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Post by Frayed Knot » Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:59 pm

... love was changin' the minds of pretenders. While chasin' the clouds away

It would help if we could make some hay vs Boston (Sept 2nd, 3rd, 4th), Reds (x 3), and Jays (x3) because, after that,
we get Phillies (x3) Nationals (x3), Phillies (x4), Braves (x3), and Brewers (x3) to close out the season.
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Re: September

Post by Fman99 » Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:15 am

Braves losing in extra innings yesterday puts the Metsies just a game behind them in the wild card race. Let's go !
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Re: September

Post by Centerfield » Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:36 am

The Brewers will have clinched by that final series. Hopefully they put out a scrub team. Although I wonder if teams are subscribing to the “stay sharp” theory now that the post season is so drawn out.
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Re: September

Post by Gwreck » Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:58 am

25 games to go. 15 wins (including 2 of 3 against Atlanta) shoukd probably do it, right?
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Re: September

Post by Benjamin Grimm » Tue Sep 03, 2024 3:03 pm

The Mets have the tie-breaker advantage over the Padres and Diamondbacks, which could come in handy. They're currently 5-5 against the Braves with a three-game series coming up. Taking two of those three games could prove critical. The games will be in Atlanta, beginning September 24. I can't help but think of late September/early October 2022, when the Mets only had to take one of three to get that same advantage but couldn't.
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Re: September

Post by Fman99 » Tue Sep 03, 2024 3:18 pm

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 3:03 pm The Mets have the tie-breaker advantage over the Padres and Diamondbacks, which could come in handy. They're currently 5-5 against the Braves with a three-game series coming up. Taking two of those three games could prove critical. The games will be in Atlanta, beginning September 24. I can't help but think of late September/early October 2022, when the Mets only had to take one of three to get that same advantage but couldn't.
Yeah I think any Met fan more than 23 months old would remember that series with a white hot hatred.
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Re: September

Post by Edgy MD » Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:35 pm

The table below is highly speculative, based on the notion that all teams will stay within the sequence of pitchers they currently are on, giving guys an extra day if there is a day off, rather than skip a weaker guy.

That notion is hardly reliable. Cincinnati's rotation is a mess — with Hunter Greene and Andrew Abbott both currently out — and they haven't announced any starters at all for the Mets series, taking it day to day. Toronto has both Monday and Thursday off in the same week, so they could easily move guys around, and by the time the Mets face Atlanta, if the Braves have a playoff berth on the line, they'd be fools not to juggle things to get Max Fried in there instead of Schwellenbach or Morton. (The Mets are already using today's day off to skip Quintana this time through the rotation.)

But this is how it sort of looks right now from this perspective, and we can make adjustments going forward.

The Mets rotation order for now is MANAEA-SEVERINO-PETERSON-MEGILL-QUINTANA. Or MSPMQ. Or May Sovereignty Persist, My Queen!

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DayDateOpp.StarterOpp. StarterScore
Sunday1@CWSSean Manaea (L)Garrett Crochet (L)W, 2–0
Monday2vs. BOSLuís Severino (R)Brayan Bello (R)W, 4–1
Tuesday3vs. BOSDavid Peterson (L)Kutter Crawford (R)W, 7–2
Wednesday4vs. BOSTylor Megill (R)Tanner Houck (R)W, 8–3
Thursday5
Friday6vs. CINSean Manaea (L)Brandon Williamson (L)
Saturday7vs. CINLuís Severino (R)Jakob Junis (R)
Sunday8vs. CINDavid Peterson (L)Julian Aguilar (R)
Monday9@TORTylor Megill (R)Chris Bassitt (R)
Tuesday10@TORJosé Quintana (L)Bowden Francis (R)
Wednesday11@TORSean Manaea (L)Kevin Gausman (R)
Thursday12
Friday13@PHILuís Severino (R)Aaron Nola (R)
Saturday14@PHIDavid Peterson (L)Taijuan Walker ®
Sunday15@PHITylor Megill (R)Christopher. Sanchez (L)
Monday16vs. WASJosé Quintana (L)Jake Irvin (R)
Tuesday17vs. WASSean Manaea (L)DJ Herz (L)
Wednesday18vs. WASLuís Severino (R)Mitchell Parker (L)
Thursday19vs. PHIDavid Peterson (L)Taijuan Walker (R)
Friday20vs. PHITylor Megill (R)Christopher. Sanchez (L)
Saturday21vs. PHIJosé Quintana (L)Ranger Suárez (L)
Sunday22vs. PHISean Manaea (L)Zack Wheeler (R)
Monday23
Tuesday24@ATLLuís Severino (R)Spencer Schwellenbach ®
Wednesday25@ATLDavid Peterson (L)Chris Sale (L)
Thursday26@ATLTylor Megill (R)Charlie Morton (R)
Friday27@MILJosé Quintana (L)Colin Rea (R)
Saturday28@MILSean Manaea (L)Frankie Montas (R)
Sunday29@MILLuís Severino (R)Tobias Myers (R)
Monday30
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Re: September

Post by Gwreck » Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:02 pm

I saw Quintana listed as probable for Saturday. He’s being skipped?

I saw that DiComo is reporting that Blackburn returns to the rotation in Toronto (with Megill back to Syracuse).
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Re: September

Post by Edgy MD » Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:08 pm

Well, I had him skipped for Friday, but if that means bumping him to Saturday, and not just jumping over him, then shut my mouth.

How embarrassing to try to figure out the Braves starters at the end of the month and I can't even get this weekend's Mets starters right.

OE: Try this 'un.
DayDateOpp.StarterOpp. StarterScore
Sunday1@CWSSean Manaea (L)Garrett Crochet (L)W, 2–0
Monday2vs. BOSLuís Severino (R)Brayan Bello (R)W, 4–1
Tuesday3vs. BOSDavid Peterson (L)Kutter Crawford (R)W, 7–2
Wednesday4vs. BOSTylor Megill (R)Tanner Houck (R)W, 8–3
Thursday5
Friday6vs. CINSean Manaea (L)Brandon Williamson (L)
Saturday7vs. CINJosé Quintana (L)Jakob Junis (R)
Sunday8vs. CINLuís Severino (R)Julian Aguilar (R)
Monday9@TORDavid Peterson (L)Chris Bassitt (R)
Tuesday10@TORTylor Megill (R)Bowden Francis (R)
Wednesday11@TORSean Manaea (L)Kevin Gausman (R)
Thursday12
Friday13@PHILuís Severino (R)Aaron Nola (R)
Saturday14@PHIDavid Peterson (L)Taijuan Walker ®
Sunday15@PHITylor Megill (R)Christopher. Sanchez (L)
Monday16vs. WASJosé Quintana (L)Jake Irvin (R)
Tuesday17vs. WASSean Manaea (L)DJ Herz (L)
Wednesday18vs. WASLuís Severino (R)Mitchell Parker (L)
Thursday19vs. PHIDavid Peterson (L)Taijuan Walker (R)
Friday20vs. PHITylor Megill (R)Christopher. Sanchez (L)
Saturday21vs. PHIJosé Quintana (L)Ranger Suárez (L)
Sunday22vs. PHISean Manaea (L)Zack Wheeler (R)
Monday23
Tuesday24@ATLLuís Severino (R)Spencer Schwellenbach ®
Wednesday25@ATLDavid Peterson (L)Chris Sale (L)
Thursday26@ATLTylor Megill (R)Charlie Morton (R)
Friday27@MILJosé Quintana (L)Colin Rea (R)
Saturday28@MILSean Manaea (L)Frankie Montas (R)
Sunday29@MILLuís Severino (R)Tobias Myers (R)
Monday30
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Re: September

Post by G-Fafif » Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:19 pm

Paul Blackburn exists.
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Re: September

Post by Edgy MD » Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:19 pm

Indeed he does, and he may well yet reclaim his role in the rotation.

It's a moving target, subject to edits as new information becomes available.
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Re: September

Post by G-Fafif » Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:37 pm

Braves lose as Blackburn heals.
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Re: September

Post by Gwreck » Fri Sep 06, 2024 10:30 am

It occurs to me that the Mets could do a little roster arbitrage and have Megill start one game in Toronto, immediately get sent down, and have Blackburn start the next one.

Gives everyone an extra day, and pushes Manaea to the Atlanta series.
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Re: September

Post by Benjamin Grimm » Fri Sep 06, 2024 10:32 am

When can Senga be activated? I wonder if he can be an opener for the third game in Atlanta?

And yeah, Megill going twice against the Phillies and once against the Braves isn't really ideal.
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Re: September

Post by Gwreck » Fri Sep 06, 2024 10:38 am

I’m quite sure Megill is being sent down for Blackburn. The only question is whether Megill starts one more game in Toronto or not.

Senga is eligible to be activated 9/25. It would be a bold move to start him in Atlanta but I kind of like the opener idea.
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Re: September

Post by MFS62 » Fri Sep 06, 2024 11:37 am

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 10:32 am And yeah, Megill going twice against the Phillies and once against the Braves isn't really ideal.
You are the master of the understatement.
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Re: September

Post by Edgy MD » Sat Sep 07, 2024 2:20 pm

A couple of notes.

1) Paul Blackburn is announced as the scheduled starter to go in the opener of the Toronto series, so he's been added there and every fifth game thereafter, taking Tylor Megill's rotation slot.

2) PhillY has a rotation hole, where Tyler Phillips had been trying to hold down a slot. Phillips has recently been pummeled and that turn comes up again tomorrow and is now being given to Seth Johnson, something of a minor-league journeyman making his first big-league start. If he holds down that job, the Mets will see him in both upcoming series, and that's what it says below, but the Phils have a day off before the first Mets series, and using that day to skip him would mean the Mets won't see him at all. If Philadelphia is feeling at all threatened by a Mets charge, that's probably what we should be expecting.

3) The Nats are stacked with lefthanded starters, and we'll likely be seeing at least two of them, and neither (as we now sit) is likely to be named MacKenzie Gore.

4) The Mets also are not lined up to catch Max Fried in the Atlanta series. I also think that might be switched up late if the Braves are desperate or threatened.

5) I miss McNoodles already.

DayDateOpp.StarterOpp. StarterScore
Sunday1@CWSSean Manaea (L)Garrett Crochet (L)W, 2–0
Monday2vs. BOSLuís Severino (R)Brayan Bello (R)W, 4–1
Tuesday3vs. BOSDavid Peterson (L)Kutter Crawford (R)W, 7–2
Wednesday4vs. BOSTylor Megill (R)Tanner Houck (R)W, 8–3
Thursday5
Friday6vs. CINSean Manaea (L)Brandon Williamson (L)W, 6–4
Saturday7vs. CINJosé Quintana (L)Jakob Junis (R)
Sunday8vs. CINLuís Severino (R)Julian Aguilar (R)
Monday9@TORPaul Blackburn (R)Chris Bassitt (R)
Tuesday10@TORDavid Peterson (L)Bowden Francis (R)
Wednesday11@TORSean Manaea (L)Kevin Gausman (R)
Thursday12
Friday13@PHILuís Severino (R)Aaron Nola (R)
Saturday14@PHIDavid Peterson (L)Seth Johnson (R)
Sunday15@PHIPaul Blackburn (R)Christopher Sánchez (L)
Monday16vs. WASJosé Quintana (L)Jake Irvin (R)
Tuesday17vs. WASSean Manaea (L)DJ Herz (L)
Wednesday18vs. WASLuís Severino (R)Mitchell Parker (L)
Thursday19vs. PHIDavid Peterson (L)Seth Johnson (R)
Friday20vs. PHIPaul Blackburn (R)Christopher Sánchez (L)
Saturday21vs. PHIJosé Quintana (L)Ranger Suarez (L)
Sunday22vs. PHISean Manaea (L)Zach Wheeler (R)
Monday23
Tuesday24@ATLLuís Severino (R)Spencer Schwellenbach (R)
Wednesday25@ATLDavid Peterson (L)Chris Sale (L)
Thursday26@ATLPaul Blackburn (R)Charlie Morton (R)
Friday27@MILJosé Quintana (L)Colin Rea (R)
Saturday28@MILSean Manaea (L)Frankie Montas (R)
Sunday29@MILLuís Severino (R)Tobias Myers (R)
Monday30
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Re: September

Post by ashie62 » Sat Sep 07, 2024 3:01 pm

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 10:32 am When can Senga be activated? I wonder if he can be an opener for the third game in Atlanta?

And yeah, Megill going twice against the Phillies and once against the Braves isn't really ideal.
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Re: September

Post by Fman99 » Mon Sep 09, 2024 6:04 am

Getting down to crunch time here.

SD 81-64 (17 games remaining)
ARI 80-64 (18 games remaining)
ATL 78-65 (19 games remaining)
NYM 78-65 (19 games remaining)
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Re: September

Post by metirish » Mon Sep 09, 2024 8:01 am

Squeaky bum time
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Re: September

Post by Edgy MD » Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:27 am

Well, the Mets built up a one game pad, which is good, because as soon as the winning streak ended, the pad was spent, but we still wake up this morning in the money, albeit tied.

Coming into play now is the head-to-head record of the Mets and Braves, which is currently tied at five games apiece, making their upcoming series doubly dramatic.

No teams have demonstrated or announced a change to their rotations as of this morning, but ... Phillies debutante Seth Johnson got absolutely pummeled by the Marlins yesterday, seemingly increasing the likelihood that the Phillies use the off day Thursday to push him back in the rotation, giving them the chance to keep him (or another fill-in starter) out of both Mets' series.

DayDateOpp.StarterOpp. StarterScoreDiv. GBWC1 GBWC2 GBWC3 GB
Sunday1@CWSSean Manaea (L)Garrett Crochet (L)W, 2–08.01.04.04.0
Monday2vs. BOSLuís Severino (R)Brayan Bello (R)W, 4–17.50.53.04.0
Tuesday3vs. BOSDavid Peterson (L)Kutter Crawford (R)W, 7–27.50.53.03.5
Wednesday4vs. BOSTylor Megill (R)Tanner Houck (R)W, 8–37.50.53.03.5
Thursday58.00.02.53.0
Friday6vs. CINSean Manaea (L)Brandon Williamson (L)W, 6–48.00.01.53.0
Saturday7vs. CINJosé Quintana (L)Jakob Junis (R)W, 4-07.0+1.00.52.0
Sunday8vs. CINLuís Severino (R)Julian Aguilar (R)L, 3-17.00.01.52.0
SQUEAKYBUTTTIME🐭( | )
Monday9@TORPaul Blackburn (R)Chris Bassitt (R)
Tuesday10@TORDavid Peterson (L)Bowden Francis (R)
Wednesday11@TORSean Manaea (L)Kevin Gausman (R)
Thursday12
Friday13@PHILuís Severino (R)Aaron Nola (R)
Saturday14@PHIDavid Peterson (L)Seth Johnson (R)
Sunday15@PHIPaul Blackburn (R)Christopher Sánchez (L)
Monday16vs. WASJosé Quintana (L)Jake Irvin (R)
Tuesday17vs. WASSean Manaea (L)DJ Herz (L)
Wednesday18vs. WASLuís Severino (R)Mitchell Parker (L)
Thursday19vs. PHIDavid Peterson (L)Seth Johnson (R)
Friday20vs. PHIPaul Blackburn (R)Christopher Sánchez (L)
Saturday21vs. PHIJosé Quintana (L)Ranger Suarez (L)
Sunday22vs. PHISean Manaea (L)Zach Wheeler (R)
Monday23
Tuesday24@ATLLuís Severino (R)Spencer Schwellenbach (R)
Wednesday25@ATLDavid Peterson (L)Chris Sale (L)
Thursday26@ATLPaul Blackburn (R)Charlie Morton (R)
Friday27@MILJosé Quintana (L)Colin Rea (R)
Saturday28@MILSean Manaea (L)Frankie Montas (R)
Sunday29@MILLuís Severino (R)Tobias Myers (R)
Monday30
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Re: September

Post by Gwreck » Mon Sep 09, 2024 11:16 am

Edgy MD wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:27 amNo teams have demonstrated or announced a change to their rotations as of this morning
Spoke too soon. Mets just announced that Megill, not Blackburn, is starting tonight. Maybe this is just a way to get everyone an extra day (and better align the rotation).
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Re: September

Post by batmagadanleadoff » Mon Sep 09, 2024 11:25 am

Gwreck wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 11:16 am
Edgy MD wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:27 amNo teams have demonstrated or announced a change to their rotations as of this morning
Spoke too soon. Mets just announced that Megill, not Blackburn, is starting tonight. Maybe this is just a way to get everyone an extra day (and better align the rotation).
Jeez. Did youse actually think that that chart was gonna hold for more than three or four days? Plotting out the pitching rotations for like half the league for about a month out.

Madness.
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Re: September

Post by rchurch314 » Mon Sep 09, 2024 11:41 am

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 11:25 am
Gwreck wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 11:16 am
Edgy MD wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:27 amNo teams have demonstrated or announced a change to their rotations as of this morning
Spoke too soon. Mets just announced that Megill, not Blackburn, is starting tonight. Maybe this is just a way to get everyone an extra day (and better align the rotation).
Jeez. Did youse actually think that that chart was gonna hold for more than three or four days? Plotting out the pitching rotations for like half the league for about a month out.

Madness.

I was kind a hoping to see an expected reliever usage for each day too.
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Re: September

Post by Edgy MD » Mon Sep 09, 2024 11:42 am

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 11:25 amJeez. Did youse actually think that that chart was gonna hold for more than three or four days? Plotting out the pitching rotations for like half the league for about a month out.

Madness.
No, I didn't. And I wrote that up front.

I couldn't have been clearer.
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