The Pete Alonso Conundrum
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Re: Going, going gone. Not a Pete Alonso HR thread. Instead, a Pete Alonso thread.
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Re: The Pete Alonso Conundrum
If the Mets are still bumping along below .500 at the end of July, I'd expect Pete and a bunch of others will be gone. Remember Cohen is OK with paying off contracts to get something better back in the deal, so I'd expect Alonso will fetch more than he otherwise might have.
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Re: The Pete Alonso Conundrum
Well, unlike Scherzer and Verlander last year, by July 31 Pete won't have that much guaranteed money left on his contract.
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The only thing that bedaffles me is why Alonso is still with this team. He's just taking up space. Time to start auditioning for the future now, not August 1. He's nearing his total collapse and the Mets might as well ditch him while he still has value.
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I'm not confused by it.
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Pete.is trying his best
The results are something else
The results are something else
Diabetic Squirrel
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I'm confused why it would bedaffle someone.
But here we are, and too early in the season for me.
But here we are, and too early in the season for me.
#lgm #ygb #ymdyf
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All I can say is, if I ran the team, we'd be 162-0 right now.
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Do you know how asinine the sounds?
I mean wtf?
All hyperbole
Diabetic Squirrel
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Pete is not in a total collapse
The part about auditioning is hard to make sense of as written
The whole paragraph comes off as gibberish with little to no context
Your objective is to troll the Mets
The part about auditioning is hard to make sense of as written
The whole paragraph comes off as gibberish with little to no context
Your objective is to troll the Mets
Diabetic Squirrel
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No, I love the Mets. But they are not due our fealty just cuz we're fans. They are getting paid a lot of money to perform, and when they don't perform, they are justifiably ridiculed.
I don't understand what is confusing about starting 2025 auditions now. If the team is building for 2025, they should be auditioning players for 2025—and seeing what works—now, not later in the season.
I've said elsewhere that the Nimmo-Alonso-McNeil-Diaz core, with later additions of Lindor and Marte (and Ottavino, too, come to think of it), has been together for a long time, yet they're barely a .500 team. That is unacceptable and clearly not working as it is built. Time to tear down and start over.
And yes, Alonso is in a collapse. Most pure power guys his size fall apart at some point and he's at that point I think.
I want the Mets to succeed more than anybody, but I'm not convinced the Mets want the Mets to succeed.
I don't understand what is confusing about starting 2025 auditions now. If the team is building for 2025, they should be auditioning players for 2025—and seeing what works—now, not later in the season.
I've said elsewhere that the Nimmo-Alonso-McNeil-Diaz core, with later additions of Lindor and Marte (and Ottavino, too, come to think of it), has been together for a long time, yet they're barely a .500 team. That is unacceptable and clearly not working as it is built. Time to tear down and start over.
And yes, Alonso is in a collapse. Most pure power guys his size fall apart at some point and he's at that point I think.
I want the Mets to succeed more than anybody, but I'm not convinced the Mets want the Mets to succeed.
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What constitutes an audition
And what would you do???
And what would you do???
Diabetic Squirrel
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If I ran the team, they'd be 185-0, have dozens of hit records from this year alone, and be dressed like The Baseball Furies. The pitchers would bat, the uniform elements would be sewn on, and the manager would be a mute German guy named Ernst.
Also, no "Piano Man." I figure fans would be OK with me banning that, because we'd be 185-0, and they'd also be crazy about Ernst.
Also, no "Piano Man." I figure fans would be OK with me banning that, because we'd be 185-0, and they'd also be crazy about Ernst.
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Players since 1980, 240+ lb., 150+ HR, .260 or worse BA (not exhaustive):
G. Stanton: Declined markedly at 32.
A Dunn: At 31.
R Howard: At 32.
C. Davis: At 30.
G. Sanchez: At 27.
M. Sano: At 27.
P. Alvarez: At 30.
J. Bell: At 30.
L. Duda: At 32.
C. Carter: At 30.
J. Gallo: Outside of power, never really got good enough offensively to have been capable of declining markedly.
To answer your question about trading people, yes, I'm all for it if that means building a core that will actually win in the future, more than one year in a row at a time. But they've been chasing that ghost since I've been following the Mets so maybe that will never happen.
G. Stanton: Declined markedly at 32.
A Dunn: At 31.
R Howard: At 32.
C. Davis: At 30.
G. Sanchez: At 27.
M. Sano: At 27.
P. Alvarez: At 30.
J. Bell: At 30.
L. Duda: At 32.
C. Carter: At 30.
J. Gallo: Outside of power, never really got good enough offensively to have been capable of declining markedly.
To answer your question about trading people, yes, I'm all for it if that means building a core that will actually win in the future, more than one year in a row at a time. But they've been chasing that ghost since I've been following the Mets so maybe that will never happen.
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Cowtipper wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2024 5:11 pm Players since 1980, 240+ lb., 150+ HR, .260 or worse BA (not exhaustive):
G. Stanton: Declined markedly at 32.
A Dunn: At 31.
R Howard: At 32.
C. Davis: At 30.
G. Sanchez: At 27.
M. Sano: At 27.
P. Alvarez: At 30.
J. Bell: At 30.
L. Duda: At 32.
C. Carter: At 30.
J. Gallo: Outside of power, never really got good enough offensively to have been capable of declining markedly.
To answer your question about trading people, yes, I'm all for it if that means building a core that will actually win in the future.
You are cherry picking your responses
Diabetic Squirrel
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I'm showing there is considerable precedent for what I've said about Alonso and that it doesn't just happen now and then.ashie62 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2024 5:12 pmCowtipper wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2024 5:11 pm Players since 1980, 240+ lb., 150+ HR, .260 or worse BA (not exhaustive):
G. Stanton: Declined markedly at 32.
A Dunn: At 31.
R Howard: At 32.
C. Davis: At 30.
G. Sanchez: At 27.
M. Sano: At 27.
P. Alvarez: At 30.
J. Bell: At 30.
L. Duda: At 32.
C. Carter: At 30.
J. Gallo: Outside of power, never really got good enough offensively to have been capable of declining markedly.
To answer your question about trading people, yes, I'm all for it if that means building a core that will actually win in the future.
You are cherry picking your responses
Feel free to come up with your own evidence-based rebuttals instead of just issuing five-word critiques of mine.
Re: The Pete Alonso Conundrum
An audition is when you give someone a tryout at something.
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