boooooo!
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Re: Mets to Retire 16, 18

Post by batmagadanleadoff » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:37 pm

Cohen likes to retire numbers!
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Re: Mets to Retire 16, 18

Post by Gwreck » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:39 pm

Retiring so many numbers dilutes the significance.

The Mets’ Hall of Fame is for Doc and Darryl and Koosman.

Retired numbers should be strictly limited to individuals who make the Baseball Hall of Fame as a Met. You could maybe make an exception for a beloved player who played an entire career with the team.
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Re: Mets to Retire 16, 18

Post by kcmets » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:41 pm

Gwreck wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:38 amFor Doc and Darryl, next year.
Didn't see that coming.
I guess I don't care at this point, can't muster a pro or con at
the present time. Doc and Straw, still sad after all these years.
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Re: Mets to Retire 16, 18

Post by Frayed Knot » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:44 pm

kcmets wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:41 pm
Gwreck wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:38 amFor Doc and Darryl, next year.
Didn't see that coming.
I did.
Once they went Piazza to Kooz to Keith it was practically inevitable.
Is HoJo on tap for '25, or do we have to do Sid first?
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Re: Mets to Retire 16, 18

Post by batmagadanleadoff » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:55 pm

Frayed Knot wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:44 pm
kcmets wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:41 pm
Gwreck wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:38 amFor Doc and Darryl, next year.
Didn't see that coming.
I did.
Once they went Piazza to Kooz to Keith it was practically inevitable.
Is HoJo on tap for '25, or do we have to do Sid first?
Cleon and Kranepool. They're a lot older.

Also, if Doc, I guess deGrom, too, right?
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Re: Mets to Retire 16, 18

Post by Benjamin Grimm » Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:02 pm

Gwreck wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:39 pm Retiring so many numbers dilutes the significance.

The Mets’ Hall of Fame is for Doc and Darryl and Koosman.

Retired numbers should be strictly limited to individuals who make the Baseball Hall of Fame as a Met. You could maybe make an exception for a beloved player who played an entire career with the team.
I agree with this. I'd make the exception for David Wright.
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Re: Mets to Retire 16, 18

Post by metirish » Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:49 pm

I kinda liked the fact that the Mets had retired so few numbers, that's changing
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Re: Mets to Retire 16, 18

Post by ashie62 » Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:54 pm

Cleon Jones and Jerry Grote deserve consideration

This would be an easier call if Gooden and Strawberry had kept their shite together off the field
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Oh Holy Hell, Retire #7 NOW!!!

Post by kcmets » Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:00 pm

#lgm #ygb #ymdyf
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Re: Oh Holy Hell, Retire #7 NOW!!!

Post by Bob Alpacadaca » Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:17 pm

Wright, Kranepool, Carter, Beltran, and a Payson sign similar to the Shea sign. Keep 48 in mothballs, at least for now.
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Re: Oh Holy Hell, Retire #7 NOW!!!

Post by Chad ochoseis » Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:19 pm

And 1 for Mookie, while we're at it.

Not that I think any Mets numbers should be retired other than 14, 24, 31, 37, and 41. 24 because Willie Mays is Willie Mays even if he wasn't much of a Met. Maybe 17 because it's about sentimentality and Keith gets extra love because of his time in the booth.

And perhaps 5. Who didn't love Tsuyoshi Shinjo?

And, sure, 42 deserves the MLB-wide retirement.
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Re: Oh Holy Hell, Retire #7 NOW!!!

Post by Frayed Knot » Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:20 pm

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Re: Mets to Retire 16, 18

Post by Lefty Specialist » Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:23 pm

I see no need to do this. Gooden screwed the Mets repeatedly by wasting his talent on a variety of recreational drugs. Strawberry left for more money.

Straw has at least turned his life around. Gooden is still figuring it out, which is not a good look at 58.

Who's next? Al Leiter? I'd rather have the numbers in rotation.
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Re: Oh Holy Hell, Retire #7 NOW!!!

Post by Benjamin Grimm » Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:35 pm

How about Tim Foli, Bruce Boisclair, Junior Ortiz, and Dwight Bernard while we're at it?

I always appreciated the restraint the Mets showed when it came to retiring numbers. That's obviously gone out the window, but I'm sixty years old and beyond caring too much about such things.
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Re: Oh Holy Hell, Retire #7 NOW!!!

Post by whippoorwill » Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:43 pm

We now have two threads about it
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Re: Mets to Retire 16, 18

Post by Johnny Lunchbucket » Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:08 pm

It was fair game after Hernandez but neither Darryl nor Doc had the kind of career that should end in number retirement.
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Re: Oh Holy Hell, Retire #7 NOW!!!

Post by Edgy MD » Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:09 pm

Retire 2!
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Re: Oh Holy Hell, Retire #7 NOW!!!

Post by Benjamin Grimm » Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:40 pm

For Lute Barnes, I assume?

I'd suggest retiring 19 for Brian Ostrosser, but I've never heard of him.
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