Let's talk about Yoshinobu Yamamoto

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Post by bmfc1 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:13 pm

Forget this guy.
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Post by Gwreck » Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:36 pm

Whatever. Hope he’s terrible.
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Post by nymr83 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:39 pm

Hope he sucks bhmc
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Post by Edgy MD » Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:26 am

Hopefully, this drives a spurned Clayton Kershaw into our comforting arms.
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:42 am

Can't wait to read 25 more posts about Adrian Houser. I check in every hour or two. How exciting.
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Post by metirish » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:35 am

Oh well, I suppose I take solace that he isn't signing with the MFY
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Post by metsmarathon » Fri Dec 22, 2023 6:53 am

Oh but Steve cohens billions are going to ruin baseball!
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Post by Lefty Specialist » Fri Dec 22, 2023 7:07 am

OKay, the rest of the dominoes can fall now.

Not getting Yamamoto is a huge blow. I guess we'll be seeing Braves-Dodgers NLCS games for the next decade. Having already lowered expectations for 2024 I'm guessing the Mets will live up to them, adding a few pieces here and there but nothing earth-shaking, while waiting for the farm talent to mature.

They still need pitching desperately. Adrian Houser is not the answer here, but i get the feeling the winter is going to be full of a lot of moves like that.
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Post by ashie62 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 7:12 am

Ugh

Time to get serious with other options

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Post by metirish » Fri Dec 22, 2023 7:28 am

Mets offered same $ and years , not sure about the signing bonus though, what's the point having fuck you money if you don't blow people away ?
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Post by Fman99 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 7:29 am

I'm going to assume this is mostly about being able to go home to Japan more often and with less inconvenience.
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Post by MFS62 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:35 am

MFS62 wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:17 pm I'm predicting it will be announced Thursday
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Post by metsmarathon » Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:16 am

holy shit, though. 12 years for a pitcher. WHAT?! is baseball taking crazy pills? i really hope the dodgers are going to be able to market the fuck outta themselves in japan or these contracts are going to hurt.

i don't think the mets are necessarily going to make a big pivot to other big name players this offseason. and i think that's probably the right play, if they're really building for '25

maybe a jordan montgomery makes sense, but that might be the biggest big name for them to go after this year as they build for next. giolito would be an interesting get.

but, um, seriously, can we throw some of that yamamoto money pete's way. please?
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:23 am

So with Houser in the house, is Tylor Megill now fifth, sixth or eighth on the starting pitching depth chart?

So riveting.
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:28 am

Let's play Yacabonis Roulette all over again. For like the 10th year in a row. We'll get one or two dozen established mediocrity pitchers and cross our fingers hoping that one of them develops into the next Bob Myrick.
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Post by Marshmallowmilkshake » Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:06 am

metsmarathon wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:16 am holy shit, though. 12 years for a pitcher. WHAT?! is baseball taking crazy pills? i really hope the dodgers are going to be able to market the fuck outta themselves in japan or these contracts are going to hurt.

i don't think the mets are necessarily going to make a big pivot to other big name players this offseason. and i think that's probably the right play, if they're really building for '25

maybe a jordan montgomery makes sense, but that might be the biggest big name for them to go after this year as they build for next. giolito would be an interesting get.

but, um, seriously, can we throw some of that yamamoto money pete's way. please?
Good call on spending on Pete!

I know it's 12 years, and if he gets hurt or sucks, it's gonna be 12 years. But I wonder if they are almost expecting him to take the opt-out at five years.
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Post by TransMonk » Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:28 am

Too much time and dough for a guy that has never thrown a MLB pitch. I'm fine with the Dodgers taking that risk instead of us.
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Post by A Boy Named Seo » Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:31 am

metsmarathon wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:16 am holy shit, though. 12 years for a pitcher. WHAT?! is baseball taking crazy pills? i really hope the dodgers are going to be able to market the fuck outta themselves in japan or these contracts are going to hurt.

i don't think the mets are necessarily going to make a big pivot to other big name players this offseason. and i think that's probably the right play, if they're really building for '25

maybe a jordan montgomery makes sense, but that might be the biggest big name for them to go after this year as they build for next. giolito would be an interesting get.

but, um, seriously, can we throw some of that yamamoto money pete's way. please?
12 years is wild, but a 25-year old stud free agent is also kinda unknown territory. Dodgers hoping they get 7 or 8 (?) great years I'm sure, but those extra years helped suppress the AAV from $40MM per season if it were, say, 8 years to $26MM over 12. That may even save them a ton in tax money depending on how these next 10 years go for them.

Roki Sasaki is just turned 22 and damn near threw back-to-back perfect games last year. How many years is that dude gonna get if he's posted in '24?
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Post by Edgy MD » Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:42 am

metsmarathon wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:16 am i really hope the dodgers are going to be able to market the fuck outta themselves in japan or these contracts are going to hurt.
I'm more hoping that they'll fuck themselves out of the market.
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Post by metirish » Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:48 am

https://nypost.com/2023/12/22/sports/st ... o-pursuit/

Left it all on the field, some interesting tidbits in here
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Post by Lefty Specialist » Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:15 pm

Can't blame Uncle Steve for lack of effort. This ain't the Wilpons. Still, it hurts.

That deferral of Ohtani money made this possible. And boy, 12 years for a pitcher is really rolling the dice, no matter how good he is. Let's hope he morphs into late-era Hideki Irabu.
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Post by Centerfield » Fri Dec 22, 2023 1:38 pm

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:03 pm Goddamn Shohei is thicc
Right?

No fucking way the guy on the right throws harder.

Anyway. I guess it's not terrible to miss out on 12 years to a little guy that throws hard. History tells us they don't hold up. But will probably be awesome for 4-5 years if he's everything he's cracked up to be.
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Post by A Boy Named Seo » Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:54 pm

Centerfield wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 1:38 pm
A Boy Named Seo wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:03 pm Goddamn Shohei is thicc
Right?

No fucking way the guy on the right throws harder.

Anyway. I guess it's not terrible to miss out on 12 years to a little guy that throws hard. History tells us they don't hold up. But will probably be awesome for 4-5 years if he's everything he's cracked up to be.
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Post by ashie62 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:34 pm

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Post by MFS62 » Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:29 pm

A fan on another site wrote this today:
Only nitpick is that he shows his pitches to the CF camera out of the windup. You can call every splitter. Trash cans will be banging if they don’t fix that.
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