Biden Dropping Out

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Re: Biden Dropping Out

Post by Lefty Specialist » Mon Jul 22, 2024 6:56 pm

That Post piece is a hit job. No confirmed sources, just innuendo from unnamed 'operatives'. This is just made-up bullshit.

There is NO effort to push Mark Kelly for the top job. Probably a smear to muddy him up for the #2 job. She'll have the committed delegates needed in a day or two, and Mark Kelly already endorsed HER. This was probably written by a Trump 'operative' on Rupert's payroll.

She just gave a speech at the campaign headquarters that should send chills down Drumpf's spine. She's going to take it to him in ways Biden was incapable of.
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Re: Biden Dropping Out

Post by Edgy MD » Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:17 pm

The New York Post has really been without-shame in-the-bag of late.

They don't deserve the link.
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Re: Biden Dropping Out

Post by Fman99 » Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:44 pm

TheNextMetsManager wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 5:06 pm
Bob Alpacadaca wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 4:40 pm This is interesting. Support for Mark Kelly -- in the top job.

https://nypost.com/2024/07/22/us-news/t ... -resigned/
consider the source here. These are heavily pro-trump people, as you can tell by the unsourced assertions in the post. Really this is just a hit piece to try to make the Democrats look in disarray. Not that they aren't, but this ain't it.
Seriously, are we treating the NY Post like they're a reputable source of news? Cause they ain't. That rag isn't fit to wipe Bartolo Colon's juicy Hispanic butt
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Re: Biden Dropping Out

Post by MFS62 » Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:48 pm

The New York Times is "All the news that's fit to print".
The NY Post is "All the news that's shit, they print".

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Re: Biden Dropping Out

Post by MFS62 » Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:51 pm

Lefty Specialist wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 6:56 pm She just gave a speech at the campaign headquarters that should send chills down Drumpf's spine. She's going to take it to him in ways Biden was incapable of.
Yes, a DA against a Perp.
And she'll keep using it.
The GOP has fought dirty for years and the Democrats have turned the other cheek.
She going to fight back.
No wonder the groundswell of support she's received in the last 24 hours.
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Re: Biden Dropping Out

Post by Lefty Specialist » Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:42 pm

A lot of this is palpable relief that they finally resolved things. The cash spigot opened; $90 million in small donors in 24 hours, and the big PAC donors have opened their wallets again.

What's interesting is that the Trump people appeared to be caught flatfooted. Trump was still attacking Biden on Sunday night.

Kamala is consolidating things (despite what the Post says) and she'll go into a supercharged convention. 106 days is an eternity in politics, though. It's only a week since Trump supposedly wrapped up the election by getting his ear grazed. Strap in, it's going to get bumpy.
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Re: Biden Dropping Out

Post by kcmets » Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:47 pm

Trump called Harris dumb as a rock today. His crowd roared.

Business as usual for Orange Jesus.
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Re: Biden Dropping Out

Post by Lefty Specialist » Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:22 am

kcmets wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:47 pm Trump called Harris dumb as a rock today. His crowd roared.

Business as usual for Orange Jesus.
Ha. Let him debate her and we'll find out how dumb she is. (He's already trying to weasel out of it, saying it should be on Fox instead of ABC)

All she has to do is say the truth, about him, his plans, and his Project 2025. Hammer it home repeatedly. Go on Jimmy Kimmel. Do TikToks. Trump found that free media is the best kind. Kamala's the shiny new object now. She needs to be everywhere and on message.

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Re: Biden Dropping Out

Post by MFS62 » Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:31 am

She already has enough delegates to clinch the nomination at the convention. The party had a solid plan in place and they implemented it efficiently.
The Pumpkin Perineum is crapping in his Depends over a prospect of facing her in a debate.

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Re: Biden Dropping Out

Post by nymr83 » Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:41 am

Lefty Specialist wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:22 am
kcmets wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:47 pm Trump called Harris dumb as a rock today. His crowd roared.

Business as usual for Orange Jesus.
Ha. Let him debate her and we'll find out how dumb she is. (He's already trying to weasel out of it, saying it should be on Fox instead of ABC)

All she has to do is say the truth, about him, his plans, and his Project 2025. Hammer it home repeatedly. Go on Jimmy Kimmel. Do TikToks. Trump found that free media is the best kind. Kamala's the shiny new object now. She needs to be everywhere and on message.

Donald Trump is dangerous. To democracy, to our rights, to the country, to the world. Hammer it home.
The Biden strategy was to hide from unscripted speaking and another debate would have been a disaster. Harris should offer to debate Trump weekly, heck daily! Polling is limited but the pundits have her as a slight underdog - the more she gets to attack him in front of voter eyeballs the better it will be for her.
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Re: Biden Dropping Out

Post by TheNextMetsManager » Tue Jul 23, 2024 10:52 am

nymr83 wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:41 am
The Biden strategy was to hide from unscripted speaking and another debate would have been a disaster. Harris should offer to debate Trump weekly, heck daily! Polling is limited but the pundits have her as a slight underdog - the more she gets to attack him in front of voter eyeballs the better it will be for her.
god forbid these people do their jobs and enact improvements and legislation and all that jazz, no, it's the TV shows and performing for the media, that's what's important. I contend the last debate swayed ZERO actual voters. If you'd held the election the day before and the day after, they'd have been identical.
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Re: Biden Dropping Out

Post by whippoorwill » Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:48 am

It’s sad that politics has become entertainment instead of something we all have to consider seriously and carefully
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Post by Lefty Specialist » Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:52 am

Biden was shown internal polling that had him losing New Mexico, Minnesota, Virginia and New Hampshire. It showed him up in NJ by only 2 points. (Yes, polls, shmolls, yada,yada,yada.)

The fear wasn't that Republicans would have added voters. The fear was that Democrats would stay home. And by doing that drag down everybody downballot.

Can't really fault the Biden-Harris administration for what they did the last 3 1/2 years. They got a lot done despite a divided/sometimes hostile Congress and Supreme Court.

To really get stuff done there needs to be unambiguous majorities in both houses, pulled up by a strong candidate with a strong message at the top. Democrats spent 3 1/2 weeks eating their own, but now everybody's singing from the same sheet of music. If Kamala can get votes by singing 'Meet the Mets', I'll be there on the Hammond organ for her. Whatever it takes in this crazy, mixed-up, shook-up world.
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Re: Biden Dropping Out

Post by TheNextMetsManager » Tue Jul 23, 2024 2:17 pm

Lefty Specialist wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:52 am Biden was shown internal polling that had him losing New Mexico, Minnesota, Virginia and New Hampshire. It showed him up in NJ by only 2 points. (Yes, polls, shmolls, yada,yada,yada.)

The fear wasn't that Republicans would have added voters. The fear was that Democrats would stay home. And by doing that drag down everybody downballot.

Can't really fault the Biden-Harris administration for what they did the last 3 1/2 years. They got a lot done despite a divided/sometimes hostile Congress and Supreme Court.

To really get stuff done there needs to be unambiguous majorities in both houses, pulled up by a strong candidate with a strong message at the top. Democrats spent 3 1/2 weeks eating their own, but now everybody's singing from the same sheet of music. If Kamala can get votes by singing 'Meet the Mets', I'll be there on the Hammond organ for her. Whatever it takes in this crazy, mixed-up, shook-up world.
money. money money money.

Just imagine they gave a mere inch in response to young people protesting. Young people vehemently anti-fascist. Young people that are newly eligible to vote. But some big money poll funneled through a lobbyists think tank draws a downward sloping red line on a graphic and they panic.

Just look at the response since. It's not "people are excited to vote for Kamala!" It's "MONEY LOOK AT ALL THE MONEY".
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Post by Lefty Specialist » Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:35 pm

And what would 'giving an inch' look like exactly?
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Re: Biden Dropping Out

Post by TheNextMetsManager » Tue Jul 23, 2024 11:49 pm

Lefty Specialist wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:35 pm And what would 'giving an inch' look like exactly?
just a wee less genocidal support maybe?
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Re: Biden Dropping Out

Post by Lefty Specialist » Wed Jul 24, 2024 7:40 am

So, reduce/stop shipping weapons to Israel. Won't stop what they're doing and will piss off a significant section of the populace, ones who vote more often than tent-dwelling protesters. I'm not saying the protesters are wrong- they aren't. But there are competing interest groups here and there's an election to win. Sometimes politics sucks.

Bibi's in Washington and most Democrats will boycott his speech before a joint session of Congress today. VP Harris has 'other commitments'. And Biden hasn't confirmed he'll meet with him at all since he was invited by Republicans (and Trump will happily meet with him). Biden's people have been working tirelessly to get a ceasefire but it's like telling Trump he can't wear orange makeup.
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Post by MFS62 » Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:35 pm

Biden dropping out hurt a company. Some humor.
(USA Today via Yahoo)
I’ve been proud to run the only non-woke Midwestern “F— Joe Biden” flag-making company that also manufactures “Say Good Night, Sleepy Joe” fleece blankets and “It’s All Joever This November! MAGA 2024!” wind socks. And now I come to find out Sleepy Joe is standing down and Vice President Kamala Harris will likely be Trump’s opponent?
WHAT THE HECK AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THE 20,000 “F— JOE BIDEN” FLAGS I ALREADY HAD PRINTED?!?
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Post by Bob Alpacadaca » Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:53 pm

When the New York Post said this last week, you guys said "That Post piece is a hit job. No confirmed sources, just innuendo from unnamed 'operatives'. This is just made-up bullshit." But the New York Times uses unnamed sources - and a very vague one at that -- to make the very same point about the easy way or the hard way, and it's OK?
Even as Mr. Biden was becoming “increasingly resentful” of what he viewed as the “orchestrated campaign” against him, as The Times reported, she kept working methodically behind the scenes, talking to lawmakers, members of her old leadership team and her large network of donors, who slowly and steadily kept piling on. Before Mr. Biden ultimately threw in the towel last weekend, his team was bracing for what she might do next, Politico reported, with a quote that made this grandmother of 10 sound a bit like Don Corleone.

“Nancy made clear that they could do this the easy way or the hard way,” a Democrat familiar with the conversations told the publication. “She gave them three weeks of the easy way. It was about to be the hard way.” As one Democratic strategist told The Hill, referencing the president’s statement that it would take “the Lord Almighty” to make him withdraw his re-election bid: “Once she weighs in, it’s done. He wanted the Lord Almighty. Well, this is the Lord Almighty.”
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Re: Biden Dropping Out

Post by Edgy MD » Wed Jul 24, 2024 2:21 pm

Well, the two articles don't say really say the same thing.

Nor, when they do make similar assertions, are they made with the same innuendo.
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Re: Biden Dropping Out

Post by TransMonk » Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:10 pm

What's Joe Biden up to these days?

Russia releases US reporter Evan Gershkovich and Paul Whelan in massive prisoner swap

Reports are that he was negotiating parts of the release just hours before he announced his dropout.
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Thu Aug 01, 2024 1:47 pm

TransMonk wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:10 pm What's Joe Biden up to these days?

Russia releases US reporter Evan Gershkovich and Paul Whelan in massive prisoner swap

Reports are that he was negotiating parts of the release just hours before he announced his dropout.
Old Truth Social media post from the orange psychopath:
[Gershkovich] will be released almost immediately after the Election, but definitely before I assume Office. He will be HOME, SAFE, AND WITH HIS FAMILY. Vladimir Putin, President of Russia, would do that for me, but not for anyone else, and WE WILL BE PAYING NOTHING!
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Re: Biden Dropping Out

Post by Benjamin Grimm » Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:13 pm

In other words, "The evil guy loves me!"
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Re: Biden Dropping Out

Post by nymr83 » Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:27 pm

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:13 pm In other words, "The evil guy loves me!"
Well, Trump isn't wrong... Putin didn't do it for "nothing" and perhaps for Trump he would have done for "nothing"*

*Nothing publicly admitted to, that is.
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