Kodai Senga "Arm Fatigue"

[The Hot Corner]

Seasons change, the names change, but it the end it's the same old story for the Mets.

[Edgy MD]

It ain't unique to the Mets.

The Dodgers had an offseason to die for, and still, they've already got five starting pitchers out for extended periods.

[metirish]

[whippoorwill]

There’s a lot of optimists in those comments

[Lefty Specialist]

This sounds like those optimistic deGrom tweets we'd always get just before the hammer fell.

[ashie62]

Verlander started late

[The Hot Corner]

It ain't unique to the Mets.

The Dodgers had an offseason to die for, and still, they've already got five starting pitchers out for extended periods.

2021 - DeGrom gets off to a historically great season through 15 starts, only to be shut down for the season following July 7th start. Noah Syndergaard, recovering from Tommy John surgery misses the season (pitching 2 meaningless innings at the end of the season).
2022 - Jacob DeGrom makes his season debut on August 2nd. Max Scherzer misses 6 weeks early in the season.
2023 - Edwin Diaz misses the season due to knee injury suffered in the WBC. Justin Verlander misses the first month of the season.
2024 - Kodai Senga experiences arm fatigue and is expected to miss the first month of the season (at best).

I know that other teams lose key, front line pitchers as well. Some of them may do so on a regular basis, but I simply don't notice due to my fixation on the Mets. The Mets, however, definitely appear to lose front line pitchers on a year in year out basis.

[Lefty Specialist]

Problem is, the Mets had a #1 in Senga, a #3 in Quintana, and a bunch of #5's. They're not going to weather this well.

[Edgy MD]

I don't think of these ranks as imprinted on these guys as such. The terms only really are relevant relative to one another. If Mark Clark is the top guy on your staff, he's a #1. If he gets hurt, Pete Harnish is a #1.

Similarly, if Dwight Gooden is your best pitcher, then David Cone is your #2, even if he's outpitching 95% or more of everybody else.

We can guess what we're going to get from Quintana, but right now it's unknowable. I certainly don't think that everybody the Mets throw besides Quintana will aggregate to a profile equivalent to the bottom 20% of starters in the league, which is seemingly what calling everybody else a #5 suggests.

[G-Fafif]

Kodai Senga transferred to the 60-day IL to accommodate the addition of callup Tyler Jay to the big club (with Dedniel Nuñez optioned to Syracuse). Won’t be eligible for activation until May 27

[Benjamin Grimm]

But he can do minor league rehab before that, correct?

[MFS62]

Kodai Senga transferred to the 60-day IL to accommodate the addition of callup Tyler Jay to the big club

Who?
That name isn't in Baseball-reference.
Oh, this guy:
https://metsmerizedonline.com/mets-call ... tyler-jay/
Later

[stevejrogers]

I don't think of these ranks as imprinted on these guys as such. The terms only really are relevant relative to one another. If Mark Clark is the top guy on your staff, he's a #1. If he gets hurt, Pete Harnish is a #1.

Similarly, if Dwight Gooden is your best pitcher, then David Cone is your #2, even if he's outpitching 95% or more of everybody else.

We can guess what we're going to get from Quintana, but right now it's unknowable. I certainly don't think that everybody the Mets throw besides Quintana will aggregate to a profile equivalent to the bottom 20% of starters in the league, which is seemingly what calling everybody else a #5 suggests.

Relevant in terms of cash earned, as well as accomplishments and accolades.

[Edgy MD]

I don't know. Your best starting pitcher is your #1 pitcher, even if he's a rookie, earning a rookie's salary, with no accolades, perhaps named deGrom.

OE: I'm not sure what you actually mean, as the verb and the subject in your post are implied, so I apologize if I'm misreading.

[Frayed Knot]

I remember some years ago article attempting to define what made a #1 pitcher, a #2, etc. It was back in the '80s when the Mets
had a top staff and the idea was see which slot each starter on a team best fit and then add those numbers up to determine whose
staff was tops, lowest number wins.
There's always going to be a decent amount of subjectivity to that kind of thing but it was an OK way of ranking entire staffs
assuming that the initial analysis was correct enough.

[nymr83]

Kodai Senga transferred to the 60-day IL to accommodate the addition of callup Tyler Jay to the big club (with Dedniel Nuñez optioned to Syracuse). Won’t be eligible for activation until May 27

See you in 2025!

[ashie62]

Hoping for the best for Kodai and the Mets

Maybe he'll be back for a playoff push

LGM

[Cowtipper]

"Kodai Senga (shoulder) to face hitters next week

Kodai Senga (shoulder) is scheduled to face hitters on Monday in a live batting practice session.
Advice: Senga remains unlikely to make his season debut until late May, at the earliest, but this latest development represents a massive step forward in his rehabilitation process from a shoulder injury that sent him to the injured list back in spring training."

--Rotoworld via Yahoo

[metirish]

Um, what's going on here ?

[MFS62]

Um, what's going on here ?

I read that he hasn't recaptured his control due to inconsistent mechanics. He needs time to find his groove.
Later

[metirish]

Puma reports that Senga is dealing with triceps tightness, didn't throw a bullpen yesterday, Mets are hopeful that will happen by the end of the week

[ashie62]

All star break baby

[metirish]

Shut down for 3-5 days due to triceps inflammation, as confirmed with an MRI , got a cortisone shot , DiComo

[G-Fafif]

[metirish]

Greg, how did you embed that?