The White Sox' season/streak deserves its own thread

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Post by G-Fafif » Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:07 pm

1962 Mets 40-120 --
2024 CHW 39-121 1
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Re: The White Sox' season/streak deserves its own thread

Post by G-Fafif » Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:17 pm

“I never thought that this would be broken while I was still around,” said 86-year-old Craig Anderson, a member of those 1962 Mets. “For the Mets fans, it’s off your shoulders. Now, we’re not the worst in the world.”
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Re: The White Sox' season/streak deserves its own thread

Post by batmagadanleadoff » Sat Sep 28, 2024 12:35 am

Craig Anderson wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:17 pm “I never thought that this would be broken while I was still around,” said 86-year-old Craig Anderson, a member of those 1962 Mets. “For the Mets fans, it’s off your shoulders. Now, we’re not the worst in the world.”
I dunno. Should the White Sox win their last two games, they'd finish with a better record than the '62 Mets.
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Post by G-Fafif » Sat Sep 28, 2024 6:39 pm

After 161 games played:

1962 NYM 40-120-1 —
2024 CHW 40-121-0 1/2
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Re: The White Sox' season/streak deserves its own thread

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batmagadanleadoff wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 12:35 am
Craig Anderson wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:17 pm “I never thought that this would be broken while I was still around,” said 86-year-old Craig Anderson, a member of those 1962 Mets. “For the Mets fans, it’s off your shoulders. Now, we’re not the worst in the world.”
I dunno. Should the White Sox win their last two games, they'd finish with a better record than the '62 Mets.
Which they did.

2024 White Sox 41-121 (.253)
1962 Mets 40-120 (.250)

But now go try and tell baseball's mouth-breathers that the '62 Mets were better.

"But the Sox lost 121 games. That's worse".

But couldn't I, just the same, say that the Sox won 41 games and that 41 wins is better than 40 wins?"

"But 121 losses is worse than 120 losses."
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Post by G-Fafif » Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:54 pm

2024 41-121 White Sox: Most losses.
1962 40-120 Mets: Lower winning percentage.
1916 36-117 A’s: We REALLY sucked.
1935 38-115 Braves: Us too.
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Post by Edgy MD » Sun Sep 29, 2024 10:25 pm

1962 Mets: "We were an expansion team built mostly from a draft that was kind of designed to screw expansion teams kind of bad. Plus our GM was more interested in getting famous names to sell at the box office than in building a talent base."

2024 White Sox: "We had an unprecedented amount of injuries."

1962 Mets: "Dude, everybody has injuries."

2024 White Sox: "Yeah, well, every sucky team has a GM with his head up his ass. We had, like, a lot of injuries."

1962 Mets: "Dude ... ."

2024 White Sox: "That's our story, Expansion Boy. What's the A's' excuse?"

1916 A’s: "Dude, there was a war going on."

1962 Mets: "Well, we can see that, but shouldn't ... ."

1935 Braves: "Us too! War! Screwed us up real bad."

1916 A’s: "Where?"

1935 Braves: "Italy invaded Ethiopia. 1935. Look it up."

1962 Mets: ((eyeroll))
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Post by Marshmallowmilkshake » Sun Sep 29, 2024 10:43 pm

G-Fafif wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:54 pm 2024 41-121 White Sox: Most losses.
1962 40-120 Mets: Lower winning percentage.
1916 36-117 A’s: We REALLY sucked.
1935 38-115 Braves: Us too.

Don't forget the 2003 Tigers: 43-119
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Post by G-Fafif » Sun Sep 29, 2024 10:54 pm

Marshmallowmilkshake wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 10:43 pm
G-Fafif wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:54 pm 2024 41-121 White Sox: Most losses.
1962 40-120 Mets: Lower winning percentage.
1916 36-117 A’s: We REALLY sucked.
1935 38-115 Braves: Us too.

Don't forget the 2003 Tigers: 43-119
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Re: The White Sox' season/streak deserves its own thread

Post by Lefty Specialist » Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:33 am

Point of order, Mr. Speaker.....

The US didn't enter WW1 until April 6, 1917. The 1916 A's had no excuse.

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Post by Edgy MD » Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:06 am

Lefty Specialist wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:33 am Point of order, Mr. Speaker.....

The US didn't enter WW1 until April 6, 1917. The 1916 A's had no excuse.

I yield back my time.

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Re: The White Sox' season/streak deserves its own thread

Post by metirish » Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:45 am

So, for the sake of clarity , have the 1962 Mets been surpassed as the worst ?
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Re: The White Sox' season/streak deserves its own thread

Post by Gwreck » Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:11 am

No. Although the White Sox lost one more, the Mets were still worse.
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Re: The White Sox' season/streak deserves its own thread

Post by metirish » Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:15 am

Interesting, thank you
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Re: The White Sox' season/streak deserves its own thread

Post by Benjamin Grimm » Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:31 am

It really depends on how you define worst, by most losses or by lowest winning percentage? I think at best it's ambiguous.
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Post by metirish » Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:36 am

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:31 am It really depends on how you define worst, by most losses or by lowest winning percentage? I think at best it's ambiguous.


Right , anyway ,I don't think many people will look back on this Sox team in the same way they do with the 1962 Mets
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Re: The White Sox' season/streak deserves its own thread

Post by smg58 » Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:39 am

Lefty Specialist wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:33 am Point of order, Mr. Speaker.....

The US didn't enter WW1 until April 6, 1917. The 1916 A's had no excuse.

I yield back my time.
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Post by smg58 » Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:50 am

There are a couple of things that make it hard to compare the 62 Mets to these White Sox. The Mets were an expansion team where everybody was either too young or too old to be in their prime, playing for a fan base that was thrilled to have a National League team again. The White Sox play in an era where big market teams can always afford to be at least adequate, and somehow they had half the necessary win total to be defined as adequate. It's just not fathomable.
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Post by batmagadanleadoff » Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:31 pm

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:31 am It really depends on how you define worst, by most losses or by lowest winning percentage? I think at best it's ambiguous.
So a team that plays 300 games but loses 122 of them did worse than the '62 Mets?
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Post by Johnny Lunchbucket » Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:45 pm

Yeah the White Sox are the biggest stain on the game however you look at it. Between them and the A's, really embarrassing year for baseball, even with the all the Ohtani stuff.
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Post by MFS62 » Wed Oct 16, 2024 7:00 pm

It should come as no surprise that owner Jerry Reinsdorf (88 yrs old) is thinking of selling the team:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/white-sox- ... 46200.html

He's no Joan Payson who didn't let a little thing like a loss record make her think of selling.
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Re: The White Sox' season/streak deserves its own thread

Post by Centerfield » Wed Oct 16, 2024 7:17 pm

Fewer owners like Reinsdorf is a good thing.

So long as he’s not replaced by someone worse.
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Post by Johnny Lunchbucket » Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:46 am

"His Venability was off the charts!" Jerry Reinsdorf
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Re: The White Sox' season/streak deserves its own thread

Post by Centerfield » Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:33 am

metirish wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:45 am

Why does he not have a top half of his head
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