The Trevor Bauer is a Douchebag Thread

[Edgy MD]

One guy on this forum (read this thread) argued for punishment because of how badly his accuser was beat up.

To whom and what, specifically, do you refer?

[batmagadanleadoff]

On consent, I think it's critically important we all keep in mind that a woman can consent and change her mind. A woman can consent multiple times and still change her mind. Especially if her face is being bashed in after giving consent.

So after she had her head and face roughed up and beaten, after all of that ... then she withdrew her consent? Is that what you're saying?

Anyways, I don't think she ever withdrew her consent. She consented all the way and then a few weeks later, went into hell hath no fury mode after Bauer unilaterally ended their relationship.

She consented because after most of the "damage" was done, she remained in Bauer's apartment for about six hours even though, by her own account, she could have easily left hours earlier.

And then after that, she agreed to go on a second date with Bauer. And then her own text messages evincing her willingness and consent to have rough sex.

And if law enforcement believed that she withdrew her consent properly, Bauer would've been indicted.

Anyways again, I agree with you that if she didn't consent, Bauer should've been --or should be-- criminally charged. There's no argument there. But she consented.

Bauer's getting punished enough. MLB has a stricter code of conduct than regular society. Bauer's MLB career is probably over.

[A Boy Named Seo]

On consent, I think it's critically important we all keep in mind that a woman can consent and change her mind. A woman can consent multiple times and still change her mind. Especially if her face is being bashed in after giving consent.

So after she had her head and face roughed up and beaten, after all of that ... then she withdrew her consent? Is that what you're saying?

Anyways, I don't think she ever withdrew her consent.

No, but I am saying that if a women consented to rough sex and it was way more dangerous and painful than she'd agreed to or expected, then hell yes, she has every right to withdraw her consent, and it doesn't matter fuck all at that point from what she agreed to the day before via text. But you're right, she didn't withdraw her consent. From what she alleged (link) , she couldn't even withdraw her consent as she was choked unconscious both times they got together, the first time waking up to being penetrated and the second time being punched in the head. You can't consent to shit when you're unconscious.

Whether we agree on that point or not, hopefully you can acknowledge sexual consent is more than just clicking "I agree" on an iTunes EULA and that Trevor Bauer is still a complete and total douchebag.

[batmagadanleadoff]

...if a women consented to rough sex and it was way more dangerous and painful than she'd agreed to or expected, then hell yes, she has every right to withdraw her consent, and it doesn't matter fuck all at that point from what she agreed to the day before via text.

In this example, she wouldn't have to withdraw her consent because she likely never consented in the first place. She can't withdraw consent after the fact, though, or after the conduct in question occurred.

Whether we agree on that point or not, hopefully you can acknowledge sexual consent is more than just clicking "I agree" on an iTunes EULA and that Trevor Bauer is still a complete and total douchebag.

Yeah ... determining consent can be very complex (but not here) and yes, Bauer is a major douchebag even though I have no idea what an iTunes EULA is.

[MFS62]

Sny reporting he has been released by LA.
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[Lefty Specialist]

Sny reporting he has been released by LA.
Later

Wonder what team in the KBO will take a flyer on him.

[The Hot Corner]

the Dodgers released him, which was of course the proper decision. Unfortunately, Trevor "I assault women" Bauer will still get payed $22.5 mil. for 2023. If another team decides to sign the low life to a league minimum deal, the Dodger save a whopping $750K. Either way, the low life still makes $22.5 Mil. this year.

[nymr83]

the Dodgers released him, which was of course the proper decision. Unfortunately, Trevor "I assault women" Bauer will still get payed $22.5 mil. for 2023. If another team decides to sign the low life to a league minimum deal, the Dodger save a whopping $750K. Either way, the low life still makes $22.5 Mil. this year.

Oh no, he will in fact make 26.5 million this year, because his agent must have realized that there is no offset if he gets that 4 million from a Japanese baseball team. Sayonora!

[Edgy MD]

Trevor Bauer makes his debut in the Japanese minors. The only one stateside who seems to be exicited seems to be his agent.

[nymr83]

Trevor Bauer makes his debut in the Japanese minors. The only one stateside who seems to be excited seems to be his agent.

Makes sense. She is probably the ONLY person in the country who really stands to profit from him having continued success.

As far as I can tell, she doesn't have any other major clients.

[Edgy MD]

But she says that "you" love to see it, so clearly you must. Unless she's addressing me, and I somehow love it without knowing.

[batmagadanleadoff]

As far as I can tell, she doesn't have any other major clients.

In addition to Bauer, Luba represents several big-time names like Aroldis Chapman, Alejandro Kirk, and Tampa Bay Rays pitching phenom Shane McClanahan. Before branching out on her own, Luba worked for the MLBPA.

[nymr83]

But she says that "you" love to see it, so clearly you must. Unless she's addressing me, and I somehow love it without knowing.

maybe she addresses her bank account directly? can't think of who else the "you" would be.

[nymr83]

As far as I can tell, she doesn't have any other major clients.

In addition to Bauer, Luba represents several big-time names like Aroldis Chapman, Alejandro Kirk, and Tampa Bay Rays pitching phenom Shane McClanahan. Before branching out on her own, Luba worked for the MLBPA.

interesting. Chapman was accused of domestic violence too. Is she the go-to friendly face for pitchers who need a female agent to claim they don't hurt women?

[batmagadanleadoff]

As far as I can tell, she doesn't have any other major clients.

In addition to Bauer, Luba represents several big-time names like Aroldis Chapman, Alejandro Kirk, and Tampa Bay Rays pitching phenom Shane McClanahan. Before branching out on her own, Luba worked for the MLBPA.

interesting. Chapman was accused of domestic violence too. Is she the go-to friendly face for pitchers who need a female agent to claim they don't hurt women?

lol

[Edgy MD]

I'm pretty sure Bauer was her first client. She was with him before the assault case broke, but not before he put together an unappealing personal track record.

Yasuil Puig is also on her roster, so her interest may be less in corralling folks with violence-against-women problems, so much as folks with general PR problems, who more established firms might shy away from.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Whenever this topic pops to the top of the list, I find myself wondering what a "douchebag thread" is.

[kcmets]

That, and why are people so interested to talk about a non-and-never-
gonna-be-a-Met-thank-god douchebag for seven pages.

[batmagadanleadoff]

That, and why are people so interested to talk about a non-and-never-
gonna-be-a-Met-thank-god douchebag for seven pages.

Oh, please! Donald Trump's never gonna be a Met either and you yourself are probably personally responsible for dozens of thread pages worth of posts about Trump.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Woman who accused Trevor Bauer of sexual assault charged with fraud

https://theathletic.com/5421587/2024/04 ... ud-charge/

As much as I was and still am repulsed by Bauer's S/M inclinations, I defended him vehemently from the very beginning of his scandals. It was immediately obvious to me that the accusations leveled against him were as flimsy as could be and so illogical, so factually inconsistent, that in the end, they had to collapse like a house of cards. It was plain as day that Bauer's accusers were even bigger scumbags than he was. I remember one particular ninny getting so hysterically worked up over those bullshit charges that he made up nonsense about the MLB rules stating that Bauer wouldn't even be allowed to defend himself by claiming consensual contact and sex. Whatever. Also, nobody ever bothered to note that the women on the receiving end of Bauer's consensual conduct (the "M" side of S/M) are just as fucked up, if not more so, than Bauer.

[MFS62]

Whenever this topic pops to the top of the list, I find myself wondering what a "douchebag thread" is.

I don't know either, but it seems we get wrapped up in it and get blinded by the light.
Well, part of it.
Later

[nymr83]

That, and why are people so interested to talk about a non-and-never-
gonna-be-a-Met-thank-god douchebag for seven pages.

Oh, please! Donald Trump's never gonna be a Met either and you yourself are probably personally responsible for dozens of thread pages worth of posts about Trump.

great, so lets agree that is a sports forum and just ban politics all around. we'd all end up happier for it.

welcome back by the way!

[batmagadanleadoff]

That, and why are people so interested to talk about a non-and-never-
gonna-be-a-Met-thank-god douchebag for seven pages.

Oh, please! Donald Trump's never gonna be a Met either and you yourself are probably personally responsible for dozens of thread pages worth of posts about Trump.

great, so lets agree that is a sports forum and just ban politics all around. we'd all end up happier for it.

welcome back by the way!

Those posts are a year old. Exactly one year old. To the date. He dug up year old posts to start a brouhaha. The rest of it is in the RLF.

[kcmets]

Oh, please! Donald Trump's never gonna be a Met either and you yourself are probably personally responsible for dozens of thread pages worth of posts about Trump.

great, so lets agree that is a sports forum and just ban politics all around. we'd all end up happier for it.

welcome back by the way!

Those posts are a year old. Exactly one year old. To the date. He dug up year old posts to start a brouhaha. The rest of it is in the RLF.

You dug up the post. You.

If you're gonna purposefully sling mud, at least be factual.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Nobody brought up an old post from what i can see. Old posts resurfaced when the news about the victim was added is all.