Trade Deadline

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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by Edgy MD » Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:04 pm

Gwreck wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:26 pm
Edgy MD wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:14 pmI believe in the Mets I got.
Nice sentiment, but the Mets have 9 playoff appearances in their 63 seasons of existence. It’s long past time to upgrade the team given that these chances don’t come around very much. Go get Flaherty and Tanner Scott.
Well, the Mets probably won't be using any of their 1994 players down the stretch.
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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by Cowtipper » Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:05 pm

Bringing Blackburn on reminds me of when they brought on Dave Williams in 2006 to "improve the team."
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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by Gwreck » Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:10 pm

Edgy MD wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:04 pmWell, the Mets probably won't be using any of their 1994 players down the stretch.
What does this even mean? Serious question.
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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by MFS62 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:10 pm

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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by batmagadanleadoff » Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:13 pm

Gwreck wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:10 pm
Edgy MD wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:04 pmWell, the Mets probably won't be using any of their 1994 players down the stretch.
What does this even mean? Serious question.
It means that the Mets 2024 post-season hopes have nothing to do with what the Mets did in 1994 or what they did in just about any other past season.
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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by Gwreck » Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:13 pm

It’s unclear how exactly Blackburn would be an upgrade over Tylor Megill, let alone David Peterson.
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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by batmagadanleadoff » Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:15 pm

Gwreck wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:13 pm It’s unclear how exactly Blackburn would be an upgrade over Tylor Megill, let alone David Peterson.
Maybe the upgrade is Butto. Ask Rose and Gelbs.
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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by Edgy MD » Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:16 pm

Gwreck wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:10 pm
Edgy MD wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:04 pmWell, the Mets probably won't be using any of their 1994 players down the stretch.
What does this even mean? Serious question.
I mean to suggest that recounting failed outcomes from past years isn't particularly instructive to what is the wisest move to do today. Not to me, anyhow. That's water over the dam, under the bridge, down the toilet, and passed on through other places water goes to.

It would be more relevant, perhaps, if we compared the decisions they made in past years — along with those moves' outcomes and ultimate impacts — to decisions they may or may not make in 2024.
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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by batmagadanleadoff » Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:17 pm

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:15 pm
Gwreck wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:13 pm It’s unclear how exactly Blackburn would be an upgrade over Tylor Megill, let alone David Peterson.
Maybe the upgrade is Butto. Ask Rose and Gelbs.
Or maybe the Mets make another acquisition.

TBD
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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by MFS62 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:21 pm

Yes, it appears that Blackburn may be a Houser replacement (in terms of how he will be used) more than anything else.
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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by Cowtipper » Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:26 pm

They are surrendering 2023 third round pick Kade Morris for Blackburn.
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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by ashie62 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:26 pm

Blackburn is light out when healthy

Good get

Yeah!

Good Severino Manaea Peterson insurance
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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by Gwreck » Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:29 pm

Edgy MD wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:16 pm
Gwreck wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:10 pm
Edgy MD wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:04 pmWell, the Mets probably won't be using any of their 1994 players down the stretch.
What does this even mean? Serious question.
I mean to suggest that recounting failed outcomes from past years isn't particularly instructive to what is the wisest move to do today. Not to me, anyhow. That's water over the dam, under the bridge, down the toilet, and passed on through other places water goes to.

It would be more relevant, perhaps, if we compared the decisions they made in past years — along with those moves' outcomes and ultimate impacts — to decisions they may or may not make in 2024.
Ok, sure. There’s a few books that could be (have been?) written about that history. But given that history, you don’t think there’s at least some added imperative to try to win in years when they’re already set up for the potential success, as evidenced by actual concrete wins?
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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by Cowtipper » Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:31 pm

Blackburn has been in the majors since 2017 and has never pitched more than 111 1/3 innings in a season. Career 4.83 ERA. 84 ERA+.

Dud trade.

This is like 2021, when they did half steps in bringing on Rich Hill and ended up going from a winning team to a team with a losing record.
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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by Edgy MD » Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:38 pm

Gwreck wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:29 pm Ok, sure. There’s a few books that could be (have been?) written about that history. But given that history, you don’t think there’s at least some added imperative to try to win in years when they’re already set up for the potential success, as evidenced by actual concrete wins?
Sure, I just don't feel that making trades and trying to win necessarily equate. In the short term or the long term.

I think it seems that way, and it's painted that way for us a lot of times, but restraint has been the better move once or twice too.
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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by Cowtipper » Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:45 pm

Now they're getting Tyler Zuber! Oh wow, another HUGE deal!
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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by ashie62 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:51 pm

You can never have enough arms
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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by smg58 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:13 pm

Underwhelmed so far. Flaherty is still out there though, along with a couple of relievers who might actually make a difference.
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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by Cowtipper » Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:14 pm

45 minutes left!
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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by Edgy MD » Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:20 pm

Why would we conclude that, out of five or so new relievers, none of them will make a difference?
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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by Johnny Lunchbucket » Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:33 pm

Tyler Zuber sounds awesome
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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by MFS62 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:42 pm

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:33 pm Tyler Zuber sounds awesome
But I think Gervase will turn out to be something special:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/regi ... rvas000pau

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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by ashie62 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:45 pm

Mets acquire RP Huascar Brazoban from the Marlins

He should make a difference
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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by MFS62 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:52 pm

ashie62 wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:45 pm Mets acquire RP Huascar Brazoban from the Marlins

He should make a difference
In exchange for ?
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Re: Trade Deadline

Post by smg58 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:56 pm

MFS62 wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:52 pm
ashie62 wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:45 pm Mets acquire RP Huascar Brazoban from the Marlins

He should make a difference
In exchange for ?
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Wilfredo Lara, our #22 prospect.

I like this move.
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