Post-Season Ticket Prices (Split from "They Can Do This - Again and Again - Game Two Post Season IGT 10/06/24 NYM at PHL")

[MFS62]

My EX-friend Chris is going to MFY stadium , section 528 for $193

I fixed that for you.
Later

[Gwreck]

But I do wonder if a crowd of $500-a-seat fans can bring the same energy as the $30-a-seat Tuesday Night fans

This is the most interesting point in this thread. Crowds were mostly good in 2015 but the prices hadn’t been escalated quite as much back then.

[ashie62]

I've thought that ticket revenue for sports teams is a small percentage of a teams top line total revenue

10% maybe?

Do you what racetracks have done for a long time, you're all in for free, spend some money

[batmagadanleadoff]

I have no idea what the fuss or sour grapes are all about with the ticket prices. If I owned a pizzeria, and customers were willing to pay me $50.00 for one slice of pizza, I'd be charging $50.00 for a slice of pizza in a heartbeat. Isn't that how everything works? Or is everybody supposed to be able to own a Rolls Royce?


What the hell are youse whining about? When people stop paying those prices, those prices will come down.

Newsflash! It also costs a heck of lot more money to sit two rows behind home plate at field level than it does to sit in left field, 475 feet away and 60 feet higher than home plate. Duh.

well the point is that's a lot, a lot more than it was pretty recently, and we don't want to spend that much but want to go.

I'm on your side. So what's the solution? If the Mets gave away the playoff tickets for free, the lucky ticketholders would, in turn, scalp their tickets for the hundreds and hundreds of dollars that the market is willing to pay for. Not all of the ticketholders. Some would hold on to their tickets even if you offered them all the money in the world. But that's besides the point. The point being that if you didn't get a free ticket, you'd have to pay the same superhigh prices to buy a ticket.

[Edgy MD]

New York, not so long ago, had laws prohibiting charging more than 10% above face value for resold tickets.

I imagine the laws became largely unenforceable in the Internet age, but I'm not sure where the notion of scalping being an unseemly and exploitative practice went. I guess I can put it beside commercials for hard alcohol, advertising on uniforms, and gambling in the box of things MLB would seemingly never allow themselves to be associated with, that they now embrace wholeheartedly.

[TransMonk]

On Thursday, September 26th (after the Brewers had clinched, but before they knew who they were playing), I could find Row 1 club level seats for Game 2 in Milwaukee on Stubhub for $90. I don't know if prices and/or availability changed later once the teams were known (I assume so).

Sadly, I wasn't certain that the Mets would be the opponent and I had scheduling conflicts anyway.

[rchurch314]

I don't think the plan holders get that significant of a discount either.

The postseason tickets the Mets offered/made available via my ticket plan are 50-65% cheaper than what they are offering to the general public.

They were really offering them for $90? That's a lot more doable at least.

[Gwreck]

I don't think the plan holders get that significant of a discount either.

The postseason tickets the Mets offered/made available via my ticket plan are 50-65% cheaper than what they are offering to the general public.

They were really offering them for $90? That's a lot more doable at least.

I’ll admit that my tickets are in a slightly better location than the outer sections of the upper deck and thus I can’t tell you what the season/plan holder price on those were.

I did compare the WC/NLDS and NLCS pricing between what I was charged/offered and what was being offered for single-game purchase to the public and that’s what the discount percentage is.

[Gwreck]

Public sale for NLCS started today, with low price of $220 for promenade outfield.

[batmagadanleadoff]

New York, not so long ago, had laws prohibiting charging more than 10% above face value for resold tickets.

I imagine the laws became largely unenforceable in the Internet age, but I'm not sure where the notion of scalping being an unseemly and exploitative practice went. I guess I can put it beside commercials for hard alcohol, advertising on uniforms, and gambling in the box of things MLB would seemingly never allow themselves to be associated with, that they now embrace wholeheartedly.

The issue is not so clear-cut and there are very good arguments to be made on both sides. Some states have no scalping laws whatsoever and a ticket owner in those states is free to do whatever the hell he wants to do with his ticket. There are no Federal laws directly regulating the resale of tickets.

Why shouldn't a ticket-holder be able to scalp his ticket to his heart's delight? Someone who bought a mint condition Mickey Mantle baseball card 60 years ago for a quarter and preserved the card's condition all these years later is free to sell that card for more money than he'd get from selling his house. Anybody who wants to buy Steve Cohen's Mookie/Buckner baseball, assuming Cohen offers it for sale, might have to pay millions of dollars for a ball that was once worth just a few bucks. What's the difference?

[kcmets]

New York, not so long ago, had laws prohibiting charging more than 10% above face value for resold tickets.

MLB partnering with re-sale places like StubHub erased all that.
But you're right. If you didn't want to scalp out at a stadium or a
Broadway show you had to drive to Fort Lee NJ or have an account
with a ticket broker who'd mail you tickets for like often 5X the $$.

[MFS62]

The person selling that Mickey Mantle card he got for 50 cents for, say, $100,000 (A conservative guess) would have to pay up to 20% long term capital gains tax on the difference ($99,999.50).
I'm not sure what the tax considerations are for reselling tickets (possibly at short term rates) if they honestly reported the sale.

Later

[batmagadanleadoff]

The person selling that Mickey Mantle card he got for 50 cents for, say, $100,000 (A conservative guess) would have to pay up to 20% long term capital gains tax on the difference ($99,999.50).
I'm not sure what the tax considerations are for reselling tickets (possibly at short term rates).

But how is that an argument for or against ticket scalping?

[MFS62]

It wasn't meant to be judgmental for or against.
Just something that came to mind.
Later

[Edgy MD]

Why shouldn't a ticket-holder be able to scalp his ticket to his heart's delight?

I don't know, but somewhere along the line, someone decided some markets needed controls, the public had an interest in keeping gouging from becoming too exploitative, and departments of consumer and regulatory affairs were born. Also, the original owner of a commodity — the Mets perhaps — had a right to set resale conditions on commodities such as tickets. With the purchase, you implicitly agreed to abide by certain resale conditions.

Obviously we're going in the opposite direction now, and swinging toward broadening laissez faire free-market policies.

[kcmets]

Obviously, MLB NFL and the like got tired of seeing their product
getting re-sold at a profit and wanted a cut so that's why they em-
braced/partnered with StubHubs and such.

I'm pretty much if people-are-gonna-pay-it then that's what it is...

[batmagadanleadoff]

I always imagined that the Wilpons were secretly scalping unsold Mets tickets on Stubhub and the like for their own personal gain through secret accounts and trusted family members acting as shills.

[batmagadanleadoff]

I always imagined that the Wilpons were secretly scalping unsold Mets tickets on Stubhub and the like for their own personal gain through secret accounts and trusted family members acting as shills.

That's some scam, now that I think about it. They'd make more money because they wouldn't have to share the profits from the "scalped" tickets with the rest of the league.

[Frayed Knot]

That sort of thing went on for years in the NFL where allotments of tickets teams received for the SB mysteriously wound up in bulk in the hands of shady ticket brokers leaving dealing with them often as the only avenue for a regular fan to score one.
I seem to remember Georgia Frontierre being involved in one such scam but don't remember the details and nothing was done about it anyway except maybe to make sure the evidence stayed more hidden in the future.

[rchurch314]

I always imagined that the Wilpons were secretly scalping unsold Mets tickets on Stubhub and the like for their own personal gain through secret accounts and trusted family members acting as shills.

That's some scam, now that I think about it. They'd make more money because they wouldn't have to share the profits from the "scalped" tickets with the rest of the league.

lol, put down the tin foil, the wilpons, and the cohens, and roughly every other MLB owner is doing pretty much the same thing and they don't need to bother with illicit accounts or anything like that. they simply chunk and block sections and sell them in different presales, promotions, etc and then use the dynamic pricing module of their ticket service to $$$$$$$$$$ up the artificial scarcity.

[batmagadanleadoff]

I always imagined that the Wilpons were secretly scalping unsold Mets tickets on Stubhub and the like for their own personal gain through secret accounts and trusted family members acting as shills.

That's some scam, now that I think about it. They'd make more money because they wouldn't have to share the profits from the "scalped" tickets with the rest of the league.

lol, put down the tin foil, the wilpons, and the cohens, and roughly every other MLB owner is doing pretty much the same thing and they don't need to bother with illicit accounts or anything like that. they simply chunk and block sections and sell them in different presales, promotions, etc and then use the dynamic pricing module of their ticket service to $$$$$$$$$$ up the artificial scarcity.

All of the baseball owners are openly skirting baseball's rules to screw the other owners out of their rightful share of ticket sales revenue?

[metirish]

Definitely seeing some crazy prices

[MFS62]

"That's a rip-off, Suzyn".
Later

[Frayed Knot]

Tickets have resin just a bit over the years.
Thanks a lot Kamala!


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[ashie62]

Definitely seeing some crazy prices

If this is a secondary market ticket what would you expect