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Re: Immaculate Grid

Post by Frayed Knot » Tue Feb 20, 2024 4:50 pm

Fman99 wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:19 am LAD/1RD - Straw 3
Now y'see I was assuming that the category meant a 1st Round pick Of that team, as opposed to just someone who played
with them after being a 1st round pick of someone else. I'll have to remember that.


I got a 0.05% score by selecting John-Ford Griffin as my Yanx 1st round pick (2001); don't think I've ever seen a score that low.
I remember someone, probably Bill Madden, going off on how that was a much superior pick to the Mets choice of Aaron Heilman
five slots earlier, so I remembered the name. He never played an ML game for the Yanx and his career went on to consist of a
combined 23 ABs for the Blue Jays in 2005 & 2007

But then the Rangers line blew up any possible low score as I went chalk on Prince Fielder (Tex/Mil) and Josh Hamilton (1st Round).
Both were the overall top pick in those categories at 45% & 22%
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Re: Immaculate Grid

Post by Benjamin Grimm » Thu Feb 22, 2024 12:56 pm

I only got eight out of nine today, but I'm pretty sure I got gypped. For Played in Negro Leagues/Played Outfield Min. 1 Game, I chose Hank Aaron. I can't see why that would have been rejected.
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Post by Chad ochoseis » Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:02 pm

They only count Negro Leagues records up to 1948. I think that's an overall MLB rule, not an Immaculate Grid decision. I guess the logic is that after 1948, the best African American players were going into the major leagues? Not exactly true, but it's the only rationale I can think of.

Aaron played shortstop for the Indianapolis Clowns in 1951. I fell into the same trap a couple of weeks ago.
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Post by Fman99 » Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:59 am

Ah the Saturday layup puzzle.

⚾️ Immaculate Grid 328 9/9:
Rarity: 57
IMMACULATE!
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1TEAM/ASG - Ernie Banks 1
300AVG/ASG - Wade Boggs 6
40WAR/ASG - Ted Williams 2
1TEAM/C - Roy Campanella 4
300AVG/C - Mickey Cochrane 5
40WAR/C - Mike Piazza 14
1TEAM/SS - Pee Wee Reese 2
300AVG/SS - Nomar Garciaparra 14
40WAR/SS - Ozzie Smith 8
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Post by Frayed Knot » Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:56 am

I was going for an all-Mets grid, which I had through the top two rows.

Alonso - Mays - Seaver
Ron Hodges - Piazza - Delgado
Then I had to fill out the bottom row with scrubs like: Oneil Cruz - Bonus (frickin' auto-correct) Honus Wagner - Alex Rodriguez

Piazza (32%) and ARod (33%) wrecked any chance at a good rarity score.
Alonso, Mays, Seaver, Hodges, Delgado, and Cruz were all 2% or under.
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Post by Johnny Lunchbucket » Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:39 am

I also tried all-Mets but was shocked to learn Olerud was not a career .300 hitter (.295, looked it up) and I wasted Piazza on the 40-war instead of .300 hitting catchers list, then panicked and crashed with Pudge Rodriguez.

The whole .300 career list is hard for Mets. I had to go with Chipper Jones for a .300 shortstop.
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Post by Frayed Knot » Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:04 am

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:39 am I had to go with Chipper Jones for a .300 shortstop.
I kept my streak alive of never guessing Derek Jeter.
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Post by cal sharpie » Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:02 pm

Have never picked Jeter ever either. Do have a lifelong Yankee here. Rarity of 13

Allstar/1 team Mark Prior 0.3
Catcher/1team Bill Dickey 2
SS/1 team Pee Wee Reese 2
Allstar/300 avg Enos Slaughter 0.1
Catcher/300 avg Mickey Cochrane 4
SS/300 avg Nap Lajoie 1
Allstar/40 war John Olerud 0.1
Catcher/40 war Craig Biggio 4
SS/40 war Julio Franco 0.1
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Post by Fman99 » Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:21 am

⚾️ Immaculate Grid 333 9/9:
Rarity: 117
IMMACULATE!
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LAD/NEG - Don Newcombe 9
CLE/NEG - Larry Doby 49
NONUS/NEG - Martin Dihigo 22
LAD/PIT - Casey Stengel .3
CLE/PIT - Carlos Santana 28
NONUS/PIT - Francisco Liriano 2
LAD/ASG - Steve Garvey 6
CLE/ASG - Vic Wertz .2
NONUS/ASG - Orlando Cepeda .6
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Post by Frayed Knot » Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:21 pm

A decent showing today with 39 rarity score

PHI/MIL - John Vukovich
PHI/BOS - Curt Schilling
PHI .300+ - BA Len Dykstra
MIL/SDP - Rollie Fingers
BOS/SDP - Craig Kimbrel
SDP .300+ BA - John Kruk
MIL RF - Ben Ogilvie
BOS RF - Dwight Evans
.300+ BA/RF - Starling Marte

Schilling (11%) for PHI/BOS was the only answer in double digits.
Surprising (to me anyway) that Jonathan Papelbon was the most common answer and almost double that pct.
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Post by Frayed Knot » Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:54 pm

I think today is the first time I remembered to play I.G. since my previous post, but I'm still counting
it as two Immacualtes in a row, hi-lighted by an all b&w photo trio in the right hand column.

Jim Kaat - Wilson Ramos - Walter Johnson
Hoyt Wilhelm - Ken Singleton - Rogers Hornsby
Octavio Dotel* - Sean Doolittle** - Jimmie Foxx


* Pure guess to complete the grid
** 22 of the 50 rarity points although I c/should have known Gil Gonzalez, Dan Haren or others
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Post by Fman99 » Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:13 am

⚾️ Immaculate Grid 339 9/9:
Rarity: 89
IMMACULATE!
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Will post my answers later my plane is taxiing for departure
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Post by Fman99 » Fri Mar 08, 2024 10:19 am

Half my score on stupid CC Sabathia. There were only four other choices and I knew 1-2 of them

⚾️ Immaculate Grid 341 9/9:
Rarity: 123
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CHC/CLE - Rich Hill 3
3000K/CLE - CC Sabathia 62
300AVG/CLE - Lou Boudreau 1
NYM/CHC - Shawon Dunston 2
NYM/3000K - Verlander 13
NYM/300AVG - Bernard Gilkey .6
TEX/CHC - Fergie Jenkins 8
TEX/3000K - Scherzer 21
TEX/300AVG - Josh Hamilton 12
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Post by Frayed Knot » Fri Mar 08, 2024 4:38 pm

Got a 61

Ralph Kiner (0.7%) - Gaylord Perry (15) - Nap Lajoie (4)
Lance Johnson (1) - Pedro Martinez (15) - Wally Backman (1)
Rafael Palmero (9) - Fergie Jenkins (8) - Ivan Rodriguez (6)

Glad I remembered Ralph cuz I don't know that I was coming up with anyone else for CHC/CLE
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Fri Mar 08, 2024 5:20 pm

Frayed Knot wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 4:38 pm

Glad I remembered Ralph cuz I don't know that I was coming up with anyone else for CHC/CLE
Dennis Eckersley, Andre Thornton, Jose Cardenal, Bob L. Miller, Bobby Bonds.....
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Post by Frayed Knot » Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:06 pm

I didn't say there weren't any others, only that I likely wouldn't have come up with any.
I wouldn't have thought of a single one of those names and, even if I had, I wouldn't have known that any of them played for both CHC & CLE
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:20 pm

Frayed Knot wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:06 pm I didn't say there weren't any others, only that I likely wouldn't have come up with any.

I know.

I was only showing off.
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Post by Benjamin Grimm » Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:40 pm

I immediately thought of Rick Sutcliffe.
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Post by Frayed Knot » Fri Mar 08, 2024 9:09 pm

Had I thought of Rick Sutcliffe I would have instantly recognized him as being a CHC/CLE seeing how his trade to Chicago's north side
in 1984 and his subsequent rebound to a top pitcher (he was in the midst of a poor year* in CLE due to some dental problems IIRC)
was probably the biggest factor that kept the Mets from winning the NL East that year.

* Sutcliffe's 1984: 4-5 w/a 5.15 ERA and 1.66 WHIP in 15 starts for the Indians prior to the June 13th trade;
20 starts for the Cubs going 16-1 w/a 2.69 ERA and 1.08 WHIP after arriving in Chicago. He won the NL CY


But, alas, Sutcliffe's name never popped into my head and likely wouldn't have unless I pondered over the question for many hours,
if not weeks, which I had no intention of doing.


btw, Sutcliffe was dealt, with George Frazier, for Joe Carter (I have zero recollection of him starting his ML career as a Cub), Mel Hall,
and Don Schultze, so all of those guys would work as CHC/CLE answers as well


second btw: for all the issues that those mid-80s Mets managed to create on their own, they also had an odd habit of running up
against pitchers in the midst either of a career year or at least a brilliant late season/playoff run: Sutcliffe '84, John Tudor 1985,
Mike Scott 1986, Orel Hershiser 1988
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Post by Benjamin Grimm » Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:36 am

I'm always glad to get a Rarity Score under 100. Today I got a 46, much above my best of 5, but pretty darn good.

MIN/OAK: Cesar Tovar 0.9%
MIN/OF: Tony Oliva 2%
MIN/200 wins: Steve Carlton 4%
TEX/OAK: Dave Stewart 2%
TEX/OF: Oddibe McDowell 2%
TEX/200 wins: Max Scherzer 20%
CLE/OAK: Tris Speaker 1%
CLE/OF: Kenny Lofton 12%
CLE/200 wins: Early Wynn 2%
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Re: Immaculate Grid

Post by Fman99 » Tue Mar 12, 2024 3:46 pm

⚾️ Immaculate Grid 345 9/9:
Rarity: 55
IMMACULATE!
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Also generally happy with a two digit rarity score.

OAK/MIN - Rich Hill 3
MIN/OF - Michael Cuddyer 2
MIN/200W - Jerry Koosman 1
OAK/TEX - Jose Canseco 28
TEX/OF - Gary Matthews Jr 2
TEX/200W - Fergie Jenkins 8
CLE/OAK - Bartolo Colon 6
CLE/OF - Vic Wertz .3
CLE/200W - Gaylord Perry 6
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Post by Benjamin Grimm » Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:30 am

I scored a 39 today, which might be my second-lowest ever. Bonus: Eight of the nine players were Mets.

NYM/TEX: Lee Mazzilli 2%
NYM/SS: Roy McMillan 0.3%
NYM/30HR: Ike Davis 1%
2B/TEX: Lenny Randle 1%
2B/SS: Jose Reyes 1%
2B/30HR: Jeff Kent 17%
30SB/TEX: Oddibe McDowell 9%
30SB/SS: Francisco Lindor 3%
30SB/30HR: Howard Johnson 4%
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Post by Frayed Knot » Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:58 pm

Very similar (35) including some guesses in common

NYM/TEX: Gary Mathews Jr. (0.5%) -- NYM/SS: Kevin Mitchell (0.5%) -- NYM/30HR: Todd Hundley (3%)
2B/TEX: Michael Young (12%) -- 2B/SS: Kaz Matsui (1%) -- 2B/30HR: Davey Johnson (4%)
TEX/30SB: Oddibe McDowell (7%) -- SS/30SB: Maury Wills (3%) -- 30SB/30HR: Howard Johnson (3%)


Odd that some of the pcts are different for the same players but it probably has something to do with when
you post your grid (mine was around 12:30 - 1:00) as the pcts will change as new answers come in.
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Post by Chad ochoseis » Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:27 pm

We do all seem to come up with a lot of the same obscure guys. Also, Rougned Odor is a very easy name to remember.

NYM/TEX: Jon Matlack (2%) -- NYM/SS: Roy McMillan (0.4%) -- NYM/30HR: Mike Cameron (0.5%)
2B/TEX: Rougned Odor (14%) -- 2B/SS: Kaz Matsui (1%) -- 2B/30HR: Davey Johnson (4%)
TEX/30SB: Ian Kinsler (14%) -- SS/30SB: Rafael Furcal (3%) -- 30SB/30HR: Howard Johnson (3%)

Total 42
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Re: Immaculate Grid

Post by Johnny Lunchbucket » Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:14 pm

32
Tom Grieve-Argenis Reyes-Granderson
Curtis Wilkerson-Ted Martinez- Jeff Kent
Oddibe McDowell- Jose Reyes- Strawberry
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